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Articles for deletion/Sasha Nacevski
Author blanked the page, causing a non-admin closure due to speedy deletion G7. Cheers! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 14:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Dylan's Couch
Please do not delete the Dylan's Couch article. I posted reasons on its talk page. -Keith☺ 15:48, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Ergohuman
Can you give me a reason why its tagged for deletion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Niceday2008 (talk • contribs) 12:08, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly. The article is not encylopedic, and serves no purpose other than to sell chairs. Mayalld (talk) 12:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

The Aeron page does nothing but promote it. Look all im doing is adding content, which bits do you want me to remove. I have a few chairs i want to add (such as the enjoy, the brant, the nefil, the liberty, freedom, contessa and mirra). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.119.7 (talk) 14:28, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Please reply to me as i dont think that this is at all fair. How on earth is it advertising? am i saying "buy now at $xx.xx"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Niceday2008 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not considering other articles, I'm looking at this one. The fact that other poor articles exist isn't a reason for yet another. Wikipedia reflects notability, it doesn't confer it, and this article doesn't demonstrate any notability. It is also seriously unbalanced. It isn't an impartial account of the chair, it is a puff piece, talking it up. Mayalld (talk) 14:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Barbara Allen (singer)
I'm sorry, my friend! I did not mean to attack you in person. I'm sure you are a very friendly and gentle individual. I meant to attack the notability tagging which I thought was unfair. I still think that the article met the notability guidelines.


 * The sources did address the subject directly in detail and no original research was needed to extract the content.
 * The sources was reliable since I appended two references from at least one online encyclopedia.

Anyhow it doesn't matter anymore. Once more, I'm sorry you were offended, I didn't mean any harm! --Popiloll (talk) 09:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Not a problem.
 * Notability tagging means that I am not satisfied that article has proved by means of the references provided that the subject is notable. It makes no value judgement as to whether the subject is, or is not notable. It just says there is more work to be done here. In cases where I am convinced that the subject is not notable, I would immediately tag for deletion.
 * As things stand now,the article has been deleted, not on the grounds of notability, but because you, as the only substantial author, blanked it. If you believe that notability can be established, then we can ask the deleting admin to restore it. Mayalld (talk) 09:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

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two AfD nominations for List of defunct Pennsylvania sports teams
I'm curious why you felt the need to nominate the article twice. Stepheng3 (talk) 14:48, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I suffered a connection glitch, and it looked like it hadn't completed Mayalld (talk) 15:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

The University of Newcastle Chamber Choir
Page is quite different now. Would like to know your comment--Jackevans83 (talk) 11:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Have added sources, would like your comment.--Jackevans83 (talk) 02:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Please read articles before deleting
I posted a new article. It had five links to daily newspapers. HYou obviously deleted it without even looking at it.Elan26 (talk) 12:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Elan26

or, you could just take down the PROD. the error, as I have written, was that I typed reference where I ought to have typed reflist. So the references did not appear. Therefore, you auto-deleted it. Simple mistake, easy to correct without making a lot of other people spend time reading the article.Elan26 (talk) 14:03, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Elan26

I don't know what a bot is, authorized or un-. What I do know is taht I posted a simple article about a ntoable blog, I posted the footnotes wrong, and it got a delete message pasted on it instantly. If you had read it, you would have seen that there were many footnotes and, perhaps, corrected my mistyping that made the many footnotes fail to appear under References. I assume that your posting of this delete tag was in some way automatic, becaue nobody can read that fast. I was not using automatic as a term of art, merely as an assumption by a non-technical person that things that hapen instantly are done by automotons of some sort not by persons.Elan26 (talk) 14:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Elan

Stop being a bully
I wrote you a note. I admit that I was annoyed to see a DELETE tag posted atop an article the instant I posted it. Okay. You didn't DELETE it you proposed it for instant deletion. I speak English, not Wikiese. So I wrote delete, not, well whatever the Wiki-speak work is, because the notice that appeared instantly read Delete. Then I wrote you a note asking you to take down the PROD. There, I'm learning to speak Wiki. Now you are threatening me with blocking? Are you serious? Is this the way Wikipedia works?Elan26 (talk) 14:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Elan26

Perhaps
You could simply merge the little article I wrote into the Education Week page instead of writing angry messages on my talk page.Elan26 (talk) 15:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Elan26


 * That is a matter for the Wikipedia Community over the next 5 days. I note, however that you are continuing to make accusations about my behaviour on the AfD page. Please accept that you broke the rules by making unfounded allegations. You have two ways forward from here;


 * 1) Continue to make a fuss about it, and accuse me of bullying on account of my having legitimately warned you that your personal attacks were not allowed, and risk a block.
 * 2) Move on. Leave the AfD to run its course, cut it out with the accusations and assumptions of bad faith, and delete the warnings from your talk page, and nobody will care about it by next week.
 * Your choice to make. Mayalld (talk) 15:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Livemercial
Hi. Just wondering if it may not be best to keep the "gentleman"'s comments on the AfD so the record is maintained of their actions for future people in case the whole thing pops up again. Jasynnash2 (talk) 15:29, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Done! If my restoration, and comment are wide of the mark, please feel free to amend Mayalld (talk) 15:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me and thanks Jasynnash2 (talk) 15:40, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

EDITING YOU PAGE
You where wrong when you deleted my article HOWEVER i was wrong when i edited your page with a threat, well i am sorry for editing with a threat but you should not have binned by valid article Jamez21 (talk) 11:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

SO COLD
what give you the right to decide when my article is good enough to go on or not i read through ur stupid guidelines and then read them again. i didnt violate anything... so go get a life...

Laimnesis (name)
It even has a name day in both Latvia and Russia, Artlondon (talk) 20:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

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Re: creating portal pages in mainspace
Sorry, that was an accident. :0> Donnie Love (talk) 13:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Extended SI System of units
I was thinking that, instead of updating every SI unit article, we could put apart, as in, the SI System table wouldn't be updated and the extended system table would not include the original table. please tell me what you think.Caleb Levi Burns (talk) 16:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

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Mersey & Irwell Navigation
Hi Mayalld, Nice article. Just two minor problems, you've given two references by name and date only (and page no), e.g. Owen (1984); but what is "Owen"?.Pyrotec (talk) 20:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, a fair bit is ported from the MSC article, and I still need to do some reference cleaning. I'll fix it this week. Mayalld (talk) 21:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

SMS College Brahmavara
Please dont delete SMS College Brahmavara, article, i'm the one who got permission from Our collage to put the info from the website to wikipedia. ThanksNAvin Shetty Brahmavar 08:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Ma timi bina Marihaalchhu
Please donot delete it i have got permission from the director of this movie to make a wiki for it so please donot delete it. Thanks (NepaliBoy7 (talk) 09:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)).

XB Machine
Could you take a look at the new version of the article? --Itemirus (talk) 12:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It is still only sourced from primary sources, and still does nothing more than regurgitate the claims of its creators as to how wonderful it is. Totally unencyclopedic. Mayalld (talk) 12:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Article for speedy deletion
hi could you explain which parts of the Barrhead Travel article i should remove, there was no advertising intended when writing it Billrobsonbht (talk) 13:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Ashad Ali declined speedy
Hello, I declined the speedy deletion for this as playing for a national team asserts notability. Cheers, 20:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't know how I missed that! Sorry for the duff nom Mayalld (talk) 20:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No prob. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  20:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MBG Expense Management
I added some references to MBG Expense Management, and I do not think the tone of the article is unduly promotional. You may wish to review Articles for deletion/MBG Expense Management. --Eastmain (talk) 21:30, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your speedy deletion tag on chair throwing
I removed your speedy deletion tag, the speedy deletion is not entirely justified. "Chair throwing" gets 116,000 hits on Google, and there are well-known chair throwing incidents (performed by Steve Ballmer, Bob Knight, among other people as well). This article also contains a history section, and still I'm not entirely sure how this article meets the critera for speedy deletion. You also reverted 4 of my edits and identified them as vandalism, obviously this is not a clear case of vandalism and shouldn't have been reverted with such a vague edit summary. Thank you. Officeworld (talk) 15:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Mahaul Theek Hai
I would apreciate your revisiting Mahaul Theek Hai. Using informations and sources brought forward at the Afd, I corrected the article format and added sources to show its notability. While it still needs work, I am hoping you might advise what else I may do. Thank you, Schmidt (talk) 03:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

IPEXL Search.
I don't feel that page meets the criteria for speedy deletion, and I also intend to fix it. And since I didn't create the page, I'm perfectly entitled to remove the speedy. Have a nice day. 203.194.16.90 (talk) 12:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Again, I am perfectly within my rights to remove the speedy tag. If you insist on reverting it, I shall have to complain to an administrator. 203.194.16.90 (talk) 12:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The fact that you appear to be indulging in drive-by !votes to keep on several AfDs that I have been involved in implies that you have an agenda here, and are voting on AfDs to make a WP:POINT. No matter, I won't revert again. Off to AfD it goes.


 * Or rather, not, because it's already been deleted. Mayalld (talk) 12:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You created the AFD for Willard C. Butcher? This is not my first time as editor, I am not sure why you cannot see my previous edits. I shall have to recreate ‎"IPEXL Search" later. 203.194.16.90 (talk) 12:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * No, I found it interesting that you decided to !vote on another random AfD after !voting on two that I had created. I shall await the recreation of IPEXL Search with interest. Mayalld (talk) 12:34, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I only see one, for the Nepali movie. Is Chair throw also yours? You seem very keen to delete articles.  203.194.16.90 (talk) 12:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, Chair throwing is mine. I am not keen to delete articles. I am keen to delete content that shouldn't be there. Mayalld (talk) 12:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * A perusal of your edits seems to indicate that almost of them are related to Afds, speedy deletions or warnings to users about deletions. Therefore, I find your statement that you are not keen on deletions to be rather dubious. 203.194.16.90 (talk) 12:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I am keen on deleting junk, advertising, and all manner of stuff that doesn't belong here. Mayalld (talk) 13:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

River Arun
On 24 September 2007 you requested an image for River Arun, although it already had this image: Image:Stopham Bridge.JPG. Do you want another image for the article? Specifically of what do you want an image. Do any of these free images suit you: ? Please respond on my user talk page. Thank you.--Natl1 (Talk Page) (Contribs) 17:22, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD for Ma timi bina marihalchhu
I commented on this AfD earlier, and I saw your discussion on the AfD with another editor. I have to be honest, and I've tried to assume good faith, but it looks like we are being trolled by a few editors. The claims of racism and the "holier-than-thou" attitude, plus the rather clever names leads me to think this is simply a bit of trolling. Just thought I'd advise you on it. Wildthing61476 (talk) 12:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Please don't speedy delete Mickyala Mowry
Please don't delete this demi lovato told mt 2 write it coz Mickyala is her friend--MarioKart1 (talk) 13:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Page (MCC cricketer)
I've replied on the AfD page but I suggest you read WP:ATHLETE and WP:CRIN. This man played two first-class cricket matches which means he is a notable sportsman. The fact that the article is currently a stub, pending further information, is entirely within the terms of WP:STUB. I would add that the article does not quote "one single source" but two and they are both impeccable. In future, if you have any doubts about a cricket article, write to WT:CRIC first. We in WP:CRIC have had to deal with numerous attempts like this one to delete our articles and we have never lost one yet because first-class players meet the terms of WP:Notability. BlackJack | talk page 15:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In this case, the impecable sources contain absolutely zero information about the person, and it is far from clear that this was a "first class" match. As far as I can determine, both sources are merely reporting the fact that the name "Page" appears on a scorecard. They both regurgitate the same original source. Mayalld (talk) 16:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Elegant. Good on you. --Dweller (talk) 16:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * CricketArchive lists the two games as major matches and that is the equivalent of the later first-class classification. There is another source Stumpsite which classifies both of Page's games as first-class, though it doesn't discuss individual players.  Page is named on this ACS page which is a summary of Samuel Britcher's work (I suppose that source should be in the article).  It is true that little is known of Page but this is the case with many early players because they didn't receive the same media attention as the current lot do.  But it doesn't matter.  The fact is that he played in two first-class matches and therefore he passes WP:CRIN and WP:Athlete.  As such, any reader interested in early cricket should be able to look him up and see what is known about him.  Besides, there is always the possibility that new data will come to light.  BlackJack | talk page 16:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just seen your gracious withdrawal. Thanks for that and best wishes.  BlackJack | talk page 16:37, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

You
Hello. That impressed me. I think you have adminlike qualities and think you're not far off being ready to be nominated for adminship. Are you interested? I'd suggest as a first step that you list yourself at WP:ER, if you haven't already. If you are interested, my first glance at your contrib history suggests I'd be prepared to nominate you in the not too distant future. --Dweller (talk) 16:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you! For the next couple of months, I am going to be rather busy (getting married), but after that, I would be interested in running for Adminship. Mayalld (talk) 06:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Redirecting to "churches"
Sorry for the trouble, I think "Churches" should have a small "c" and be "churches", and so I am redirecting it to List of Coptic Orthodox churches in the United States.

Is that right? Again, sorry for the scramble. ~ Troy (talk) 20:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Okeedoke, I think we should leave it as is. Thanks, ~ Troy (talk) 20:13, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, since it's a title, the c should be capital, but in the intro, it is generalized and should be small. There, now I have made a decision. I hope you're fine with that :) ~ Troy (talk) 22:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

FUN RUINER
All I want is a page for my ultimate soccer manager team, i'm sure wikipedia can afford the bandwidth —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlanOvens (talk • contribs) 20:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Dollar Sweets dispute
Hi, you have added a NPOV tag to the Dollar Sweets dispute article I have just published, without outlining which parts you consider do not conform to the NPOV guideline. I assure you that I considered both the employer and union viewpoints and the general ramifications for industrial relations in the article and tried to write the article from a NPOV. Can you please outline your concerns either on my talk page or the article's talk page? Thanks. --Takver (talk) 06:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Mayalid
You are σμήγμα! Why do you tag people who vote against your AFDS! σμήγμα! 210.87.17.46 (talk) 07:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

MICKYALA MOWRY
Hi i'm mickyala mowry why did u speedy delete my article??? I was in a commerical i should at least have an article.--MarioKart1 (talk) 15:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't. I just proposed it for deletion
 * It was deleted because an admin agreed that you aren't notable
 * You shouldn't write about yourself. You aren't an impartial writer on the subject, and frankly it's pretentious
 * Wikipedia policy says tat appearing in a commercial doesn't make you notable.
 * Mayalld (talk) 15:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

B2X subpage
Hi. I just got a message saying you requested my user subpage be speedily deleted. I was told in order to create the article eventually I could create a subpage and edit it as necessary until it was ready to be proposed as an article on Wikipedia. Would please explain to me why you have requested a speedy deletion? Ahf1286 (talk) 16:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The idea is that in a user subpage, you are free from the threat of deletion for such things as not having sources. That doesn't mean that you can simply recreate the blatant advert. Start with a blank page, and add content, without creating an advert. Better still, leave it to somebody without a conflict of interest to write about the company. Mayalld (talk) 20:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that you should not just assume that someone has a conflict of interest and automatically request that what they write should have a speedy deletion. And how can I fix the article so that it will not qualify for your speedy deletion. I think instead of just tagging it, you can suggest how it can be changed, which is what I'm trying to do. I added it as a subpage so that I could make the proper edits that I needed on wikipedia. This was the suggestion I was given. There are also other pages on wikipedia wih the same type information that do not have any problems. I just feel like I would like to have someone explain what is wrong with that I have written. Ahf1286 (talk) 20:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I withdraw the assumption that you have a conflict of interest.
 * You need to write the article as a neutral observer, with information that both favours and criticises the subject. The article as it stands is not a good starting point, as any resulting article will inevitably be an advert tweaked to make it less of an advert. Start with a blank canvas, read some of the wikipedia policy pages and advice, then start afresh with the article. Mayalld (talk) 20:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I have looked at other articles about companies such as this, like alibaba which only gives information on the company, and does not include criticism towards the company. I do not understand why I could not follow that same type format. I am trying to take out any sentences that may sound even remotely advert to you or another wikipedia editor, but I do not see why providing just facts about the company would not work. Ahf1286 (talk) 20:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact that other articles have issues is not a valid argument for allowing another problematic article. We can't deal with all the problems today, and some articles come under the microscope before others. Anyway, I will back off on this article for a week to give you chance to fix it. If it is still fundamentally the same after a week, I'll put it up at MfD. If it is rewritten to be neutral, the problem will have vanished. Mayalld (talk) 20:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I am not saying that these other articles have issues, I'm merely stating that there are other articles only state company information and do not seem to have this problem.If all these other articles are allowed to be on wikipedia with information and not favoring or criticizing the company, than why not this one. Ahf1286 (talk) 21:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a look at what I've been doing to revamp the article to make it less advertisement like? I have changed the wording of a few things and taken some stuff out. I figured, since you were the one who qualified the article twice for speedy deletion I would see what you thought. So here is it: User:Ahf1286/B2X article Thank you. Ahf1286 (talk) 14:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Beamz (music device) and Jerry Riopelle
I have added sources to the former's article page and to the latter's talk page. Would you please review these and consider removing your request for deletion on Beamz (music device) and your various tags on Jerry Riopelle? Jwbeam (talk) 21:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Your report to WP:UAA
Thank you for making a report at Usernames for administrator attention. Unfortunately, your report has been removed due to the username not violating policy, or not being blatant enough for a block. Please remember you should only post infringements on this page if they are so serious that the user needs to be blocked immediately. Others should be discussed with the user in question first, for example using the Uw-username template. A request for comment can be filed if the user disagrees that their name is against the username policy, or has continued to edit after you have expressed your concern. Thank you. Is he back? (talk) 14:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. Clearly we take a different view of things. I find usernames which would be regarded as blasphemous, or which are deliberately intended to be close to blasphemous (regardless of the religion that the name attacks), highly offensive, and believe that they should have no place on Wikipedia. That is, however, only my own view, and clearly it is not one which others share.Mayalld (talk) 14:26, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Navigation keys
Nobody seems to be paying attention to what I'm actually trying to do at navigation keys. I'm attempting to merge several articles without removing the originals so I don't screw up the AfD process. Please see the AfD on WASD keys, and please don't leave any condescending "welcome to Wikipedia" messages. I know the drill here. Haikupoet (talk) 15:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't intend to be condescending, but you should not be doing this by C&P move Mayalld (talk) 15:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Survival value
It's late here and I'm rubbish at these. Please could you double check everything is ok with how your AfD debate is formed, as the link at the top of the article to its AfD is still a red link and doesn't link to the debate, even though the debate page exists? I approve of this AfD:) Sticky Parkin 03:04, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * A mystery! A null edit to the page fixed it. Mayalld (talk) 04:32, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

You're wasting your life Mayalld
Spending all of your time deleting articles. Destroying what other people have created. Have you ever actually started an article or contributed anything of substance beyond deletion nominations? Tick tick tick. 203.194.15.78 (talk) 10:35, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure sure. Bye Mayalld.  Keep adding those speedy tags!  It's SO useful. 203.194.15.78 (talk) 10:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I appreciate anyone who tries to delete what can euphemistically be called 'unencyclopedic content' from the wiki.:) Sticky Parkin 13:16, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Your report at AIV
Hey, I've got a question for you, regarding your report. How does this indicate a Spambot to you? What commercial link did it add, or promote? SQL Query me! 19:27, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * TBH, I am confused myself now. I cannot for the life of me remember what I thought the link said in TW when I used it, but it clearly wasn't what I thought it said. Severe brain fade on my part there. Mayalld (talk) 06:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Review Page
So I asked you this already when I asked you about my B2X subpage before, but since you never responded I thought I would ask it again under a new heading. Since you were so adamant about having my B2X article and subpage deleted, I wanted you to see if there was any sort of advertising that you felt was blatant. I do not think there is, but then again I didn't think it did before either so I thought another opinion would work. The link is in my last post. Please let me know what you think. Ahf1286 (talk) 13:51, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As the article stands, it isn't ready for somebody to spend time reviewing it. You need to read WP:MOS and get the referencing right. That means having inline citations linked to a references section, so we can see which resource supports which article text. Doing it with a Resources section that doesn't tell you which source supports what is not the right way. Mayalld (talk) 14:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thats fine, and I wasn't finished with everything yet. All I was asking from you was to tell me if you thought it was blatant advertising anymore or not. Also, there are other pages that do not have citations within their article. I could give examples if you wanted. It's not that I think those sites are wrong or should be deleted as well, just that as they are accepted that why I don't see why this one would create such a big deal. Ahf1286 (talk) 14:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, at a 10 second glance (which is all its getting until it has proper citations), it still looks VERY like advertising. The article takes great pains to tell you in great detail about all the things this comapany does, and an entirely un-needed list of execs, but doesn't discuss the company at all, and is written entirely from the POV of the company. The article has to be written from teh viewpoint of an outsider, rather than from the viewpoint of the editor of the company annual report. Mayalld (talk) 15:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * well I'm not sure what you were looking at considering the article I have right now is about 10 sentences long and does not seem to go to "great pains", as you say, to go into detail about all the things B2X does. I'm really not sure what an outsider would write besides what the company does. I truly think you need to get off your high horse for a second and try and realize that I was looking for suggestions on things to add, not constant negative. And as for the citations, like I said before there are other sites with the same types I have, I changed the name to external links because I realized resources might not be the best word. There are other sites that only have a list of external sources and nothing else. But since you seem to refuse to help me, but would not hesitate to just delete anything (and everything) you see, I will just ask others one wikipedia Ahf1286 (talk) 17:43, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You keep coming back to what is in other articles. Put it aside, because it isn't relevant. The fact that other articles may have more faults is not going to make a blind bit of difference to THIS article, any more than telling a police officer that others are exceeding the limit more than you will get you off a ticket.
 * You want to know what to add. Add proper inline citations, instead of the links that you have at present. But remove the pointless list of executives, and trim the article down more. Mayalld (talk) 21:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Like I stated before, i'm not saying other articles may have more faults, I jsut don't understand why this article is treated differently than all the others, as though you are personally attacking it for some reason. That being said I can remove the list of executives (although I do not find it pointless, but anyone who has knowledge of a business world wouldn't either) I will instead leave the three most important ones in the sidebar i have created. Coming back around to the actual point of what I asked in the first place, I don't see what you feel needs "triming". You seem to have extremely strong feelings towards this article being an advertisement, but still have failed to offer any reasons as to why you think so. Ahf1286 (talk) 19:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It just comes down to luck of the draw. Some articles wait around for months before anybody decides to deal with the problems, some don't. By chance, I alighted upon this article, and will follow it through to either an acceptable article, or deletion. I usually follow about 5 articles at any one time, and stick with them until they are no longer a problem, before finding another article. Mayalld (talk) 13:40, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, and I also would like to see it through, hopefully to inclusion. I really don't mean for it to have any advertising. I have rewritten it again. I understand how adamant you are about the citations, even though there are so many other sites with worse citations than what I have (they all have a banner on the top saying the citations are not proper, which I do not see why could not go on mine as well for now), but I would like to make the article neutral first. Ahf1286 (talk) 14:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

INTERESTING BOOK
I was on holiday in the philippines and read this book OCEAN UP is there anyway I could start it's page —Preceding unsigned comment added by MarioKart1 (talk • contribs) 08:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Not unless you can show that it is notable, and I can see no evidence that it is Mayalld (talk) 08:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

The incredible shrinking map Manchester, Bolton and Bury Canal
I moved the map template down the article, and inserted a line in the template to collapse all of it - I experimented with collapsing only segments but as it has 3 arms, it doesn't quite work. I've asked around to see if anyone can make it work better. Parrot of Doom (talk) 15:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of HMPP
Hello, Can you explain me why you proposed HMPP for Deletion? I'm kind of newbee here and I didn't get why. Thank you

Ben —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lebenworld (talk • contribs) 14:26, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Certainly. Wikipedia only allows articles for notable subjects (click the link for information about notability in this context), and that notability can be verified from reliable sources.
 * As far as I can determine, almost nobody, other than the creators of this software have ever written about it. Mayalld (talk) 14:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick answer.

Here is the list of press release I found: CP CAPS « CAPS boosts multicore software applications with HMPP » www.hpcwire.com	12/06/08 www.multicoreinfo.com	12/06/08 www.pxionline.com	12/06/08 www.dsp-fpga.com	12/06/08 dspfpgablog.com	12/06/08 www.industrial-embedded.com	13/06/08 www.mil-embedded.com	13/06/08 www.vmecritical.com	13/06/08 www.dspblog.com	13/06/08 fpgalogic.com	13/06/08 François Bodin (CAPS CTO) “An Evolutionary path for High Performance Heterogeneous Multicore Programming” www.hpcwire.com	12/06/08 www.dzone.com	13/06/08 CP AMD “AMD Stream Processor First to Break 1 Teraflop Barrier” www.pcworld.com	16/06/08 www.businesswire.com	16/06/08 www.neoseeker.com	16/06/08 bios.techpowerup.com	16/06/08 money.aol.com	16/06/08

CP CAPS/AMD « CAPS supports AMD FireStream processors »	22/07/08 www.hpcwire.com	22/07/08

HMPP is mainly supported by Nvidia, Intel and AMD and is well known in HPC world. The main users are HLRS, CEA, TOTAL, AMD, NVIDIA, EADS.

That's all the information I found.

I thought it was enough.

Is their a way to add those links into the HMPP page? Am I allowed to point to those press releases?

Thank you for your time

Ben —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lebenworld (talk • contribs) 14:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * No, press releases from a company do not show notability, and just aren't enough for an article Mayalld (talk) 14:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

HPCWire is the main information web site in HPC World. It's not a compagny press release. Lebenworld (talk —Preceding undated comment was added at 14:55, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It may well be an information web site, but the article on there carries the by-line by François Bodin, Chief Technical Officer, CAPS , so whether you regard it as a press release or not, the site is merely regurgitating content from the company. The fact that a company writes about itself is NOT going to make it notable. Mayalld (talk) 15:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what else to tell you. This HMPP directive set as some big chance of being part of OpenMP 3.0. Look at the article about OpenMP you will see that this is a tool used by many people. You may not know that tool but some people are using it. Mainly scientists use it for HPC. Now I don't know what is the procedure to go back to a not marked for deletion article. But I hope you will help me to do so.

Thank you for your help —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lebenworld (talk • contribs) 15:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * There isn't some magic process! If you can show that this is a notable subject (by providing independent sources), the deletion will be rejected by an admin. If not, it will be deleted. Mayalld (talk) 15:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

And what do you mean by providing independent sources? Find someone how knows HMPP better than you do? HMPP is a new way of thinking heterogeneous multi-core programming. So unless you work in that area you will never use it. But what mean a notable subject? A subject that everyone can understand? In that case HMPP article is not needed, neither OpenMP one. I just don't understand how you can say if it's notable or not. I thought an encyclopedia was here to share knowledge. That's what I'm doing here. For me people able to say if an article is notable or not is close to censorship. Sorry to use that word but I think we are not far from that. The references I will have are thesis available in some university but no on line link because usually users have a NDA and are not allowed to publish about their applications (could be nuclear, military, defense code). I hope that will help you to understand in what kind of area that tool is used and why you can't find a lot of information about it. So know if you can help me one way or another to find some notable content for that article I will be glad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lebenworld (talk • contribs) 15:45, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Right at the top of this conversation, I provided you withlinks to our notability, verifiability and Reliable sources policy pages. Call it censorship if you wish, but the policy is that unless there are independent sources (which need not be online) that somebody can go to to attest to the notability and acuracy of the article, it doesn't belong here. Mayalld (talk) 16:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your help anyway, I will try to find some articles about HMPP, and the references to the tesis. How long this article will stay? If I can't provide those information? I will do my best but I'm on holidays tognight. Talk to you soon --Lebenworld (talk) 07:51, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I'm back... And I worked on the references of HMPP. I moved the old content of References into Publications. And I added some references which I hope you will find more accurate. Thank you--Lebenworld (talk) 14:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that it does absolutely nothing to convince me that this is notable.
 * Instead of referencing the companies own website, you have added a "publications" section. This is just a set of external links, and as such is wrongly titled (perWP:MOS) and contains excessive links to the company website (per WP:EL
 * None of the references have inline citations which show which part of the content they purport to provide verifiability to
 * Half the references don't actually mention the product
 * Of the references that do mention the product, one is a blog, an inherently NOT a reliable source. The other is a powerpoint slide pack on an ftp server whose status is impossible to determine.
 * Sorry, but I see nothing here to revise my view. Mayalld (talk) 14:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid to say so but it looks like you didn't spent much time to study the links.
 * The section Publication doesn't contains any link to the company but to a notable website in the HPC world call HPCWire.
 * Automatic Parallelization for Graphics Processing Units in JikesRVM is a thesis explaining that HMPP is related to the GPGPU world. As RapidMind is.
 * Workshop on General Purpose Processing on Graphics Processing Units is a highly recognized workshop for science reviews. (HMPP is mentioned in the program)
 * Data Transfer Optimization in Scientific Applications for GPU based Acceleration is the HMPP problematics and it as been proved to work during that event.
 * Lead, Follow. or... Blog is a well known blog in HPC world.
 * here is some information about the PRACE project.

Is it possible to have someone how knows about the HPC thematic reviewing HMPP? I don't know if you have scientists in the Wikipedia review team.

I hope you will finally find those information notable. --Lebenworld (talk) 15:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Association of Nene River Clubs
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Junta trial
Hello, can you please explain the reason for the proposed deletion. I'm sure they do not include notability or lack of references. Thank you. Dr.K. (talk) 15:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly. The subject is already covered in the main article on the Junta, and a separate article is not needed. Mayalld (talk) 15:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The coverage of the trial that the new article will provide when fully developed will be much more extensive than what curently exists at the main article. This was a complex and notorious case. It cannot be fully covered within the junta article. Dr.K. (talk) 15:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless and until the volume of information in the main article increases greatly, I would dispute this. Mayalld (talk) 15:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Dr.K. (talk) 15:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi again. I would like to inform you that the article has now been expanded manyfold and I think that it fulfills your volume requirement. In addition the consensus at its AFD page is rather clear. I would like to make the DYK deadline if possible and I wonder if you would agree to close this AFD nomination early so that the DYK candidacy of the article can proceed. Thank you. Dr.K. (talk) 03:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the courtesy. I really appreciate it. Take care. Dr.K. (talk) 07:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

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User:AlexLevyOne
. . . is back and busy. I will try to keep an eye on him. JohnInDC (talk) 15:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Spotted him, and watching!! Mayalld (talk) 15:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Water transport locks - Paddle versus Wicket
Please see definition #5 given @ http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wicket for dictionary.com or, more clearly, definition #3 at the same page but under the American Heritage Dictionary section: "A sluice gate for regulating the amount of water in a millrace or canal or for emptying a lock. "

Thanks, CSZero (talk) 19:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the definition. I still don't think that it belongs in the header of the section though. Paddle is by far the most term worldwide by a wide margin, and there are other terms (Slacker and Clough spring to mind) which are more widely used than wicket. All should have a mention in the article, just not in the header! Mayalld (talk) 20:07, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the clarification. I added it back before your response (clarifying this seems to be an American term, although I wonder if it may be archaic), but I agreed before you even pointed it out, that it looked silly in the header.  You seem to know a lot about canals.  I live in Lowell, Massachusetts, which, depending if the comparison is canals or textile mills, has been called the Birmingham and the Manchester of America respectively :-)  I think that it is interesting the in the UK, canals were mostly about transportation, whereas in New England, although they did serve that purpose, we used them primarily for water power.  It seems the reason is that New England is both not a coal rich area, and our Industrial Revolution didn't really take hold until about 1820, which was very close to the dawn of railroads.  CSZero (talk) 20:21, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

infobox canal
Hi, once again thanks for creating this - I just wanted to ask, does the template need to be embedded into each article, or is it possible, like the waterways maps, to create a separate page (for instance, Template:Bridgewater Canal infobox) and use instead? Silly question I know but I'd rather ask than just go ahead and create a page that someone later has to delete. Parrot of Doom (talk) 20:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In general, templates that are only used on one article are frowned upon. The maps are a very borderline case that we "get away with" because they include a lot of code. I suspect that trying to transclude the infoboxes as would end up with people proposing their deletion! Mayalld (talk) 20:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I asked a question on the talk page of the infobox, but briefly - would it be ok to wikilink some of the terms? Parrot of Doom (talk) 14:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've done beam (by way of an example) Mayalld (talk) 14:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Super. I would suggest wikilinking any terms with which the general public might not be immediately familiar - so I would suggest Length overall, Lock (water transport), and maybe even elevation (although that might be going too far) Parrot of Doom (talk) 14:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)r
 * BTW, your talk page has some of the funniest entries I've ever seen :D Parrot of Doom (talk) 14:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

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Why did you defer this to admins?
No idea on this.   Ase ' nine ' '' 17:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
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Sock-puppet report
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