User talk:Mazdakabedi

IRAN
Hi, There is a discussion here. Thanks. *** in fact  ***   (contact)  06:29, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

On correct transliteration
I do hope that you are the person calling himself "Mazdakabadi" (I am astonished that you have made reaching you so difficult and confusing --- what are these different names for? Your texts at the points of redirecting are also extremely confusing!). Any way, I have noticed that you have now changed "Al-Afghani" into "Asadabadi". I am one of the people who has repeatedly fought to change Al-Afghani into Asadabadi, but without success, and I expect that you will also encounter problems before long. I am however not here to tell you this, but to tell you that your transliteration into "Sayyid Jamal-al-din Asadabadi" is just wrong on several fronts. I have already discussed the issue here. Briefly, the name MUST become "Sayyed Jamal ad-Din Asadabadi" (please note the hyphenation). "al-din" is absolutely incorrect, because "D" in "Din" is a Shamsi letter (if you are Iranian, then you must have had for several years Arabic in your school curriculum!). Putting hyphenation between "Jamal" and "al" is also incorrect, aside from being non-standard; as I believe you must know (if you are Iranian), the Arabic article "al" (and here "ad" because of the "D" in "Din") is part of (or refers to) "Din", not of "Jamal"! In short, please go back and change "Jamal-al-din Asadabadi" into what it must be, namely "Jamal ad-Din Asadabadi". As for "Sayyid", personally I prefer "Sayyed" above "Sayyid" because "Asadabadi" was Iranian and in Farsi we pronounce "Sayyed" as "Sayyed", and not as "Sayyid" (but I am not insisting on this). I am very sorry, but I feel deeply frustrated by the fact that you have undertaken to do something so far-reaching on an entry that is consulted by an international readership, without giving serious attention to some basic relevant details. Kind regards, --BF 01:18, 12 March 2011 (UTC).

ps: I placed the above message first on the talk page of "*** in fact ***", being misled by his/her specific signature. --BF 03:35, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

سلام دوست عزيز. از آن‌جايی که حدس می‌زنم شما هم فارسی‌زبان باشيد جوابتان را به فارسی می‌دهم.

من هم با شما در مورد نوشتن نام به صورت اد-دين موافقم. منتها من برای اين‌که خيلی بحث ايجاد نشود از نوع نگارشی خود مقاله استفاده کردم که در آن به همين‌صورت -ال-دين آمده بود. همين‌طور در مورد «سَيد» که در فارسی به اين صورت تلفظ می‌شود ولی در عربی نه. به‌هر‌حال اسدآبادی شخصيت بين‌المللی‌ای بود و تلفظ اسمش در هر زبانی متفاوت و فکر می‌کنم برای تغييراتی اين‌چنين بايد يک بخش گفت‌و‌گوی جديد باز شود و نظر‌خواهی کرد. اگر مايليد اين بحث را شما شروع کنيد تا من هم در آن شرکت کنم و ببينيم نظر ديگران در اين زمينه چيست.

با احترام P. Pajouhesh (talk) 17:55, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Dear Pajouhesh, thank you for your kind response. Very unfortunately, I am going through a very busy period, so that I am not in a position to open any discussion on the subject matter now, or any time soon. However, I can assure you that what I have written above is based on my considerable experience on the subject matter --- I think that by now I have been here in English Wikipedia for some six years; this is over and above the fact that I have given the subject matter under discussion my careful attention (I also am familiar with the relevant literature). I believe that exactly because Asadabadi was an international figure (and we see with our own eyes today that the things he envisaged in his lifetime are becoming reality now -- one of which being the unprecedented friendly and warm relationship that is coming about between Iran and Turkey -- then the Ottoman Empire; with the recent political upheavals in the Middle East, a similar relationship may also come about between Iran and Egypt, also one of the projects of Asadabadi's in his lifetime. Asadabadi did a great deal to bring Iran and Turkey together, but Naser ad-Din Shah did not trust the Ottomans, perhaps rightly; he thought that Ottoman's intention was to marginalize Shi'a Islam, and thereby Iran). Given Asadabadi's significance, a large part of which still latent, it is of utmost importance that we get at least his name right! We owe this both to truth and to people. Consequently, I am absolutely against the transliteration as adopted by you. It is my considered opinion that his name must be written "Sayyed Jamal ad-Din Asasabadi", with the possibility that "Sayyed" be written "Sayyid" (although this is not my preferred option). The fact that only illiterates would pronounce "ad-Din" as "al-Din", and write "al-Din" as "al-din" (with lower-case "d"), is just a compounded disaster for English Wikipedia! It fills me with rage to see "Sayyed Jamal ad-Din Asasabadi" written as "Sayyid Jamal-al-din Asadabadi", for an international audience, with the nonchalance of "به‌هر‌حال اسدآبادی شخصيت بين‌المللی‌ای بود و تلفظ اسمش در هر زبانی متفاوت" --- I feel just unable to convey my rage at seeing such statement as you have made here --- I positively dislike the phrase "به‌هر‌حال", "any way", in the present context. As the people who know better on the subject matter than the rest of the world (Iran's population is roughly just 1% of world's total population and this 1% is responsible to inform the remaining 99% correctly on matters that they know best by the accident of their births), we are not at liberty to be so indifferent to facts as we seem to be. I therefore request you once more kindly to correct the errors that you have introduced. Kind regards, -BF 22:50, 12 March 2011 (UTC).


 * Please see this page. -BF 21:50, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

March 2011
I noticed that you have posted comments to the page User talk:BehnamFarid in a language other than English. When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, no matter to whom you address your comments. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, please provide a translation of the comments. For more details, see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. Stifle (talk) 21:55, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Sourcing requirements for biographies
Hi. I notice that you added information to Sami Yusuf, but sourced it to the Arabic Wikipedia. Unfortunately, we can't use content that is sourced to Wikipedia articles, whether that is in English or any other language. It is not a "reliable source". The Wikimedia Foundation has had complaints about improperly sourced material in that article, so we must be particularly careful with it. Since we cannot include biographical detail without a reliable source, I have removed the information you added. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 23:15, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. Sorry, but blogs are rarely usable, either. See WP:BLPSPS. Somebody has already removed the content; we would need a reliable source to include it. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

April 2011
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Sayyid Jamal-ad-Din Asadabadi. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. ''Please stop reverting and use the talk page. I will be sending the same message to the other editor.  Neil N   talk to me '' 19:27, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.


 * Hi. Thank you for coming. I always use the Talk page but other side always do what himself believes. I just invite him to discuss in what he add. I'm surely agree with you and tired of this fight. please, Protect that article. Regards. P. Pajouhesh (talk) 19:34, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It takes two to edit war. If you have issues with the changes, you can also discuss the problems on the talk page. -- Neil N    talk to me  19:43, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


 * See? He really doesn't want to talk about the article. When anyone invite him to talk, He objects it and does what he believes. He even suspects me! You can judge the condition. It's not his first time. P. Pajouhesh (talk) 18:52, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Premature Iran categories
Greetings! Two or more stub types which you created have been nominated for renaming or deletion at Stub types for deletion. The stub type most likely doesn't meet Wikipedia requirements for a stub type, through failure to meet standards relating to the name, scope, current stub hierarchy or likely size, as explained at Stub. Please feel free to make any comments at WP:SFD regarding this stub type, and in future, please consider proposing new stub types first at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals! This message is a boilerplate, left here as a courtesy, and should not be considered personal in nature. Dawynn (talk) 13:16, 10 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi dear friend. I agree with you about what you said. but I have plan to complete these categories in a Month. I just made those for in first step to sorting Iranian writing articles that spread through the Wikipedia. Now, what would I do after this nomination for deletion? Is it possible to stop deletion?P. Pajouhesh (talk) 15:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * These have been posted on a discussion forum. Please discuss on the deletion discussion forum. Dawynn (talk) 15:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

June 2011
Please do not add unsourced content, as you did to Dhul-Qarnayn. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. ''Please read WP:IRS. Forums, ask.yahoo, etc. are not acceptable sources by our criteria. Please also read WP:NOR. Thank you. '' Dougweller (talk) 09:03, 11 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Which parts I added are unsourced content? every thing I added has adequate sources.P. Pajouhesh (talk) 11:29, 11 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I've asked you to read WP:IRS and mentioned a couple of sources you used that aren't acceptable. You need to also read WP:NOR. But now that you ask, your problems are much worse. You have copied from and you can be blocked for WP:COPYRIGHT violations. You also called Pico's edits vandalism, see WP:VANDALISM. That's a misuse of Twinkle and if it happens again you won't be able to use Twinkle. Dougweller (talk) 11:41, 11 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I even didn't read before! what an unfair warning :( P. Pajouhesh (talk) 11:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm informing you that it is a copyright violation, I'm not blocking you. I am saying that repeatedly inserting it could lead to a block. Dougweller (talk) 11:51, 11 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, God! but I even didn't copy that. I just research and add data with all of my sources linked to the parts. I just wish if I copied that this warning weren't unfair P. Pajouhesh (talk)


 * On a more positive side, I've just seen your note on Pico's talk page and think is was a positive message showing you want to work with other editors. Shame about using Twinkle that way though. Dougweller (talk) 11:53, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Dougweller (talk) 12:17, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Political accusations against the Baha'i Faith
I think this is the article you are looking for --Soundofmusicals (talk) 02:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't mean that. I meant the article has some POV informations from Bahai believers not an observer's view. This article needs some rewritings.P. Pajouhesh (talk) 18:28, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I appreciate where you are coming from. But the "observers' view" would need to be factual and well cited (we don't put our own personal opinions here, after all) - very difficuolt to get right in an encyclopedia article. "Observers" often have a very strong POV of their own, and anyway don't agree among themselves. We have to assume that the believers in a religion are the ones to tell us what they believe (see other articles about religions) - we can after all agree or disagree with those beliefs as we will (it's called freedom of religion). You really have to present the facts (and this article has all the facts, including some that lots of people, even some Baha'is, won't like). Just imagine if we presented Islam from a Christian (or Hindu!) point of view, or Christianity from an Atheist or Jewish angle. Just wouldn't work, would it? Strong criticism of a religion really belongs with the religion of the people making the accusations - for instance Islamophobic rubbish tends to say more about Christian intolerance than it does about Islam. Emotional polemics, in particular, don't belong here - there are plenty of other places for that sort of thing. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 00:49, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * BTW - if you have a genuine problem with the neutrality of the main Baha'i article then the place to go to is the discussion page for that article. Why not make some specific suggestions for improvements? Who are the "observers" in whose name we should rewrite the article?? --Soundofmusicals (talk) 02:47, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Dear friend, I didn't mean it either. I meant that an encyclopedic article have to be on neutralized point of view, not believers neither arch enemies (you linked to political accusations against the Baha'i Faith but there are more about that besides political) which both are POV. We needs NPOV article which it's meaning is clear. Besides, I don't have any problem with you and Baha'is (if you are one of them) so, Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved and after that an admin with neutral (not benefited) point of view will remove the tag. Unfortunately, The way that you remove the tag is going to be an edit fight and it's not good for none of us. Please discuss about this subject on the article's talk page. You can add this tag on Islam if you really believe it's a POV and see what others say.P. Pajouhesh (talk)
 * I still don't agree that it is anything but "neutral" already - especially when compared to other articles about religions - but let's leave the tag for the moment (at least so far as I am concerned). I would be fascinated to see a rewriting of, say, in the first instance, the lead: in what, from your point of view, would be a more "neutral" point of view. Perhaps you can actually improve the quality of the article? I assume that as you don't have any issues with the Baha'i Faith that you must have studied it at some depth to have been able to form such a strong impression about an article about it. And no - my question about the Islam article was really, do you, yourself feel that it is any more "neutral"? I thought that if you were dispassionate about wanting religious articles to be "neutral" you might wish to look at other articles, and this one in particular, as well. Do YOU think the Islam article could be improved by being re-written from an "outside observer's" point of view?


 * I do agree that this has gone on quite long enough as a "person to person". There is already a section on the discussion page which I started when I first deleted your tag - perhaps you need to make any further comments there. I think I had better step back anyway, and (as you put it) "see what others say". Best wishes anyway. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 15:12, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Saeed Soltanpur
Hi Pajouhesh, I'm currently blocked on fawiki, so I can't edit there. I noticed that you have changed the university that the 10th poetic meeting was held in, to the Faculty of Engineering of University of Tehran. That's completely false. That meeting was held in Aryamehr University of Technology (now Sharif University of Technology). That poetic meeting was a turning point in Iran's history and many historians believe that the meeting provided the spark for Iranian revolution. Please correct your mistake! Americophile (talk) 23:03, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi dear friend. I don't exactly know what is true in this case. As you can see in this changes I just think that the author means that "دانشگاه صنعتی تهران" is "دانشکده فنی دانشگاه تهران"; Because someone said before that "دانشگاه صنعتی تهران" didn't exist. If you believe that the university is "آریامهر" please, hand me by some source for your claim. Thanks. P. Pajouhesh (talk) 13:41, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I had a look at "Iran between two revolutions" by "Ervand Abrahamian" and I noticed that the date of meeting is false too. The exact text is:


 * تا اواخر آبان ۱۳۵۶، فعالیت‌های عمدهٔ مخالفان عبارت بود از: نوشتن نامه، تشکیل گروه‌های جدید، احیای گروه‌های قدیمی و انتشار بیانیه، اعلامیه و روزنامه. اما در اواخر آبان ماه به خیابان‌ها ریختند و مرحلهٔ جدیدی از انقلاب را آغاز کردند. نقطهٔ عطف این مرحله ۲۸ آبان بود. در این روز، پس از برگزاری نه جلسهٔ شب شعر آرام کانون نویسندگان در باشگاه انجمن ایران و آلمان و دانشگاه صنعتی آریامهر (شریف)، پلیس کوشید تا جلسهٔ دهم را که حدود ۱۰٬۰۰۰ دانشجو -ظرفیت کامل محل برگزاری مراسم- در آن شرکت داشتند، برهم بزند. به دنبال این اقدام، ناگهان جمعیتی خشمگین از دانشگاه بیرون ریختند و شعارهای ضد رژیم سر دادند. در جریان درگیری تظاهرکنندگان با پلیس، یک دانشجو کشته، بیش از هفتاد نفر زخمی و حدود یکصد نفر دستگیر شدند. در ده روز بعدی نیز تهران شاهد تظاهرات بیشتر دانشجویی و بسته شدن دانشگاه‌های اصلی شهر در اعتراض به خونریزی ۲۸ آبان بود. همچنین، در طول هفتهٔ بعد، دانشجویان دانشگاه‌های مهم کشور به مناسبت ۱۶ آذر -روز غیر رسمی دانشجو- دست به اعتصاب زدند و تظاهرکنندگان دستگیر شده در ناآرامی‌های گذشته، پس از محاکمه‌های کوتاه در داگاه‌های مدنی، تبرئه شدند. این محاکمه‌ها به مردم نشان داد که ساواک دیگر نمی‌تواند از دادگاه‌های نظامی برای ارعاب مخالفان استفاده کند. بدین ترتیب ثابت شد که سیاست تعدیل نظارت و گسترش فضای باز سیاسی نه یک مسکن سیاسی بلکه محرکی نیرومند بوده‌است.

Coronavirus Iran source
I removed your citation because they’re poorly sourced, please translate your source title into English, everybody do that, why you can’t? And I’m sure that most people on English Wikipedia can’t read that language. Nguyen QuocTrung (talk) 19:07, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Regarding you recent edit on the template, you changed the title and url of the reference, but you didn’t change the publisher name, and in the translated title you simply changed the numbers. This is not the way to do it. I checked with Google Translate and the title is totally different. If you have a new source, please create a new citation and replace the old citation entirely. If you insist to use the old citation code, change all the related parameters applicable (date, title, trans-title, url, publisher/work, access-date), don’t be lazy. Thanks. Hayman30 (talk) 18:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)