User talk:Mbrightman

Renaissance painting
Putting the details of an exhibition into the introduction of an article is spamming. As you must be aware, the details of an exhibition about Vincent van Gogh has nothing whatever to do with the subject.

Don't put that information into any other article., unless the article is about the exhibition.

Amandajm (talk) 05:27, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Adding information to an article.
Mbrightman, I have had to revert both the edits that you made to Italian Renaissance painting. The reason for the reversions is that you are not following even the most basic principles of editting anything.

Here are the principles:
 * 1) Read!  Don't touch an article until you have read it!
 * 2) Look at how the article is laid out.  The first clue to this is in the Table of contents.  Don't put anything in the wrong place.  Choose carefully what section your information should go into.
 * 3) Think' about the content that is already there.  Ask yourself  whether what you are about to add is in the same manner as what is already there.  Does it disrupt something?  Does your addition break into the middle of a connected idea?  Does your addition really follow on from what has been said?  Does your addition fit under the sentence that introduces the section?

In your addition to the Renaissance art article, you went to a section that had a first sentence stated "This is a brief summary of material that is found in full in two other articles.  So, ignoring that introductory sentence, you shoved in a whole section on top of it!''

Your section was about religious commissions. If you had looked down at the next section, you would have found a whole paragraph about the fact that most of the artistic commissions were for religious paintings.

The section that you added to was 1. Brief,  2. Mentioned the names of only a few individual people (e.g. the Medici family) who affected the whole tradition of Renaissance art in some way. It was not the appropriate place to talk about one commission to one artist and how it was an example of how things worked. This would only be appropriate if you were talking about a work that impacted in a really substantial way on the history of Renaissance art. In other words: The Ghiberti Doors and The Sistine Chapel Ceiling, which, of course, are both dealt with in the article..

Please read and think about articles that you add to, as I don't want to have to keep on deleting your efforts.

Also, when an article is good, well written and intact, it's best to leave it like that, and make your suggestions on the talk page, rather than just inserting them. If you add something disruptive to an article that is used by a lot of people, then perhaps a thousand people will look at what you have added, and be confused by the disruption to the text, before someone fixes it again. People that fix stupid vandalism (like rude words and deletion) don't usually delete edits like your, even if they disrupt the flow of the article, or are not appropriate to the section. This sort of stuff only gets fixed when an editor who knows the subject weel come along. That means that if you add stuff that doesn't fit, it can sometimes stay there for years and confuse everyone who reads it.

There are thousands of articles that need lots of work and would benefit by additions. It's best to start on minor articles rather than get stuck into a major one, which is carefully maintained. The rules apply: Read, Look, and Think!

Amandajm (talk) 04:01, 1 December 2011 (UTC)