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Speedy deletion nomination of Dr. Michael Schwartz


A tag has been placed on Dr. Michael Schwartz requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Clubmarx (talk) 04:43, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

December 2010
You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved, instead of writing it yourself, as you did at ‎Dr. Michael Schwartz. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to No original research, Neutral point of view, and Verifiability.

If you are not "notable" under Wikipedia guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Wikipedia is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedians with articles.) Thank you.  Cind. amuse  04:48, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Dr. Michael Schwartz, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you.  ttonyb (talk) 04:48, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself, as you did with Dr. Michael Schwartz. Please use the template on the page instead if you disagree with the deletion, and make your case on the page's talk page. Thank you.  ttonyb (talk) 04:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Michael Schwartz (physician)


A tag has been placed on Michael Schwartz (physician) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you.  ttonyb (talk) 16:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Your problems with the Dr. Schwartz article
I see you've been running into repeated problems creating an article on Schwartz, and I was hoping that I might help you understand the difficulties you're facing. You've got two barriers to creating this article, one which is likely conquerable, one which isn't. I do hope you take your energy, enthusiasm, and knowledge and continue to use them to improve Wikipedia, even if it cannot be on the article you wish to create. --Nat Gertler (talk) 19:18, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * the conquerable problem is WP:NOTABILITY. It's easy to assume that something qualifies for its own Wikipedia page because it's great or important... but that ain't the case. What qualifies it is that it's discussed - that there are significant sources talking about the subject. So things that Schwartz has done don't qualify him for notability (though they should make the meat of the article) - it's things that are written about him that do. So if you can find interviews with him, or articles about things that he's done which significantly mention him, you can probably get by this one. But then there's...
 * the conflict of interest. Basically, your association with AAPRP - a group he founded - makes it look like you have an interest in promoting the founder of the group. The policy states that you shouldn't be the one to create such an article. There are ways to propose that someone else create an article, however, which are reasonable and appropriate.

Thank you Nat!! We have included several references and articles written about Dr. Schwartz. Could you please review and tell us if these are the type of articles you are speaking of?? Once again...thanks for your help

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/medical-issues-and-the-aaprp

http://books.google.com/books?id=Z4YnxIeX-EMC&pg=PA278&lpg=PA278&dq=michael+schwartz+ringside+hauser&source=bl&ots=YtWvS2cZwa&sig=re91hxEalQB0Sl9x32ZAODOdW5k&hl=en&ei=4VcOTdjxEMys8Abth7jjCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=0o1iPjMQ7-0C&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=michael+schwartz+ringside+hauser&source=bl&ots=4zbdPQiaU5&sig=aCp0Dt_M7F3Iej1MoDTgnwupzvo&hl=en&ei=4VcOTdjxEMys8Abth7jjCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CC4Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=michael%20schwartz%20ringside%20hauser&f=false


 * The first might be a sign of notability (I'd have to understand better the nature of the website); the second and third are merely one-paragraph mentions in books of hundreds of pages, plus they are by the same author as the first, so they don't really add to the case. However, that is still moot because "we" (by which I assume you mean AAPRP or people of the AAPRP) should not be creating an article. If the AAPRP wants to have a biography of Dr. Schwartz, they should have it on their website, where they can focus it as they wish, and have it be as promotional as they wish - and it may even serve as a data source when someone chooses to do a bio for Wikipedia. But you should not be writing that bio directly. --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:54, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

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