User talk:McJeff/Archive4

AN3 report
Just a heads up, I added comments in my close directed to you @ the thread over yonder. Basically, just be sure not to get caught up in an edit war yourself, as you narrowly escaped getting blocked along with the other dude (the only thing stopping that being that everyone involved in the dispute demonstrating opposition to the other user's edits). Anyway, cheers. =) -- slakr \ talk / 08:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello McJeff. I posted a question for you in your most recent 3RR complaint about Veecort. EdJohnston (talk) 06:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Retire? No!
Hey, McJeff! I always thought you were an overall good user and hope you'll stick around! Best, --A NobodyMy talk 15:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the kind words. As I find deletionism so contrary to the spirit of wikipedia that it sickens me, I've taken to editing on topic-specific wikis where deletionism doesn't exist. In addition, due to some other stresses I find my good faith rather lacking, and until things change, a state of near retirement on my part is best all around. If there's anything in specific you want to ask for my help with feel free, though I no longer participate in the XfD process. McJeff (talk) 05:06, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I don't participate in AfDs as much as I used to in part because I find it difficult to actually discuss with those who dishonestly call things "cruft" or "non-notable", but at the same time, I'd rather not be bullied away. Sometimes we have to stand up for what we believe in and do what is right even though it isn't always enjoyable.  Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 14:11, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!


I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, --Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, A NobodyMy talk 02:35, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Gavin.collins RFC/U
Hello. A request for comment on user conduct has recently been filed regarding Gavin.collins. Since you were involved in the Request for Mediation, I thought that you would want to know. You can see the RFC/U here. Thank you. BOZ (talk) 00:10, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for endorsing one or more summaries in the RFC. Please note that two proposals have been put forward on how we can move on after the RFC: Casliber's proposal and Randomran's proposal. Please take the time to look over these proposals, and consider endorsing one of them, or writing one of your own. Thanks again for your participation! BOZ (talk) 03:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Daily Bruin
FYI: An action of yours is being discussed at WP:RSN. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 16:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas


A NobodyMy talk is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding to their talk page with a friendly message. --A NobodyMy talk 02:53, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

User:McJeff
Any chance you might request an admin undelete that section of your userpage as it was excellent? Best, --A NobodyMy talk 04:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Recent Additions to Little Green Footballs
What's your opinion on this? My first impulse was to revert, but I thought I'd ask for someone else's reaction first. I've been a bit too hasty with the revert button lately anyway.... Mark Shaw (talk) 14:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * My guess is that the user who added that stuff is the same troll who's been involved in the article since January. You know, the same one who was LGOutcast, LittleGreenVolleyballs and that IP who tried to get Charles Foster Johnson merged into Little Green Footballs. Seeing as how he's been getting caught by having LGF-centric usernames I think he decided to "hide" by making a DKos username.


 * At any rate, in most cases using message board posts as sources isn't allowed under Wikipedia's Biographies of Living Persons rules because they can disappear, be edited, and in most cases it's impossible to prove that the person making the post is who he says he is. We ran into that on the Zombietime article a few years ago. zombie claimed he was subject to hacking attempts on LGF, and it wasn't usable as a source. Since Charles is the webmaster and that's provable, it might be a case where the rule is ignorable, but we'd need consensus among honest editors to do so.


 * I went ahead and reverted back to your latest version for you. McJeff (talk) 17:29, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

RE: Userfication request
Done. Sorry for the wait, I was on vacation. ff m  16:27, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, your userpage states you are retired, is this in fact the case? ff m  16:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm semi-retired, although I've been pretty active for the last couple weeks. Should I take that down? McJeff (talk) 20:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Loved your tag
I copied your tag you have on your talk page. thanks. Ikip (talk) 16:09, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I thanked hobit too. Thanks for the inspiration. Ikip (talk) 18:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Regarding
Please do request undeletion of your userpage's edit history. You had some brilliant ideas on your views on Wikipedia that I really wish were restored to your userpage. Thanks! :) --A NobodyMy talk 17:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, to be quite honest, my current view on deletionism is much, much less charitable than what used to be expressed on my userpage. A particular deletion of a well sourced "List of characters in..." article for 3 WP:WEDONTNEEDIT votes and one spurious claim of original research... deletionism is becoming much more of a plague than I thought it was. I don't want to recall the old version, but I'll see what I can write up about it.  Thanks much for the compliments though. McJeff (talk) 17:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Smile!


A NobodyMy talk has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend, Go on smile! Cheers, and Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

WQA
Hello, I am just writing this to let you know that a template is not necessary. Most people simply leave a message informing a user of the WQA about/mentioning them with a short note such as "I have filed a WQA regarding you" or "This is just to let you know that there is a WQA that mentions you" and then provide a link to the correct WQA section. A message of that sort is perfectly sufficient, and no special template is required to inform others of a WQA, as long as some type of message is left to let them know one has been filed. Thanks The   Seeker 4   Talk  13:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I thought it was supposed to be all official with a template and everything. McJeff (talk) 15:40, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

LittleGreenFootballs
Hiya, McJeff! Saw your note on the LGF page. The reason I changed the importance from "High" to "Mid" was actually related to the fact the article is one of the best put together of Wikipedian blogging pages, and thus needed less attention from the blogging project for improvement. Work would be better suited on pages like DaliyKos and Free Republic. The editors of this page have done a fine job; a little more cleanup, and I think it could be the first GA or even FA within the scope of our Wikiproject. If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know; if you want to leave the importance as "high" for now, that's fine with me. I was going through and sorting some priorities, but I'll notate the article for discussion on the importance level! Thanks! Ks64q2 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy Saint Patrick’s Day!
On behalf of the Kindness Campaign, we just want to spread WikiLove by wishing you a Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 15:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Bernard Goldberg
McJeff, do you have any interest in watching an issue over at Bernard Goldberg? If so, see the last five or so sections on the discussion page. For an executive summary, see this diff:. Cheers! Mark Shaw (talk) 13:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey Mark. I took a look through the whole dispute and posted my take on it.  I'll watch list the article too. McJeff (talk) 21:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy Easter!
On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 07:13, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding User:ECW500 socks
I blocked them based on your report at WP:AIV. In the future, however, it would be better if you made such reports at the appropriate noticeboard, which is WP:SPI. First, cases at WP:SPI are collated by the sock master, making it MUCH easier to track long-term abuse. Secondly, CheckUsers that patrol SPI are able to look for as-yet-undiscovered sock puppets and they may also block the underlying IP addresses which may help to prevent (rather than react to) particularly damaging abusers. Thanks a bunch! --Jayron32. talk . contribs 00:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'll keep that in mind in the future. Should I file an SPI on them even though the accounts are blocked? McJeff (talk) 16:28, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * What I would do is wait for the next one to show up, then file a new SPI report with all known socks grouped together, even the blocked ones. When you do, I would request a checkuser to root out any unknown socks and block the underlying IPs.  --Jayron32. talk . contribs  19:10, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello
Just wanted to say Hi, after having passed my recent Request for adminship. How's everything going?

I don't know if you've been around in a while, but I'd like to point out to you the success we've had with the D&D GA-drive so far: Gary Gygax, Wizards of the Coast, Dragons of Despair, Drizzt Do'Urden, Forgotten Realms, Tomb of Horrors, Dwellers of the Forbidden City, White Plume Mountain, The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth, Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, Planescape: Torment, Dragonlance, and Against the Giants, and we plan to hit Dave Arneson and Drow (Dungeons & Dragons) after some work. :)

If you're interested in coming around to check out what we've been up to, you are welcome as always. :) BOZ (talk) 17:39, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Appreciated all the same. ;) BOZ (talk) 17:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Current activity on Little Green Footballs
I'm detecting a faint aroma of socks. What do you think? Mark Shaw (talk) 00:53, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure that the 85.117 IP address has edited before, that's why he says "there's a consensus". User:SlickyboyRick seems ok though, more like a newbie who just doesn't know how wikipedia works yet.  I think wait before doing anything and petitioning for the article to be semi-protected if the IP edit wars is the way to go. McJeff (talk) 01:54, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm with you on User:SlickyboyRick. The two most recent IPs resolve to the same place via whois, though - Hamburg, interestingly enough.  But yes, let's wait a bit and see. Mark Shaw (talk) 02:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Same range. I'm guessing dynamic IP. Very interesting that the anti-LGF pro-Spencer editor is posting from Germany. McJeff (talk) 04:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Just a quick note: if you disagree with what I did here, and want to change it back for any reason, please go ahead (or let me know and I'll do it) and I won't object. I thought I'd made that implicitly clear, but thinking about it later in the day I guess it's possible I may not have. Just FYI, and you need not respond unless you wish to. Cheers! Mark Shaw (talk) 21:03, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * No disagreements from me. Incidentally it looks as though both the IP and the newbie have abandoned the article for the time being. McJeff (talk) 18:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Bully External Links
Hi there. I was actually going by the WP:VG/EL guidelines when removing the external links from Bully - they generally state that official sites are ok, but others shouldn't really be included. Thanks! Fin©™ 16:53, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I saw that. There were a couple links that probably should be intergated into the article rather than used as external links, other than that, it was a fine edit per the policy you linked me to. McJeff (talk) 17:12, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * K cool, thanks! =) Fin©™ 22:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Edits at Recurring enemies in The Legend of Zelda series
I'd rather not you accuse me of "disruption", "nonsense" or lacking WP:SENSE, thank you. If you have a problem with my edits, then raise the issue on the talk page instead of assuming bad faith. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 17:53, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry that you dislike my characterization of your edits; however, I stand by them, especially considering how you opted to renew an argument a week after it ended and furthermore deleted new work including the addition of sources in your reverting. That is not a good faith action.


 * Furthermore, I would like you to read the article These are not original research.


 * Lastly I would like to point out that WP:N applies to inclusion, or whether a subject deserves its own article. It does not apply to every single sentence within the article. McJeff (talk) 01:12, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ignoring your accusations of bad faith, I still don't see how any of the content you added passes Wikipedia's policies. Your edits added completely unverified details like "Archosauromorphic", "resembling the dinosaur Triceratops.", "and have vulnerable tails rather than a weakness to bombs", etc., all of which clearly constitute original research due to their absence of reliable sources. Secondly, the only independent source you provided to assert real-world notability was to TVTropes wiki, which has absolutely no standards of inclusion whatsoever and is therefore not a reliable source; it accepts virtually any claim that something has become a trope by its users but shows no actual evidence of the trope's real-world context. Thirdly, your claims relating to WP:POINT and WP:SENSE have absolutely no foothold as far as the removal of original research is concerned; there is no defined threshold at which unverified material is accepted on Wikipedia, and everything must be sourced. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 01:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * From the policy I linked to, Anything that can be observed by a reasonable person simply by reading the work itself, without interpretation, is not original research, but is reliance upon a primary source. McJeff (talk) 01:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * "interpretation" is exactly what's in the quotes I cited above. If the primary source doesn't explicitly state things like the claims in your edits, then it is up to the reader to interpret what they mean and therefore such interpretations constitute original research. Either way, such primary sources must be directly cited for verifiability, which wasn't the case here. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 01:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well actually yes, the primary source was provided. You just reverted over it. McJeff (talk) 03:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Only one primary source was provided, which certainly didn't cover the several claims you made in your edit—it wasn't even accurate. If the source says "Dinosaur", then it should be interpreted that way, not as "Archosauromorphic", which is your interpretation and therefore OR. Anyway, this won't get anywhere here, so let's continue it at Talk:Recurring enemies in The Legend of Zelda series. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 14:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Talkback template
Is there an actual reply to go with this? Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 01:09, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * There will be if you'll give me a second. Now I have to start all over because of an edit conflict. McJeff (talk) 01:10, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Tucker Max
Hi, thanks a lot for helping by telling me what was wrong with my edit to the Tucker Max article. However, I have a couple questions. You said I'd need a third party source, so besides him saying it on his website would a link to a YouTube video count? Also, I've noticed than on the article about Maddox (writer) it says the same thing (about him being on a radio show with Tucker Max), and cites Tucker Max's website as a source. Should this be removed? I would greatly appreciate it if you could answer my questions so I could learn more about Wikipedia and contributing to it. Thanks. Hey Cisco (talk) 19:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, Maddox recently appeared on an Internet show called Dock Mock's Movie Mausoleum. On the website of this show there is an archived video of the episode with Maddox with it.  I noticed nobody has added this to the Maddox article.  Since Dock Mock's website has an archived video, is it a good enough source?  I would really appreciate it if you could tell me.  Thanks again and sorry for all the annoying questions. Hey Cisco (talk) 19:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, I just wanted to say thanks a lot for helping me out with Tucker Max and answering all my questions =]. Also, I searched the net and I think I might have found some more sources so I'll be asking WP:RSN for help.  Thanks again, Hey Cisco (talk) 10:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Agree with your change, but...
I agree with the change you made at this diff, but I want to drop a line because you cited WP:N in the edit summary. Although I'd hope we only cover notable stuff (in the plain English definition of notable) within articles, the standard for standalone articles that we call "notability" specifically does not limit article content. In some ways it's a minor thing, so it's just something to be careful about. Happy editing! Croctotheface (talk) 04:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * My mistake, I was thinking of BLP articles when I made that edit. I'd removed the same text from the Bernard Goldberg shortly before.  Thanks for the heads up. McJeff (talk) 05:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Happy Bastille Day!
Dear fellow Wikipedian, on behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just want to wish you a Happy Bastille Day, whether you are French, Republican or not! :) Happy Editing!  Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 23:19, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Smithsonian Institution Wiki Edits
Thanks for the suggestion McJeff - I posted a few suggestions/edit to the Smithsonian's talk page. I'm new to editing, how do I know if my edits are "approved" by other editors? Is there a certain amount of time my suggestions for the edits need to be posted to the talk page before I know if Wikipedia has approved the edits? Thanks! (Smithsonianinstitution (talk) 15:54, 17 July 2009 (UTC))