User talk:Mccapra/Archive 15

Draft:List of historical monuments in Qatar
Hi, Mccapara We are participating on a voluntary basis - wiki loves monuments in Qatar for the first time in the principality, this will really depress the organizers And it is not good to have this list in draft we organize the last week of october a phototalk and we need to improve this list and relay it. how many references for this aryicle page should be accepted? i understand tho policies, i'm expert in WpAa but not in WpEn, but can you help me? thanks Bachounda (talk) 21:20, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * hi - the draft article doesn’t have any sources at all. I guess there must be an official government list of monuments, or citations from tour guides….. anything really, but we can’t have an article published in main space with no sources at all. All the best Mccapra (talk) 21:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That's true, I had thought I had added I realize I had done it in wikipedia Arabic only lol
 * I will find reliable sources and I will come back to you, if you please :) --Bachounda (talk) 21:43, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi again, sorry for the typo's, Would you like to check Draft:List of historical monuments in Qatar if these links are appropriate and that the article can be submitted for review? cheers --Bachounda (talk) 22:12, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * the sourcing is now sufficient but unfortunately the page is also a copyright violation (see this). It needs to be completely rewritten as parts of it are clearly cut and pasted from another place. Once that is done I will request revision deletion to expunge the copyvio versions and it can come back into mainspace. The text descriptions are much too long for a table format anyway. That level of detail is appropriate for a full article rather than a summary table. Mccapra (talk) 06:45, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Great thanks, i will remove the CW text today Bachounda (talk) 08:11, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Wrong label
Hi, I created Reza Tajbakhsh's article with a question from the previous deletion management. It has been two years since the previous poll, and the person is currently famous.Please remove the label--Modeling (talk) 11:40, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Request for Review
Hi, I'm Contrahunter. i wanted to publish the page Draft:Joe Paul (lyricist). on time you rejected my request. i am updated all news links. is there any questions to update this page ask me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contrahunter (talk • contribs) 06:35, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * thanks for your message and for working on this. As I previously sent it to draft I think it would be helpful to have another editor review it, so I have added it to the queue of articles for creation.  Someone will look at it fairly soon and give a view on whether it is ready to come back into mainspace.  All the best Mccapra (talk) 09:05, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Contrahunter (talk) 19:43, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi
Hey, can you move this page to article space? Draft:Ensonhaber This is a Turkish news site known for its Alexa 402 ranking and there are sources that talked about it like BBC and Hürriyet Daily News And he won a local award in 2019 --Turkish Wikipedian TR (talk) 07:18, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

plant resources
I'd be interested in hearing your reply to my comment here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kku# Thank you. -- Kku (talk) 08:51, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Tags
Please be careful — there was no unreferenced content at Gazochak. TrangaBellam (talk) 21:45, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * there was a single source, which is not sufficient to demonstrate notability. Mccapra (talk) 21:47, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You were not adding a notability tag.
 * That being said, are you aware of WP:GEOLAND which presumes the notability of [p]opulated, legally recognized places? Or WP:PLACEOUTCOMES which says, Cities and villages anywhere in the world are generally kept, regardless of size or length of existence, as long as that existence can be verified through a reliable source. TrangaBellam (talk) 21:53, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, those refer to what happens at AfD, but thus article wasn’t at AfD. We use tags to encourage other editors to improve sourcing. Mccapra (talk) 22:09, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, those refer to what happens at AfD, but thus article wasn’t at AfD. We use tags to encourage other editors to improve sourcing. Mccapra (talk) 22:09, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

You need to get your tags correct - see Template:One source. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:51, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

London 176 meetup
Hello, I am very new to Wikipedia editing and saw on Wikimedia there is an event in London for which you have put your name down. Is it a formal event, and will it be easy to know who and where to go? Apologies if I have asked this in the wrong place.DannyHatcher (talk) 14:34, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * hi thanks for your message. It would be great if you can join us. It’s not at all formal. The meeting is in a Wetherspoons pub which is very large. Some of us have lunch there. Our usual place is inside, directly in front of the main door. People come and go all afternoon depending on what else they’re doing so it’s like a long drop in session. We’re fairly easy to spot as we all look fairly nerdy (surprise) and some of us bring our computers. We talk about what we’re working on, discuss how to do things, and have the occasional moan. There are usually 6-12 people at any one time. Do you live in London and do you know how to get there? Mccapra (talk) 19:32, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That sounds like I will fit in. I live in Eastbourne so London isn't too far away, and I added the event to my Gcal so it gave me a location. Assuming the location is correct I should be able to make my way there, and as I would be travelling up for the day I might as well make the most of it and stay as long as there is a conversation.DannyHatcher (talk) 19:39, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * great {I’m from Seaford btw}. The Penderel Oak is about halfway between Holborn and Chancery Lane tube stations. Mccapra (talk) 19:49, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ah that is close. I will probably get the 10am train up and navigate my way there.DannyHatcher (talk) 20:08, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Your suggestion
Hi. Recently, I've taken an article Dumero to AfD. But creator of the article closed the AfD themselves as keep. How should I deal with that, since it's the first time I encountered. Shall I take AfD second time or reopen it? Thank you. Htanaungg (talk) 14:06, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * hi that’s definitely an improper close, so I think your choices are either 1. tell an admin like Rosguill or Barkeep, or 2. Report it at deletion review. Good luck Mccapra (talk) 14:27, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Another reviewer from the same nation with the creator has reverted their edit and reopened the discussion again, so I'll turn a blind eye this time, just giving a warning at their talk page. And, thank you for very useful advice. I now know how to deal with such stuff. 😊 Htanaungg (talk) 14:45, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello
Hi, I noticed you nominated the article Holics (comedian) for deletion. I'm not against that, as you know why but I think you didn't sufficiently explain why it should be deleted and would be glad if you explain it to me. Also, per my understanding and from my point of view, I think the article should be kept since the sources provided are reliable sources, and the page could be improved. I would be glad if you remove the tag so that the page can be improved Thank you -- Robertjamal12   (talk)  09:17, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * hi thanks for your message. Once a deletion discussion has started it runs for a week in most cases and the community evaluates the case for deletion. Articles require in depth coverage in multiple reliable sources and this article doesn’t have that. If you have other sources, you can add them while the discussion is going on. Thanks Mccapra (talk) 11:03, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * , I clearly understand, The Article is a stub and more than one reliable source was cited in the article so I don't get the multiple reliable sources that the article you nominated for deletion lack, because more than two sources were cited and they are all reliable. Anyways, it's best we all reach a consensus in the discussion. Thank you -- Robertjamal12   (talk)  14:16, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you reviewed
Hello, Mccapra

Thank you for creating Virgin of the Passion.

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 * thanks I should have spotted that. I’ll take it up with the creator. Mccapra (talk) 14:16, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Pls properly tag the pages
Can you stop mass creating article from the genus Lobophytum? I think you should stop a add and assess in the wikiproject tags.Leomk (Don't shout here, Shout here!)  07:45, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * hi I’m not the article creator. I add WikiProject tags for every page I review and project members can rate them at any time. Mccapra (talk) 07:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Contest for speedy deletion
Please remove speedy deletion for shivani Rajasekhar article. THE CINE DETECTIVE (talk) 08:14, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I see you’ve objected to the deletion on the article talk page, so now we leave it for admin review. Thanks Mccapra (talk) 08:19, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Satish Chandra (state commissioner)
I suspect that this article is created for undisclosed paymemt, But I have no evidence other than a hunch. what can be done? I cannot imagine anyone creating these deleted articles --Venkat TL (talk) 12:17, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * you may well be right. The only advice I could give you is to tell an admin like Rosguill, Barkeep49. Celestina007 may also be able to help. Mccapra (talk) 12:46, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Bar Council of Jharkhand and Bar Council articles
Hi Mccapra. Thanks for reviewing this article and series of articles on Bar Council. India is a country with union of states and union territories. These states and union territories has to abide by the Constitution of India. Though the provisions are similar for each state, it varies on many principles as per Bar Council policies in each state. Also the Bar Council details for each of these states are different. Request you to guide me to get the series of articles on Bar Council for various states in main space as the information provided in each of these articles are of interest to general public. Thank you again. Gardenkur (talk) 02:45, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Bar Council of West Bengal
Hi Mccapra. As suggested by you I added some more relevant references in this article and submitted for review to be moved to main space. Could you please review and approve. Thanks in advance. Gardenkur (talk) 04:26, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Bar Council of Maharashtra and Goa
Hi Mccapra. Thanks for your time and efforts for reviewing few of my articles and providing me with feedback. Accordingly added summary and references to this article. Request your support in moving it to main space. Gardenkur (talk) 05:45, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Bar Council of Jharkhand
Hi Mccapra. As suggested by you I added some more relevant references in this article and submitted for review to be moved to main space. Could you please review and approve. Thanks in advance. Gardenkur
 * thanks for working on these I’ll look at them this evening. Mccapra (talk) 12:00, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Bar Council of Madhya Pradesh
Hi Mccapra. As suggested by you I added some more relevant references in this article and submitted for review to be moved to main space. Could you please review and approve. Thanks in advance. Gardenkur
 * I see you’ve added more sources about the relevant bar council to each article, which is good. However you haven’t addressed the fundamental problem which is that each article is full of references that have nothing to do with the subject at all. To support your article on Madhya Pradesh you have sources talking about Bihar, Tamil Nadu, Gujarat, Delhi etc. This isn’t acceptable because what you’re effectively saying is “because X happened in Delhi we can infer that it is also true of Madhya Pradesh’ and Wikipedia isn’t written that way. If you’re writing about Madhya Pradesh you may only use sources that talk about Madhya Pradesh, and you need to remove any material supported by references to bar councils in other states. Thanks Mccapra (talk) 03:57, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Bar Council of Madhya Pradesh
Hi Mccapra. Got your feedback. The objective of Bar Council across all states in India is same. However there are minor variations made by council. As relevant references for these objectives are needed so I kept references from other states of India in case I didn't find it from same state. I also observed the same in other articles in Wikipedia where principle is universal. Kindly guide me if Iam wrong. Thanks in advance. Gardenkur (talk) 04:29, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
 * yes I’m afraid you are wrong. There hasn’t really anything else I can tell you. You can wait for your drafts to go through review where you may get a different view, but it’s clear to me that the articles as you’ve written them don’t belong in encyclopedia mainspace. Mccapra (talk) 04:33, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Mccapra. Thanks for your time and efforts. Before it gets reviewed I will clear those which are for other places. But hope it can stay in draft awaiting submission stage. Thanks again. Gardenkur (talk) 04:37, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Making a project
Hi hope you are well. I believe we had a discussion about the sports wikiproject and I was wondering if you could share your thoughts about me making a wikiproject for sport science? All I can find is a category for sport science articles. The sports project is very stats in history focused. Thanks DannyHatcher (talk) 14:53, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I recall this being discussed at London nine days ago. Proposals for new WikiProjects should go through WP:COUNCIL. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 15:11, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, yes it was briefly brought up. Thank you for sharing that link, I will do some more exploration and go through the appropriate channels. DannyHatcher (talk) 15:18, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * hi I hope all is well. Trying to get a new WikiProject off the ground is a major undertaking. You’d need a solid body of volunteers willing to consistently put time into it, and probably some technical knowledge of how to create templates etc. that I certainly don’t have though many others do. My suggestion would be that rather than trying to start a whole WikiProject, you join WikiProject Health and fitness and start familiarizing yourself with the tasks a WikiProject involves - tagging articles, rating them, etc. once you’re up to speed with all of that and have got to know the other editors there a bit, you could try setting up a work group within the project, and if that attracts enough editors and finds or makes enough work for itself, then that group of editors may want to form an entire separate WikiProject. Everything in Wikipedia happens slowly and organically. Mccapra (talk) 04:50, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

deleting somya daundkar
why are deleting that page Shaiksuhana2 (talk) 12:30, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
 * because it’s rubbish. This is an encyclopedia. Mccapra (talk) 14:12, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Battle of Fornovo
Hello, I would like to point out that the page battle of Fornovo has been recently hijacked by a user, “Kansas Bear”, who rewrote it with a very clear bias. While most sources (including several he himself cited in the discussion held in the talk page) describe the outcome of the battle as either inconclusive, disputed, or at best a hard-fought French tactical victory which allowed Charles to save his army from encirclement and destruction, this user has presented it as a “French triumph”, with Italian troops being scattered and destroyed in a few minutes (whereas all sources state that the fighting lasted all day), omitting the fact that the entire loot and baggage train of the French army were captured by the Italian league and that Charles quietly withdrew at night during a truce that had been called to bury the dead, hardly the behaviour of someone who had “triumphed”. Additionally, this user has cherry-picked a single source claiming a ridiculously low casualty figure for the French (only 100 killed vs 3,500 on the Italian side) when all sources agree that, while French casualties were lower than those suffered by the Italians, were no less than one thousand in the most optimistic estimate (likewise, the high end estimates have been picked for the Italian stength, which ranged betwen 14,000 and 20,000 but is here presented as 20,000). This user has either ignored or removed all sources that don’t fit his narrative (that is, most), reverted all edits adding more sources and details, and refused, in the past, any discussion about the edit he has done. Can anything be done about it? Could you help in any way? Before you tell me to try to discuss with him or to report him for edit war (which describes his activity extremely well), I will tell you that I won’t, for a very simple reason: the former would be pointless – others have already tried discussing with him on the talk page, to no avail – and the latter as well, as I know well this kind of user, who has been disgracefully made into an admin for unexplainable reasons. He will keep reverting, secure the support of some other admin friend, game the rules to his own advantage, and avoid any discussion or change from his edits, instead having me banned. I know very well this will happen, and in that case, that will be the end of my activity here, for I am tired of seeing an individual being allowed to blatantly violate Wikipedia’s rules and make a travesty of history at his whim. --Jannizzero1 (talk) 22:55, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * hi thanks for your note. This kind of problem is common on Wikipedia, and as you know, content disputes have to be decided by consensus. That’s an imperfect mechanism because consensus is determined largely by who shows up and shouts loudest. Consensus also changes over time. That’s why we say Wikipedia is based on reliable sources but isn’t itself a reliable source. I understand you don’t want to get into a stupid dispute - that’s good. I know you produce a lot of good articles so don’t take it personally or get frustrated, and I hope you recover your motivation to keep doing good work. Mccapra (talk) 21:12, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your participation in the November 2021 New Pages Patrol drive
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  12:11, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Cormac Laidir MacCarthy, 9th Lord of Muskerry
Dear Mccapra. Please accept my apologies for having proceded so strangley for my additions to the article Cormac MacCarthy, which I wanted to rename to Cormac Laidir MacCarthy, 9th Lord of Muskerry. To do this I created a new Cormac Laidir MacCarthy, 9th Lord of Muskerry and mad the original article a redirect to ythe new one, but then I realised that doing so I lost the history. Thanks for your help. Johannes Schade (talk) 08:44, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

HMS Valerian
You have tagged the article HMS Valerian (1916) "This article or section may have been copied and pasted from another location, possibly in violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Please review https://doczz.net/doc/6490803/the-usher-family-in-scotland-internet-release (DupDet · CopyVios) and remedy this by editing this article to remove any non-free copyrighted content and attributing free content correctly, or flagging the content for deletion. Please be sure that the supposed source of the copyright violation is not itself a Wikipedia mirror. (December 2021)". I have never visited the linked page, and certainly never copied and pasted from it. Visiting it now, I see that it contains the court martial report, which it is not the source for. I transcribed the report manually many years ago and previously published it on my own geocities website. That report is in the public domain, and is referenced in the article. Kindly remove the tag you have placed on the article.Aodhdubh (talk) 05:03, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Articles for deletion
Hi, you have reviewed my articles often. It is alleged that I am a bot/semi-bot. The second objection is that I do all the articles... myself. If you can look here and leave a comment, I would be grateful. ThWiki1910 12:25, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Walter Korpi
Hi, check if it's "understandable" right now..--Mcapdevila (talk) 12:09, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

MotoGP eSport Championship
Hi, I noticed that you draftified MotoGP eSport Championship. The creator of that article also created articles for the the 2020 and 2021 seasons of the competition. Normally I would redirect the seasons to the main article, but since it is in draftspace I went ahead and started an AfD for the individual seasons. Discussion is at Articles for deletion/2021 MotoGP eSports Championship if you would like to comment. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 07:31, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Speedy deletion of Page Shanu Kumar
Hii! I saw that you placed the tag on Shanu Kumar for speedy deletion. However, I created the article after researching it. The article is about an actor. I'm finding more references that I'll add later.
 * Bloody sockpuppets. Mccapra (talk) 12:25, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
I’m not sophisticated enough to be able to make virtual cards but thank you very much and best wishes to you too. Mccapra (talk) 23:00, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Re: Ahitub (father of Zadok) moved to draftspace
Hi Mccapra. In fact, as you can see from the page history, Ahitub (father of Zadok) wasn't an article of mine. I only moved content already existent in Ahitub disambiguation, in order to clean the disambiguation page and to link this content with the correct Wikidata item. --BohemianRhapsody (talk) 08:45, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Have a happy Christmas and New Year
Happy Holidays text.png Hello Mccapra: Enjoy the holiday season&#32;and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, JW 1961 Talk 11:45, 23 December 2021 (UTC) Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message
 * thank you that’s very kind and I wish the same to you. I owe you thanks for keeping me going last month on the backlog drive where I had to scramble to keep ahead of you before collapsing in an exhausted heap but I see you’ve got more stamina than me and are still powering ahead. More power you! BTW did you watch the winter solstice at Newgrange on live feed? No luck this year with just and rain but I love it anyway. Take care and best wishes for 2022. Mccapra (talk) 12:03, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Strange thing is I think more visitors than Irish people visit Newgrange for the solstice. I knew I wasn't going to catch up with you as I was (mostly) looking at sports biographies and they tend to come and go as competitions are in progress - I had intended to slow right down after that drive but, alas, there were a glut of those articles since the end of November (I guess there's always something that keeps drawing us back and clicking on page curation!) Stay safe  JW 1961 Talk 13:34, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
thank you very much and I look forward to seeing you in the New Year. Best Wishes for 2022! Mccapra (talk) 12:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
thank you very much and best wishes to you too. I look forward to working with you in 2022. All the best! Mccapra (talk) 21:43, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

New message from 747pilot
747pilot (talk) 23:56, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

The Jews of Leeds
I moved the page to Jews in Leeds but the old page still shows up. Should this old page The Jews of Leeds be deleted as it's duplicated? 16:31, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I’ve redirected the old title to the new one. Please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~). Mccapra (talk) 16:35, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how, but whilst the move carried out by at 16:18, 26 December 2021 was valid, leaving behind an appropriate redirect, subsequent edits by  have had the effect of attaching the content to the wrong page history.  and Mccapra have made a start at fixing it, but we now seem to have a WP:CUTPASTE situation, it might be best to bring in, who is an expert on fixing up split histories. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 11:32, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I’m not completely clear how we ended up with this but we certainly seem to need admin help. Mccapra (talk) 12:31, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy holidays!
thank you and best wishes to you too! Mccapra (talk) 20:42, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Rakuyou
Nope, I give up. Fighting yall on this isn’t my style. I’m just gonna go with Generasia since they have COMPLETE discographies for J-Pop artists there. Oh and, it does meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines as it charted in JAPAN, its country of origin, and most sources about it are thusly in Japanese, including Oricon and Billboard, both of which are considered reliable as per https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Online_reliable_sources#General.NickWX28 (talk) 22:38, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * if it’s notable, great. Add sources that show it is. Wikipedia isn’t a guessing game.

Excuse myself but...
I need to ask you about something. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 00:17, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * sure go ahead. Mccapra (talk) 00:18, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * We have a article of heads of state in monarchies but I am not too sure if an article dedicated to heads of state in republics would be good for creation. I do know it might be notable because unlike heads of government (since they had no differences), there are many differences between heads of state in monarchies and heads of state in republics and the topic of heads of state in republics has been discussed all over the media such as the internet and books. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 00:23, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * My advice would be not to create it. There are relatively few monarchies so listing their heads of state makes sense. They don’t change often and the list is easy to keep up to date. Listing heads of state of republics will produce a giant list of 100+ heads of state, constantly changing and hard to maintain. And in any case, what’s really the point of it? Who wants to find this specific sub-categorisation of heads of state? What encyclopedic purpose does such a list serve? Recent AfD debates have deleted a lot of cross-categorisation lists of political leaders, and the general view is that they don’t belong on Wikipedia. If you’re interested in building lists you might find that there isn’t yet a list for prime ministers of every country. If the list is small it should just be included in the main article about that country’s prime ministership, but if the list is too long for that, a separate list article is fine. Mccapra (talk) 00:33, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Mccapra!


Happy New Year! Mccapra, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

John B123 (talk) 17:15, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * Thank you very much and best wishes to you for 2022! Mccapra (talk) 18:02, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Mccapra!


Happy New Year! Mccapra, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

Abishe (talk) 15:29, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * Thank you so much and all my best wishes to you too for 2022! Mccapra (talk) 18:03, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Highway Performance Monitoring System
Given that the text I wrote was quoted from the Federal High Way Administration HPMS page, I'm not sure a more reliable source exists. Congress passes a law, and tell FHWA to write associated regs, FHWA writes them, they get posted in the Federal Record, and are considered part of Federal Administrative law. FHWA then posts a summary to their webpage, which is what I cited. Theblindsage (talk) 19:18, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

SOKO
Do you believe CSI (franchise) quotes mostly reliable independet sources? I may also quote similar trash for the SOKO, but why?Xx236 (talk) 12:53, 5 January 2022 (UTC) SOKO München does not quote any source. Will you transfer it to Draft space? Xx236 (talk) 12:57, 5 January 2022 (UTC) I have not created the page 'recently', but almost two months ago.Xx236 (talk) 12:59, 5 January 2022 (UTC) Solo für Sudmann is hardly a draft since 2011. Xx236 (talk) 13:00, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message. As a new page reviewer I look at new articles as they appear in the new pages queue. I’m aware that there is plenty of other unsourced or poorly-sourced rubbish on Wikipedia but my task is to prevent more of it, not to deal with all the existing weak articles first. Adding reliable independent sources to a newly created article isn’t “trash”, it’s a fundamental of a reliable encyclopedia. But since you’re a new page reviewer yourself, you’re no doubt aware of all of this already. Mccapra (talk) 00:36, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Bar Council Articles
Hello Mccapra. Hope you are doing well. It has been some weeks since I amended below Bar Council articles as suggested by you. Since they are topics with wide interests and to help clean the queue from the draft space, I take this opportunity to request you to kindly approve them for main space.

1. Bar Council of Tamilnadu and Pondicherry.

2. Bar Council of Delhi.

3. Bar Council of Bihar.

4. Bar Council of Himachal Pradesh.

5. Bar Council of Madhya Pradesh.

6. Bar Council of Kerala.

7. Bar Council of West Bengal.

8. Bar Council of Uttar Pradesh.

9. Bar Council of Uttarakhand

Kindly let me know in case of any suggestions to make them better. Thanks in advance. Gardenkur (talk) 05:55, 7 January 2022 (UTC)


 * hi thanks for working on these. I’ve moved the Tamil Nadu article back to mainspace but before I do any more there are a couple of problems still to resolve to do with copyright. First, the articles you created are all variations in a single model text, meaning that they’re largely copied from one to another. You can do that but you have to make clear where that text comes from. To do this you need to go to the talk page of each of your articles and add a text like “the text of this article reuses material from….. and then link to the very first article you published in the bar council series. That way there is a proper attribution of the text.


 * The second problem is that the Delhi article carries a copyright violation tag on it. At the moment I can’t access the link it contains and I can’t get the Wikipedia copyright detector tool to load properly either. Until I can check this out I’m not going to move any more drafts. Obviously if one of them is a copyright violation they all are because of the way you created them, so I need to be sure they aren't before proceeding. All the best Mccapra (talk) 06:30, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello Mccapra. Thanks a lot for your time and efforts in suggesting the above method. Will do as you have guided and revert back to you. However, need to check on first article on the series of Bar Council Articles. However will add link from the best ones which got assessed. Hope that works. Have a nice day. Gardenkur (talk) 07:13, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Mccapra. As guided by you, I have added text to Bar Council of Bihar. If you feel this is the correct, will proceed and add to the rest. Also regarding Bar Council of Delhi, the mistake happened inadvertently in one particular place which I later checked and corrected it. However you can review and approve. Thanking for the guidance till now. Have a nice day. Gardenkur (talk) 11:08, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * hi your text is fine to use in the other article talk pages and the copyvio check had come up clean. Good work. Mccapra (talk) 21:51, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello Mccapra, I sincerely thank you for your time and efforts for approving all articles for main space. I wish you Belated New Year Greetings too and hope to continue association with you in improving Wikipedia forum. Thanks. Gardenkur (talk) 02:36, 8 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks and best wishes to you too. Mccapra (talk) 08:32, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Our article
Hi! I saw you said we didn't add any references/sources on Encanto Character List but we did try to put sources- we put the movie and soundtrack at the bottom, we weren't sure how to link them though. Thank you for taking the time to read this notice! (: -Isabela Skeleton RemusSandersRegretsEverything (talkpronouns 21:18, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * thanks for the memories! Mccapra (talk) 11:57, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing my page

 * Thank you a lot for reviewing my page Virgo Prudentissima (Heinrich Isaac).--Deamonpen (talk) 01:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Consumers Association of Penang
Who do I need to talk to to explain why I believe the article is relevant? .. as for the references, there are some in the article itself - Joaquin89uy (talk) 23:20, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * hi what you need to do is find sources for the article which are independent of the subject, like news items in mainstream press, coverage in consumer titles etc. The notability of the subject us determined by these. All the best Mccapra (talk) 07:36, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Paul Han
Excuse me, Utah & Ether has an article, why can't Paul Han? They are both graffiti artists and have been covered by several reliable sources. 1.36.41.78 (talk) 08:24, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Articles require multiple independent sources and a single news piece does not demonstrate notability. Mccapra (talk) 08:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Draftifying a split
I wonder if you had noticed the previous edit summary before you moved that article to draftspace. The content has been in the Candlepin bowling article for years. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:18, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi thanks for your note. I didn’t spot that I’m afraid. Has that content been unsourced in the previous article for over a decade? Mccapra (talk) 07:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * In the version just before the split, it appears that there was one inline citation in the section. Some sources in that article (e.g., "A year-by-year history of candlepin bowling") also happen to contain information that verifies some of the content, even though they aren't cited in that section. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:52, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks to be honest I’m kind of mystified by the whole thing - the split, the fact that the split article originally had sources but also copyvio issues, and ended up unsourced. Anyway whatever is going on it’s sat for two months with no sources in mainspace so it can’t stay there. Mccapra (talk) 21:08, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * it’s sat for two months with no sources in mainspace so it can’t stay there
 * Why not? WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Because we don’t host unreferenced articles in mainspace. Mccapra (talk) 05:33, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Where is that rule written down? WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:V Mccapra (talk) 17:10, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I find no sentence that says that there. Can you find a specific sentence/paragraph there that says unreferenced articles are not permitted in the mainspace? WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:45, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

No indeed not, those are my words. It says verifiability is a core principle and that unsourced material should be removed. Mccapra (talk) 14:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)


 * WP:V does not say that unsourced material "should" be removed.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:05, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes you’re right. Mccapra (talk) 17:17, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Are we agreed that there is no rule against hosting unreferenced articles in the mainspace? WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * That there isn’t a specific rule, yes we are. Nevertheless WP:V makes clear that sources are required. In addition WP:NPPDRAFT says that an article may be sent to draft the topic has some potential merit, and does not meet the required standard, and there is no evidence of active improvement. Mccapra (talk) 18:41, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:V does not make it clear that sources are required. WP:V makes it clear that it must be possible to add sources.  Content must be verifiABLE, not verifiED. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:43, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * More precisely, WP:V does not require sources for anything except WP:MINREF material (and one of the four categories is actually from BLP rather than WP:V itself). If you are looking at an article that says something like "Laurence Olivier was an actor", then there is no WP:V violation even if there is nothing else on the page at all. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:48, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Well I don’t think that’s what “The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution” means. Mccapra (talk) 21:36, 26 February 2022 (UTC)


 * That says who should add sources, but it does not say that the unsourced material "should" be removed from the mainspace until that duty has been performed. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:44, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Edward Asare
Just been looking at Articles for deletion/Edward Asare. I was on the verge of speedy deleting it as a G11 when I saw there had been a discussion. I find it unbelievable that so many apparently genuine editors voted to keep and there were no dissenting voices except yours. There may have been some off-wiki canvassing. For now, all I can do is tag it as advertising - which it clearly is. Deb (talk) 14:00, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks it was a pretty surreal AfD discussion but I guess consensus is mainly determined by who shows up! Mccapra (talk) 18:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Good article reassessment of NATO page
NATO has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Morgoonki (talk) 10:59, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thank you for reviewing the Luisenthal Mine Disaster page. I really appreciate it.

Weissepedia (talk) 00:47, 6 March 2022 (UTC) 

Request
Hi! Thanks for reviewing. Could you please also look at other articles which are created by me today? Kind regards. Kadı   Message   11:22, 12 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi again, I added some book sources. Could you please check it again? Kind regards. Kadı    Message   13:10, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Review Request
Hey there, hope you're well, could you please review an article I created, Ghosty?

I'll appreciate Cheers --XR98 (talk) 02:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I’ve had a look but the article isn’t about a topic I normally review in. It’s very detailed and it will take a lot of time for a reviewer to check all the sources. Mccapra (talk) 07:13, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Article on Vega Alta, Cuba
Hey, I have the source of where I got the information, but I don’t know how to source it. Thank you have a nice day. CubanoBoi (talk) 23:13, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ok if you share the link here I’ll add it in. If you want to create articles you need to learn how to add sources. Please see WP:CITE for guidance. Mccapra (talk) 04:33, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * They say I don’t know how to source it, so I would suggest WP:REFBEGIN. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:32, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Request
Hi, could you please review my new article, Ashraf Sobhy? Regards Karim185.3 (talk) 03:26, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * done. Mccapra (talk) 07:10, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks so much Karim185.3 (talk) 07:13, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

could you review Yasmin Ali too? Karim185.3 (talk) 16:46, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Notability
I saw that you tagged one of the page that i created doesn't meet the notability. I just want to know that what are the notability guidelines (I think i know that) required for the elected Mayor of Sub-Metropolitan City? Can you please elaborate? Owlf  📪  15:34, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * hi the relevant notability guideline is [|here] - mayors of sub-metropolitan cities won’t usually be notable. Regards Mccapra (talk) 18:50, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

He has received well coverage and in that case it can be notable. Thanks for your kind information but i created the pages after reading the guidelines. Regards,  Owlf   📪  18:55, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently Special:ListUsers/patroller New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing on their talk page.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

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Drafts
I ask you not to use my drafts to create articles because those articles will be transferred to a new draft when they find them very poor or they ask me for citations and things become more serious complicated for me.--BrugesFR (talk) 22:28, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

But thanks for your intentions--BrugesFR (talk) 22:28, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

But it is appreciated your contribution :D
 * hi I wonder if you left me this message by mistake? I don’t believe I sent any of your articles to draft, or worked on any of your drafts. All the best Mccapra (talk) 04:28, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Church of Nuestra Señora de la Candelaria, Bogotá
Tell me what are the proper references that I don't understand, all of them are well referenced and as far as I could.--BrugesFR (talk) 13:19, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * hi there are nine entire paragraphs in the article that have no references at all. The tag is on the article to encourage editors to support the text with references where they’re missing. All the best. Mccapra (talk) 15:34, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Toufik Boushaki
Hello. I cordially ask you to copy in my Sandbox the article on the energy researcher Toufik Boushaki which was deleted on May 20, 2021 at 10:39. Cordially. --Authentise (talk) 13:22, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I’m sorry but I’m not an admin so I don’t have access to deleted material. User:Rosguill or User:Barkeep49 may be able to help you. All the best Mccapra (talk) 13:28, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Page Triage
Hello @Mccapra I hope you're doing well. Can you review Fear Factor: Khatron Ke Khiladi 12 article. Thanks for your consideration. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 14:13, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Tagged the article "Edward F. Holland" as an orphan
Hello!! You tagged the article I recently made "Edward F. Holland" as an orphaned article. I've un-orphaned the article by adding a link in V. Susan Sosnowski's page. Would you mind removing the tag? I know it's not a LOT of links, but I can't really think of where else to add one, until I make a page for his predecessor, Walter Gray. SusImposter49 (talk) 22:11, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


 * thank you for responding so fast <333 SusImposter49 (talk) 22:13, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Please help me delete the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immediate_Geographic_Region_of_S%C3%A3o_Jo%C3%A3o_del_Rei
Hello!

The article has a mistake. The correct one is this.

Thanks!Gondolabúrguer (talk) 06:14, 23 June 2022 (UTC)


 * hi I see another editor has already redirected it so problem solved! Mccapra (talk) 17:52, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Gondolabúrguer (talk) 22:50, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
 * Backlog status

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
 * Backlog drive

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
 * TIP – New school articles

There is a new template available,, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
 * Misc

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.


 * Reminders
 * Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
 * If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing on their talk page.
 * If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
 * To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.
 * Notes

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:01, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Saadoun Ghaydan
Hello Mccapra. Apparently, there is already an article under the name Saadoun Ghaidan. Can this one be deleted? Suren01 (talk) 08:58, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * ok I’ll redirect it. Mccapra (talk) 13:08, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

List of Orange County bike paths
I’m not interested in improving or maintaining Draft:List of Orange County bike paths beyond its current rudimentary framework state. You are welcome to delete it in its entirety. Thank you for your efforts. jengod (talk) 02:49, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Russian classical dance
Hi Mccapra, I wanted remind you that the term "classical dance" could also mean traditional dances and it is used very heavily to describe these dances. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 03:19, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Follow up to the Russian classical dance
As I cannot speak Russian, I may had to ask a Russian speaking user or a Russian user or a user who studied Russian culture. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 16:39, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Reviewed unsourced BLP?
Hi, it looks as if you marked Karim Baylak-oolovich Sagaan-ool as reviewed, even though it was an unsourced BLP. Fram (talk) 09:15, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * hi yes I did because the ru.wiki article indicated that he had been Minister of Energy in the Republic of Tyva, which would make him notable, and also had adequate references. I should probably have added the 'sources exist' tag as well.  Mccapra (talk) 14:26, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, no, unsourced BLPs are never acceptable, full stop. That's why we have a special Prod system for them. Fram (talk) 14:56, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Hiroshi Nakamura
Sorry for the rollback on Hiroshi Nakamura (architect), looks like the duplication you were addressing was caused when someone overwrite the disambig page with the architect's info. I've restored both the disambig and the architect article to their state before that happened. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 18:37, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * great thanks for letting me know. I couldn’t quite figure out what had happened there. Mccapra (talk) 20:08, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I spent way too long scratching my head trying to figure out what was up with it. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 20:14, 19 July 2022 (UTC)