User talk:Mchwhee

Verifiability
Hello Mchwhee. What would make Wikipedia a truly useful resource is if the information within it is verifiable using reliable sources, and not just a bunch of stuff that random people think up that may or may not be true. It is supposed to be an encyclopedia, after all. Do not worry that the information in the previous bloated list is gone. It still exists in the history of the article, if you wish to access it. True, music is an auditory experience, but most people are not qualified to make an accurate conclusion about its time signature just by listening, and what one editor thinks is "unusual" many not seem unusual to others. That's why the list ought to be limited to what the reliable sources (reputably published critics, musicologists, and yes, sheet music) say on the matter. Lists cannot be improved unless reliable sources are insisted upon. Nick Graves 18:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Nick, I hate to say this, but you're wrong. And, to be blunt, the spirit of your response is an approach which fundamentally undermines how Wikipedia is a service to people. You make it harder to use Wikipedia, and less information is conveyed. The insistence on reliable sources for a topic such as this (for a list such as this) is inane. My ears are my sources, and I trust the ears of other posters. You are using the principle of sourcing, while I use the principle of small-scale, relevant editing. The old wiki worked my way. The new wiki is a pain in the ass and has lost meaning to me as a result. And, for many of the songs, there are no sources. Period. There's no critical review of much of this material, musicologists don't care about most rock that was cited there, and sheet music isn't sold for this kind of thing. So, by setting your requirements, you have removed information from easy access. Don't be silly on the use of the "history" button. Who would go looking for it, if they didn't know the information was once there? You are a source of what is wrong with Wikipedia these days, and I'm sorry you feel so high and might about it.