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Tech News: 2015-11
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now create books on almost all wikis. It doesn't work yet on wikis using the language converter.
 * VisualEditor had problems with categories in Safari. It sometimes moved or removed the categories. The issue is now fixed.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 10. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 11 (calendar).
 * In VisualEditor the "Edit beta" button is now called "Edit" on the English Wikipedia.
 * The feedback tool in VisualEditor now looks like the other tools. It also asks for information about your browser to help fix bugs.
 * You now see the VisualEditor toolbar even if the rest of the page is still loading.
 * You now see more information when you edit a link, a reference or other items in VisualEditor. You also see a clearer edit button in those tools.
 * If you use the ContentTranslation tool you now see red links in the list of articles in other languages. The link is red if the article doesn't exist in the language of your options or of your browser. You can translate the article by clicking on the red link.

Meetings
 * You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 11 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * You can join a technical meeting in France in May. You can ask for help if you can't pay yourself.

Future changes
 * You can get help to become a developer. You can learn more on the Google Summer of Code and Outreachy pages.
 * You will soon be able to read technical reports in Phabricator.

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DYK reviews
Hi, I saw your question on the DYK discussion page. After you review an article and approve it, you don't have to do anything more. (If more work is needed before approval, you'll just continue to be in touch with the nominator until the article is approved or rejected, or until you ask for another reviewer to look at it.) If you'd like to help out with building prep sets, please read Did you know/Preparation areas. You should not promote (move to prep) any article that you yourself created or reviewed.

I hope this helps. If you have other questions, please leave a note on my talk page. Best, Yoninah (talk) 10:20, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * thanks. I was just wondering more than anything if I needed to add it to any list just cause I have approved them, like I know some processes need. Just don't want to mess anything up too much :) Mdann52 (talk) 10:23, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No, you don't do anything after approval. It sits on the nominations page until someone else promotes it to a prep set. Yoninah (talk) 12:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Death By Cause Category nominations
Hello,

There is some confusion about whether you meant to include all subcategories in this nomination. If you need some help tagging them, I'm happy to help with Category:Deaths from disease. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:55, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought WP:NOTBURO and just mentioning it in the nomination would be enough.... I'll go through with AWB and do em all then. Mdann52 (talk) 10:39, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Inkubus Sukkubus
Hi I would Just like to mention that I found your editing of the Inkubus Sukkubus page a little over zealous. As far as I can see almost all of the material you have removed is both true and verifiable. I was wondering if you might reconsider reverting the page as soon as possible.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vampiredivision (talk • contribs) 21:33, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, the reason I reverted the edits was because they were not verified by an official, reliable source, and also was written in a non-neutral style. One quick question - are you related to the band in any way? Mdann52 (talk) 07:39, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi,Yes I am in the band, although I did not create this page and I am not sure who did, I also did not write most of the text that you have removed. I assume some of it was referenced from our website http://inkubussukkubus.com and possibly from The Hex Files:The Goth Bible by Mic Mercer ISBN 0-7134-8033-5 and other sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vampiredivision (talk • contribs) 10:34, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * In that case, per WP:PSCOI, I recommend you do not edit the article directly. At the end of the day, as this article conserns living people, we need to be causious, hence why I removed the information. As and when an independent editor finds sources for it, then it can be reinstated. Mdann52 (talk) 20:31, 14 March 2015 (UTC).

Hi

Thanks for illuminating me on that. I will not edit the page directly, unless for some as yet unforeseen reason of an extreme nature. Can you just clarify two issues that I would like, if you could, reiterated. just to ensure that I have understood them correctly.

1. I is not permissible for a person in a band or connected to a band to edit a page concerning that band, (This is because they may have a vested interest, in promoting the band in question, and this may exceed  the interests of Wikipedia.

2. Any information concerning a living person must be correctly sourced and referenced.

Thank you for your time.

6.69 pm.14 March 2015 Vampiredivision (talk) 18:47, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Correct - per 1) WP:PSCOI and 2) WP:BLP. Mdann52 (talk) 10:39, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-12
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The servers that resize images are using new software. You should report new problems that you notice with images.
 * You can now see lists of bugs about Commons, Wikisource and Wiktionary.
 * It is now easier to add special characters in VisualEditor. You can edit the list of characters for your wiki.

Problems
 * Wikis were broken for a few minutes on Thursday due to a code error.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 17. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 18 (calendar).
 * A puzzle piece icon (VisualEditor - Icon - Template-big.svg) now shows hidden templates in VisualEditor. You can edit the template by clicking the icon. For example, you can now edit anchor templates.
 * You can now add examples, and details about old parameters, in TemplateData.

Meetings
 * You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 18 at 23:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The list of bad user names on your wiki will no longer work. The global list will replace it. You can ask to add rules for bad user names on Meta.
 * You can comment on how you want to see Wikidata edits in your watchlist on other wikis.
 * The final steps of single user login (SUL) will happen in April. You can see the rules to rename accounts.

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Tech News: 2015-13
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes this week Meetings
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 18. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 24. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 25 (calendar).
 * The text of a reference is now more visible when you click on it. It has a blue background. Many wikis already have the blue color. Those wikis can now remove it from their CSS page.
 * VisualEditor is now much faster. For many users it is now at least as fast as the wikitext editor.
 * When you add a list of references in VisualEditor, you now see it right away. You can still change its group by editing it.
 * You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 25 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Talk pages using "LiquidThreads" on mediawiki.org will soon use the new system.

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Jagannaath @ K.P.Jagan
Hi there,

I see you removed the DB template from Jagannaath @ K.P.Jagan with the comment that it's not a disambiguation page. G6 doesn't only include disambiguation pages, but I'm not sure what the right reason for deletion should be: it's a redirect from a name that is unlikely ever to be used. The person in question is known as Jagannaath or as K.P. Jagan, and the at character is probably a non-standard way of separating the two. How should the deletion request have been worded? --Slashme (talk) 09:41, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


 * you tagged it with db-disambig, which is only for dab pages. In any case, WP:RfD may be the best venue to take this if it is an unlikely search term - as the article was created under this title, it is probably a bit too contentions to be dealt with under CSD criteria. Mdann52 (talk) 11:12, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks! --Slashme (talk) 11:13, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Hindu denominations
The text is attributed, quoted, and sourced. Are you sure it's a copyright violation? --Neil N  talk to me 17:01, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * fairly - a lot of this text has apparently been lifted, and is not PD or another suitable license - If it's rewritten then ok, aparently it is fairly word for word as my research suggests. Mdann52 (talk) 17:27, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The text outside the quotes has been lifted? --Neil N  talk to me 17:29, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The whole section has (or is very close to) copying the content of the book, yes - without a copy of the book, I'm having to judge this on the OTRS ticket I quoted here, which appears to indicate there is copyright issues with the whole content. Mdann52 (talk) 17:45, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. --Neil N  <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 17:48, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * In that case you may also have to revdel this edit of mine, of nearly two years ago... I had added references for every sentence, to make sure it was clear where it came from. But I was not aware of copy-vio implications when I added it in 2013. As far as I remember, I added even more quoatation-marks when I moved the info to "Hindu denominations." My apologies for the inconvenience... NB: I'd shortened the same info at Hinduism at 10 march diff. Best regards,  Joshua Jonathan   -  Let's talk!   19:00, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Inkubus Sukkubus
Can I ask why you keep erasing almost the entire Inkubus Sukkubus page? There is nothing contentious on it, it has been developed over many years by many authors and matches the various published material, interviews, etc. The article as you've left it is all but useless to anyone researching or reading about the band as almost all of their history, including references to their national TV appearences in the 1990s, is now missing? 83.136.123.72 (talk) 20:39, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The material sounds like it has been copied from elsewhere, and also as you need to source everything on living people when challenged, which I have done so. Please do not reinstate this information without properly sourcing it. Mdann52 (talk) 20:59, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * To the best of my knowledge none of it was copied from anywhere and if you look back over the revision history you'll see it was developed by multiple authors over a long period of time. The restriction on items about living people is contentious information (or personal attacks, misinformation, etc), which should be removed immediately. There was nothing contentious in the article. Erasing an almost an entire article without even attempting to discuss the matter on the talk page is not helpful. 83.136.123.72 (talk) 21:12, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Incorrect, any material on living people that is challenged or likely to be challenged can be removed. As all this is unsourced, I have challenged it, both under these and tone grounds, which takes precedence over discussion usually. Even if I had discussed it on the talk page, this wasn't active, so it would likely merit no response. Mdann52 (talk) 21:17, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Infobox Satellite awards
As you say at Templates for discussion/Log/2015 February 19, "there does appear to be a consensus in theory for merging". I which case, the correct way to close is with "consensus to merge", and then to add the templates to Templates for discussion/Holding cell. Please review your closure accordingly. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:17, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * not if you read the whole close. The general feeling is a merger may be appropriate, however until the details can be worked out and trivialities retained, I feel no consensus is the most appropriate for now. Of course, there may be some convention here I'm unaware of, please let me know if that's the case. Mdann52 (talk) 21:02, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I read the whole close. The convention is the one I referred to, above. A quick read of the holding cell will find several similar cases. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:22, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know - I'm on mobile now, so I'll fix this tomorrow when I'm on my PC again. Mdann52 (talk) 21:26, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Andreas Lubitz
Sorry to have to close so soon, but as with the earlier debate it was not likely to generate more light than heat. After a delay to let the facts of the case settle, another nomination might be appropriate - refer to WP:1E and WP:PERP for guidance. Also consider a merge discussion as an alternative to AfD. Fences &amp;  Windows  21:20, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-14
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Recent changes
 * You can now hide site banners even if you don't have an account.
 * You can now add citations more easily with VisualEditor on the French and Italian Wikipedia. The tool adds the information when you add some types of links. In the future you will be able to add this tool to your wiki.
 * All sites should now be faster if you have a recent browser.
 * You could see a serious bug when editing some templates with VisualEditor. It was fixed quickly.
 * VisualEditor could break when you edited an image. The issue was fixed quickly.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 31. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 1 (calendar).
 * VisualEditor is now the main editing tool on 53 more Wikipedias.
 * You can now edit the mobile site of all wikis without an account.
 * You can test a new tool on the beta mobile site on the English Wikipedia. With the new tool, you can create lists of articles.
 * You can now see that VisualEditor is opening even if you're not looking at the top of the page.
 * VisualEditor doesn't leave empty titles with just nowiki tags any more.

Meetings
 * You can join a meeting with the Wikidata team. The meeting will be on IRC on March 31 at 16:00 (UTC).
 * You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 1 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Ping as requested

 * Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_March_12

Feel free to de-tag. - jc37 15:23, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * In progress - another thousand odd edits on my bot.... Mdann52 (talk) 15:55, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

You've got a mail
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Problems with upload of File:Australian Cancer Research Foundation logo.png
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ANI Closure
Is there a way you can reopen the ANI discussion you closed? I think there was still productive discussion to be had, and we hadn't come to a conclusion yet.—chbarts (talk) 10:02, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The original discussion (whether to desysop) had reached a conclusion (no). If there is a wider issue, that should be resolved through a RfC, not ANI. In any case, the heat:light ratio was getting far too high, and the discussion was already descending into drama. Mdann52 (talk) 10:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Mainly, I would be a lot happier with an admission of wrongdoing from the party responsible for the transphobic comment, and the discussion was closed before that could happen.—chbarts (talk) 10:06, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it was clear to all that that wasn't going to happen in that thread - based on other similar discussions that I have seen before. Mdann52 (talk) 11:19, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

No Problem
Sure, no problem. I'll just drop the matter after Verdy P responds condescendingly and name-calls; absolutely no conduct issue there. There's also no issue in his insistence that he's right and everybody around him is wrong, even in the face of proof. And it's perfectly ok for fellow "volunteers" to not read issues properly and back each other up no matter their faults and pretend like there's no problems in their actions. Enjoy having wikipedia edited by Verdy and his ignorant bunch, who prioritize preaching account creation to IP users such as myself instead of worrying about article content validity, for which they're part of the problem.70.51.38.110 (talk) 18:28, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Discussion regarding courtesy vanishing
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Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
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Tech News: 2015-15
<section begin="technews-2015-W15"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can join a new email list for important news about Wikimedia Labs.
 * You can read the last monthly report. In the future you can read team reports every three months. You can see current work on the roadmap.
 * The number of articles in Special:Statistics is now updated once a month.
 * You can use a new version of the Wikipedia app for Android. Using the app, you can now share a fact with your friends.

Problems
 * The import tool was broken for a few days. Imports didn't add log entries. You can delete and import pages again if necessary.
 * Labs was broken several times this week.

'''Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 1. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 7. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 8 (calendar).
 * You can now add the same special characters with VisualEditor as with the wikitext editor.
 * Many bugs around copy-paste in VisualEditor are now fixed.
 * You can now use basic tools of VisualEditor in the new talk tool. You can add links, bold and italics. You can also mention people.

Meetings
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 8 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You can again comment on how you want to see Wikidata edits in your watchlist on other wikis.

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How can I send an email for you?
Hi. I saw your comment. Thanks for your reply. I want to send details/reasons for that questions/request, and I'll discuss why I want to edit through proxy (I really need it). How to send email via WP interface? Best regards. --Zyma (talk) 03:25, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * try Special:Emailuser/Mdann52. Mdann52 (talk) 18:27, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Oops!
Sorry, that must have been a finger slip on my tablet as I put it away. So sorry for any frustration or confusion. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">WV ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">✉ ✓ 19:54, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * don't worry, that's my old trick too. No damage done, thanks for letting me know. Mdann52 (talk) 20:08, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

David Gottlob Jüngling
At WP:AFC/R, you rejected someone's request to create David Gottlob Jüngling ==> David Yuengling because "The title you suggested seems unlikely..." But the article itself begins with "David Gottlob Jüngling, or David Yuengling..." and has "David Gottlob Jüngling" on top of the box on the right side. Did you make a mistake? 65.210.65.16 (talk) 20:41, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-16
<section begin="technews-2015-W16"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can read the latest news about VisualEditor.
 * You can now use the new translation tool on 22 Wikipedias. You now see the tool the first time you create a new page.
 * The list of bad user names on your wiki no longer works. The global list replaces it. You can ask to add rules for bad user names on Meta.

Problems
 * Some wikis had issues on Wednesday.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 14. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 15 (calendar).
 * Developers will start to rename 1.5 million accounts on Wednesday. After that all accounts will be unique and will work on all wikis.
 * All users can now test link previews ("Hovercards") on several Wikipedias.

Meetings
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 15 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Admin?
Hey Mdann, have you ever thought about running for administrator? I'd be happy to nominate you in a couple months (to get a little more distance between the RfA and your month-long retirement) if you're interested. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 11:10, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I've been thinking about it - I was going to look into running later this year (probably the summer). Thanks a lot on the offer of a nomination - I'll probably take you upon that! Mdann52 (talk) 15:53, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * That sounds great! Just shoot me a message whenever you're ready. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 17:49, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-17
<section begin="technews-2015-W17"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * There was sometimes a problem when saving a page in VisualEditor. It is now fixed on all wikis.
 * VisualEditor sometimes showed empty warnings for wikis using Flagged Revisions. This is now fixed on all wikis.
 * You can get the new version of the Wikipedia app for iOS. With it you can share facts with your friends.
 * If you write JavaScript, you should stop using importScript and importStylesheet.

Problems
 * There was a problem with Labs on Monday.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 15. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 21. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 22 (calendar).
 * Developers are renaming 1.5 million accounts. After that all accounts will be unique and will work on all wikis.
 * If your wiki has the auto-fill tool for citations, you can now use it when you edit a reference.
 * You can now give examples for template options in TemplateData.

Meetings
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 22 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You will soon be able to add and remove tags on edits.

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Did you read the request?
Please go back to WP:AFC/R on the "Redirect request: Affections, Doctrine of the; Affects..." section. Are you saying that the Library of Congress source that I provided is not valid? In other words, the Library professionals made a mistake in listing several of these as alternate Library of Congress Subject Headings? Even if they did, everyone using the Library of Congress Subject Headings has these terms listed as alternate usages; create them as redirects-from-misspellings, because they're so plausible that librarians all over the United States have been making this mistake for a long time without noticing. 65.210.65.16 (talk) 19:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)


 * The reason why I declined the ones I did is because I don't see a source showing that that name was in common use to search with - we generally do not use heading in the format you said (ie. last, then first), as people generally do not search like that. I note that I created the rest not in that format. Mdann52 (talk) 10:02, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

"Pulkovskiy Meridian" type/Stende redirect
Hi Mdann52. Here's a few additional sources as you requested over at the AFC/R page. The joys of Soviet bureaucracy and competing designation systems.

http://www.albinomoran.com/am2/am.asp?page=3a1&n=0&lang=en

http://www.shipstamps.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13064

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1595627

http://transparentsea.co/images/f/f0/Russia_nursing_$20_billion_newbuilding_plan_for_fishing_fleets.pdf

To confuse matters even further, the Stende/Dalniy Vostok also came under the general BATM (Bolshoy Avtonomniy Trawler Morozilniy [Big Autonomous Trawler Reefer]) classification as mentioned in this news report/opinion piece. That though should go in a separate redirect, or else be mentioned in the article on the disaster (I'm leaning towards the later but haven't made up my mind fully yet). Ceannlann gorm (talk) 17:37, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * my comments were based on what was presented - you are free to create this yourself per WP:REDIRECT. I looked for the request, but couldn't find it in the archive, although I'll have another look later. Mdann52 (talk) 10:05, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 10:08, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect now live. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 10:22, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

WP:ANI
Hey, Mdann52, Is there a reason you are archiving cases from WP:ANI? There is a bot that is set up to do that automatically, after a certain period of time of inactivity. Liz <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 18:48, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 * yes, but it is quite iffy - for example, there are threads over 4 days old on there, as the bot will skip archiving if a certain number of threads are not archived (as from what I remember). Also, the bot seems to archive occasionally. Also, some sections are best archived and left to die (for example, the top thread, which the only additional comment in it was saying not to reopen). I also like to keep the page length down - it's half a mb at the moment, which presents an issue for those on restricted data connections. Mdann52 (talk) 18:57, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Un-archive the discussion I started to where it was. I requested admin closure. Kristina451 (talk) 19:19, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, no user has commented on this other than the two involved, and therefore it appears inactive and was archived. As this was a sockpuppetry allagation, can I suggest taking it to WP:SPI, or to request protection on pages, WP:RFPP? These will likely get a quicker resolution than ANI. Mdann52 (talk) 19:30, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy and I've seen this template being used at ANI, and getting the case resolved. Please un-archive to where it was. Kristina451 (talk) 19:46, 20 April 2015 (UTC)


 * to quote from elsewhere Inactive cases, resolved or not, should be archived. In this case, the thread was inactive, so got archived. You could restore it, but from experience, it may be best to bring it up at the other venues I mentioned, as this sort of case often goes uncommented on at ANI
 * Sorry, Mdann52, according to Flo, you've archived ANI cases before and the admins find it useful. I had just never seen an editor do it before, I had assumed it was all automated, archived by bot. Thanks for the explanation and taking my question in the spirit it was intended! Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 20:30, 20 April 2015 (UTC)


 * no problem - I read the other thread (the last ping failed for some reason...), and that summarises why I do it. I appreciate it is a tad unusual, hence why I'm willing to explain my rational. Of course, some are unresolved, however as the noticeboard is for urgent action, and many of these cases have no or little participation, it seems pointless to keep them up when no admin action is forthcoming. I will sometimes close instead, but in some cases, even that is not worthwhile. Mdann52 (talk) 10:07, 21 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Please note in the SPI the sock started about me, another editor pointed to the open ANI section. A CheckUser placed the SPI on hold to look into what I said at ANI.  Since people are looking into it, I'd like to ask you to stop edit-warring me over the admin close I requested. You aren't an admin and I think your involvement so far has been unhelpful and only created extra work for others. Kristina451 (talk) 14:58, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Redirects from surnames
Hi Mdann52, I hope you don't feel like I'm stepping on your toes, but I'm going to go ahead and create the requested Grugman → Rafael Grugman. R from surname is "used because Wikipedia has only one biographical article of a person by this surname, or because one individual is ubiquitously known by this surname", so the former criterion fits. --BDD (talk) 18:54, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, go ahead - I wasn't aware of this ! Mdann52 (talk) 18:59, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Why on earth...
...did you create this? 82.132.229.130 (talk) 19:27, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Suzannah Lipscomb problems
Dear Mdann52, I hope it is ok to ask about this here. An ip has added


 * His daughter-in-law is the British historian and television presenter Suzannah Lipscomb.

to Stephen R. Lawhead. I have tried deleting this but it has been restored and I just added a citation needed template to it. I foolishly made the page on Lipscomb and had not realised what a mess it would be. I feel some sense of responsibity and am not sure what the real problems are but I think it hinges around the issue refered to here. I don't know about the current marital status and what the right thing to do is. Do you know or have any advice about how, if at all, to proceed here? I ask because I think you were involved in some way connected with OTRS stuff. I have added some extra useful sources on the talk page to show goodwill. Sorry to bother you and best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 16:19, 23 April 2015 (UTC))
 * aparently, my actoins here may have overstepped the line (as in I can't lock down articles like I did, it seems not to be the done thing despite what I was told at the time....) In any case, I'll keep an eye on this. Mdann52 (talk) 16:24, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks and best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 16:26, 23 April 2015 (UTC))