User talk:Meatball king

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Meatball king/sandbox


A tag has been placed on User:Meatball king/sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free Web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. NgYShung huh? 05:08, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

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I deleted the page because of two reasons, the first of which was the main reason I deleted the article.

The first is that the page was tagged as promotional and did actually come across as such. The reason for this is that the page read a lot like a resume in places. When listing someone's professional credits it's better to use a list like the one here, however I need to caution you that typically there's no need to list a credit if it's especially minor. For example, camera operators and floor operators are considered to be minor roles on Wikipedia and aren't usually included in an article unless this part of a person's past is especially well covered. It's generally accepted that people will take on minor roles in film, television, or what have you before they start landing especially major positions. There's no true need to list every single thing they did everywhere, especially as this can make an article more closely resemble a resume, making it seem more promotional. A Wikipedia article is expected to be a brief overview and not comprehensive.

The second is that I didn't entirely see where von der Lippe is ultimately notable. He exists as a creative professional, but this by itself does not make someone notable. You need to show where his shows and movies are notable by showing where they and/or von der Lippe have received coverage in independent and reliable sources (WP:RS). A person can be involved with things, sometimes even productions that have aired on national television, but these things don't automatically give notability. For example, I've seen one person put out work through a major channel (I think it was BBC) but because there was no coverage of their work or of the person themselves, they failed notability guidelines for creative professionals. (WP:ENTERTAINER) I tried searching to see if there's any coverage for him, but I don't really see where there's enough out there to establish notability guidelines. Notability is actually pretty hard to establish on Wikipedia, so don't take this badly.

If you do want to try again on the page, I'd recommend drafting the article through WP:AfC first, an article creation process where the article is reviewed to see if it passes notability guidelines and is ready to be moved or not. This will give you more time to repair any problems with the page if it's declined, which can be very helpful when you're a newer user. I also recommend using the WP:TEAHOUSE as well, since they can help you with any questions you might have during the process. There's always someone there answering questions, so I recommend it as one of the first places to check for help. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  05:04, 21 August 2016 (UTC)