User talk:Meatypath/sandbox

For you all: Great work - you are off to a good start!
 * For Katie - not sure what you mean by Goldstein's ideology. For help with reference citations, use this shortcut: WP:CQR. There are also instructions on citations in the brochure I handed out in class, Editing Wikipedia. If you're using the visual editor, citations are easy using the drop down text box.
 * For Ivan - Goldstein's nationality is a signficant part of his history, but if there's been a little 'wiki-war' over this, just leave it be. Definitely talk about his work that's relevant to psychology, like self-actualization (see chapters 4 and 12 in our textbook) and schizophrenia. 'Selected works' section is pretty standard in Wikipedia bios. I'd leave it.
 * Nice to see you've tackled citations!
 * For Amber - yes, his experiences in Nazi Germany would be important to include. Early life as well. You don't need to just focus on psychology. Regarding citations, see my comment to Katie.

J.R. Council (talk) 18:37, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

To do list

 * 1) It looks like Katie assigned names to tasks, and then Amber edited them out.
 * 2) Otherwise, task list looks reasonable.

Outline
Sketchy. Need to add more detail. Filling in text below sections of outline is a good approach.

Refs
This section needs work. You all need to learn how to populate a reference list. I only see two references.

In general
J.R. Council (talk) 21:59, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Katie seems to have taken this assignment most seriously. She has contributed to the to-do list, outline, refs, and tasks.
 * 2) I'm not seeing much effort from Ivan. Please get serious about this project.
 * 3) Division of tasks and statements committing to various tasks are missing from current version.

Response
Thanks Katie and Amber for putting together most of assignment 5! Regarding the assignments and tasks needed for this current version, I okay'd Katie via phone call to put my name by a couple sections, including the Schizophrenia one. Amber, are you alright with me taking this? If you'd like, you can have it too! If no objections though, I'll do a little carousing of pubmed on schizophrenia and see what turns up. Additionally, I believe the lead could use some objectivity and rewording to make it flow better. I can take a closer look at that over the weekend. Finally, I wouldn't mind grammar checking everything at the end to make sure everything flows well together.

Sorry I've been a little absent this past week. We had 2 quizzes and 4 tests, including one that determined if we could sign up for classes next semester so it's been a hectic week! While I attempted to coordinate with Katie to ensure assignment 5 was complete and started an outline towards the beginning of the week, I realize that my effort lacked a little, so I'll put forth a little more next time!

Thanks again for everything guys! IvanMeatypath (talk) 04:19, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Ivan - thanks for clarifying your role in this project. I know that pharmacy students stay really busy. J.R. Council (talk) 20:46, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Council's comments on Assignment 7
This article is coming along very well, but is not yet ready to publish to the main article space. Please read the pamphlet I handed out on editing psychology articles - in particular, see page 2 on organizing an article on a psychologist.

In general: Much of this article is already well-written in paragraph form. Just pull things together so it reads more smoothly. There are a lot of one-sentence paragraphs that could be consolidated.

Here are my comments, section by section:

Lead
 * This is good, but needs to map onto the article better. For example, you mention Maslow's theory of needs (which is good), but I don't see any mention of that theory in the article. Rather than delete that sentence from the lead, you should add a section to the article about how he influenced Maslow. Mostly, though, there are important parts of the article that are not covered in the lead.

Biography
 * In general, focus on details that relate to Goldstein's notability. I think it would be best to title this section something like "Background" and use it to describe both early life and nonprofessional influences later in life, such as nazis and emigration.
 * Early life - first paragraph has no reference citations.
 * Later life - better title would be "Academic and Professional Career." Then make the Holistic approach and Psychology parts sub-sections of this part.

Better yet: Follow organization suggested in pamphlet, and organize material as Academic career, Major contributions, Publications, Legacy. You can still keep the biography section at the beginning. Just separate out the material that relates to his professional work. J.R. Council (talk) 19:26, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Assignment 8 decision
Hello Group 2, This article has really come along. I'm going to forward it to Ian. However, it still needs thorough proofreading. In one section you use 'formerly' when you mean 'formally.' In another place you write, "In 1933 when the Nazis came to power during World War II," which is not true. On the whole, very detailed and complete. Nice job! J.R. Council (talk) 03:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Feedback
Very nice work expanding the article. A thoughts


 * This wording is odd: "forced out of Germany...by Nazi powers" - powers is unusual and a bit ambiguous in that context.
 * At the very end of the first section there's a faked "reference 2" - [2]. Please replace that with a real inline source. Numbers will change as the article develops - what might be reference 2 today might become reference 1 - or 10.
 * A few things are uncited. At the end of the Academic career section there's a statement without a source: "Goldstein accepted a position at the University of Berlin later that year." Where does that come from? The Methodology section is also unsourced.

Beyond that, there are a few minor formatting issues. The standard format for referencing in Wikipedia is to put the source after the punctuation - so it should be: Statement.[3] not Statement[3]. In addition, the standard format for section headers is to only capitalize proper nouns (beyond the first word of the section header). You should link terms that the average reader might not know (like Gestalt therapy) and it's important to link the names of towns and institutions in Silesia and East Prussia, since the names of all of these places have changed, like Breslau, the University of Breslau and Königsberg. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:02, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Well done!
Looks like you've addressed all of Ian's concerns. You've got my thumbs-up to publish! Please see the instructions on Blackboard following Assignment 9 on how move the article over to main space. Congrats! J.R. Council (talk) 18:54, 8 December 2015 (UTC)