User talk:Mel Etitis/Archive 34

Trust (album) revert
I'm not sure why you reverted my bots edit there, can you have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums#Stars_to_text (the link on the bots home page describing the bot's job) Thanks! Tawker 13:35, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I just found your comment on the project page, so far you are the only (admin at least) editor who has started reverting. I figured anyone who needed an explaination would be able to see its talk page, apparently this wasn't the case. I also didn't see any talk page messages so you might assume I was a little confused as to why it was being reverted. I have stopped the job for now, I should point out that aprox of the ratings (the ones in templates have already been converted to text. This request was on Bot requests for the last 13 days, nobody posted any objections there either so still not totally suprised on your "in private" - where would you suggest posting it  Tawker 13:59, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't see it as an attack, I was just a little puzzled as to why you would post on AN without a talk page message first. I'm going to make a post on Village Pump as I believe some have already been changed and we need to reach a decision one way or another. Tawker 14:35, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No worries, I think AN is a good place to post alongside the talk page (I personally don't monitor AN besides the odd vandalism revert, IRC works a lot faster for me. I've posted it on the Village Pump @  if we reach a consensus to keep the star ratings I will start looking at how to replace all of the already replaced text to images. Tawker 15:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * One little question, did you use admin revert all or did you do individual reverts. It doesn't appear that anyone put a block on but there were a few subst: edits beforehand and I was wondering if I need to re-do those. Thanks! Tawker 15:19, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, if the consensus is to keep the images in some way shape or form I'll set the bot to revert the edits it made that were not reverted. Tawker 18:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Spelling
"Earnt" isn't a word Mel. It's a common spelling mistake. --Ian Pitchford 19:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm using a UK dictionary and Wikipedia's list of common spelling mistakes.
 * It's here Mel: Lists of common misspellings. I've been working through it for some time.

removing content
Dear friend, could you please tell WHEN I have removed content from WikiEn? Give me some examples, please. 83.165.139.109 19:55, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Your approach with Asian fetish was effective in restoring peace and a measure of sanity to a formerly beleagured article. Thanks. Of course, the troll problem will likely continue ad infinitum. We will all need to keep repeating the mantrum "don't feed the trolls..." Sunray 02:09, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Altporn
Sorry, I'm a newb.. but we used to have a link in Altporn and you deleted it.

It doesn't seem too fair that 2 or 3 sites get the honor of being in the entry.

There are only a handful of these sites, how can I get my site mentioned there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgrant (talk • contribs) 12:38, 19 February 2006

Confucianist temples (reprise)
Wow, you go through talk pages like most people go through their underwear!

I was just wondering why you removed the Temple of Literature in Hanoi from the category "Confucianism". The Van Mieu is a classic Confucianist temple, as much as any Confucianist temple in China, including the name Van Mieu/文庙, meaning Temple of Culture/Literature. I notice that the temple in Qufu is also not assigned to Confucianism, although the article on Yushima Seido is, but only because I put it there :) --Ok, I've checked out a Buddhist temple, and it was assigned to the category "Buddhist Temples". Could there be a need to start a new category on "Confucianist temples"?

The reason I am asking is because it seems to me that Confucian temples are a legitimate and important, although overlooked, aspect of Confucianism. In fact, the temples help make it clear in a concrete sense how Confucianism was implemented as a 'state religion', not merely as an abstract set of principles. Bathrobe 12:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

How do you start a new category? (It may be a rather small category, until writing articles about Confucian temples catches on!)

Bathrobe 13:00, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Capitalisation in song titles
Hi Mel! I was wondering if you could give me a list of all words that should not be capitalised in song titles, so I know exactly where to move pages for future reference. Thanks in advance! Extraordinary Machine 16:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I think I understand it now. In regards to Time after Time (Cyndi Lauper song), are subordinate conjuctions not supposed to be capitalised? Anyway, thanks again. Extraordinary Machine 18:26, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello Mel Etitis. Similar to what Extraordinary Machine asked you (concerning "after"), is the word "of" always uncapitalised regardless of the context? You see, I was working on a non-Wikipedia project for a professor and he noted that "of" should have been capitalised. The project was titled "It's of You and I", however, he explained that I was incorrect because of something referred to as "technical terms". I attempted to research the subject but failed to retrieve any documented material. I am currently quite upset and would like to know if you could tell me which version of the word "of" (capitalised or uncapitalised) is correct? &mdash;Eternal Equinox | talk 20:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I had pondered the thought myself, but there is nothing special about the title. It simply refers to two people (unoriginally known as "You" and "I"), which, had they possessed names, could have been: "It's of Eternal Equinox and Mel Etitis". Otherwise, I don't believe there is anything within the subject that should allow the use of a capital "o" in "of". &mdash;Eternal Equinox | talk 20:26, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. Thanks for your help, professor. &mdash;Eternal Equinox | talk 22:14, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

?
Am I wrong about Energy Vamp's?

Has a scientific study proven they can drain people?

132.241.245.49 09:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Vamp
"No Psychic Vampire has ever been able to prove their abilities via scientic testing", though better than the earlier version that you tried to insert, is uncited (see WP:CITE). There is no indication that testing has been carried out; if you have information on this (which can be cited), please add it. Of course I think that belief in psychic vampires is on a level with belief in alien abductions, demonic possession, and intelligent design, but we have standards for articles that must be met."

Stop confusing me with your logic! ;)

I may have to call Penn & Teller about this subject. lol

132.241.245.49 09:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Conversation?
Hello Mel.

My post to philosophy talk-pages is start to conversation my thinking-method. I cannot start conversation on it if that document is not allowed to read there?

Presentation of that method must see before anybody cannot thought it.

It is a new philosophy thinking-method to see our nature-world.

But if yours opinion it that it is not allowed, then it is okey for me.

But, but? Still i wonder your opinion?

br.Heikki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heikki (talk • contribs) 12:39, 20 February 2006

image;heitaitee.jpg
Hei.

Smaller one is ok. Others two can delete.

br.Heikki.

sorry. Im a new user.

I think that if i do new wiki-page of that my new thinking method? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heikki (talk • contribs) 20 February 2006

Gingerfield rocks/sockpuppets.
I decided to discuss this matter here, after seeing the last "conversation" between you and Gingerfield rocks.

I can't help but notice how User:Gingerfield rocks still makes exactly the same edits as User:209.172.115.34, uses very similar "arguments", but, and that's the most interesting part, uses a perfectly converse style when replying, e.g. User:209.172.115.34 appears ready willing to discuss, while User:Gingerfield rocks ALWAYS writes in bold, and uses one-sentence replies such as "How the bloody hell am I vandalizing it?" (used at least 3 times), and "I checked X, it is/it's not Y" (X and Y whatever the context might be) and the phrase "How the bloody hell..." has appeared on User_talk:193.164.112.20, a suspected (confirmed?) sockpuppet of Gingerfield rocks. Same arguments as Gingerfield and User:209.172.115.34, in general, but User:209.172.115.34 appears (or tries to appear) more refined than them. Also, the "Check Dragon Saber's ending" argument appears under all three users' "argumentation".

By reading WP:SOCK, this deliberate usage of converse styles is often indicative of sockpuppetry (also notice how those three users never interact between them, despite their common "goals and aspirations"). Well...just wanted to clarify those facts, hope they help grasping the big picture :-/ EpiVictor 17:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

MoS
Thanks for the comment. I'm just going out, so I'll check when I get back in. Rich  Farmbrough. 18:40, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_%28headings%29#Standard_headings_and_ordering (I'm going to be late now!) Rich  Farmbrough. 18:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Well "Wikipedia's community-editing leads to prompt correction of such oversights." is certainly dubious at best, there are at least 8,600 "External link" sections with more than one link! I'll concentrate on those, and a bunch of other things for now. Rich   Farmbrough. 23:06, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for gatecrashing, I was feeling a bit downtrodden! Rich  Farmbrough. 23:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Joe Craig
1. Ok, thank you very much regarding the afd withdrawal for me. I appreciate it. 2. Ok, I accept that Joe Craig is a novelist, in the contemporary publishing sense of novels. I was thinking more from the perspective of literature, which I don't think Joe Craig would fit Bwithh 19:30, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Ted Leo correction?
Why did you remove my additions to the Ted Leo article? He does appear on that DVD, and that is the correct title. It is available on Amazon.com as well as other places. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.239.216.106 (talk • contribs) 04:58, 21 February 2006


 * As this IP address has been used only to leave this question, and as a number of different edits on the article have been from various IP adddresses, I can't know which edit you're talking about I'm afraid. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 09:21, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm talking about the ones from: 22:10, 17 February 2006 199.43.32.68 (→DVDs/videos), which you removed saying "rm obscure addition (might belong here, but needs explaining, & correct title))". I added the title and description: "-* Burn To Shine 01: Washington DC 01.14.2004 (January 2005), Label:Trixie. Ted plays one song solo, in a house that is burned down after the performance. He is also featured on the DVD cover." to the DVDs/Vidoes section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.138.48.16 (talk • contribs) 10:07, 21 February 2006


 * Leaving aside style (use of his first name, spacing, capitals, etc.), the DVD title looks odd, the fact that he's on the cover is surely irrelevant (if it's his picture) and to be expected (if it's his name).
 * In fact I've just Googled it, and the title is wrong; it's Burn to Shine 01: Washington DC . If you add it with the correct name, etc., I can tidy up any formatting problems. --Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 10:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I wrote the title exactly as it's listed by Amazon. And it is in fact his picture on the cover.


 * 1) Please "sign" your messages (by using four tildes: ~ ).
 * 2) Amazon, like many such sites, have an automated system for taking titles, authors/artists, etc. from their sources, and that often goes wrong (usually because the original source has the information presented non-standardly). It's best to go by the title given on the label's own site here, especially as the date is given in a way that many people (including me) find peculiar. --Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 10:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for trying to contribute positively to a project. 4.239.147.12 10:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


 * ?? --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 20:14, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Zhuangzi
The mediation case on Zhuangzi has been accepted. Please tell me your side of the issue, as objectively as possible, preferrably in a concise format. Thanks, hopefully I can help. Karm a  fist  12:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

George robb
Would you mind contacting the contributor of George robb to see if he wants a copy to keep for himself? It was a pretty long article. Gazpacho 10:03, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Qplaze
Hello Mel, I am new in Wikipedia, so maybe will ask stupid questions:) Could you explain why my article about Qplaze marked as NPOV?

Best regards, Anton —Preceding unsigned comment added by AntonAntropov (talk • contribs) 10:20, 22 February 2006

Hello Mel, Regarding copyrights for Qplaze article, we have rights for this text and agree to publish it to wikipedia. You could verify this send mail to gik(at)qplaze.com or to admin(at)qplaze.com

Wrong understandig.
Hei, Mel. I understood this forum function wrong. I believe that there can represent new theoryes and ideas also(like GNU-free). Sorry. You can remove my user-log in pages and all other text. Sorry again.--Heikki 13:19, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Khuê_Văn_Các.jpg
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 * I looked at Image:Khuê Văn Các.jpg and reclassified the image, does that seem ok to you how it is tagged now? Orphanbot isn't actually concerned with orphans at all, it delinks images that have been tagged as not having a source by image tagging people. Kinda a scary name when you look at it that way :) Anyway, I hope that clears it up, if you don't think that new tag is appropriate feel free to change it etc :D - cohesion &#9733; talk 07:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I don't run the bot though, that other sub-page is Carnildo who runs it, the system we have for responding to tags the bot sends out is new, previously Carnildo had to do it all. Did it seem smooth to you? I don't know, it's sort of weird bouncing around 3 talk pages, I'm not sure how to make it easier though :\ - cohesion &#9733; talk 18:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Zartonk Daily Newspaper
As my edit summary said, it doesn't appear to me to need copyediting, the English is perfectly good, and I can't see what can be wikified on it as there is not enough there to need sections. Can you explain what needs doing to the article? Kcordina 09:04, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Your statement didn't sound rude, but English is my first language, and I work as an legal attorney in that Language, so I think, generally, my command of English is good. Fair point about the dates not being in wiki-format, you are quite right. I still fail to see what the problem is with the previous version, other than, perhaps, the addition of a 'the' prior to name.  However, the new version is not clear whether it is the paper or the party that is based in the Lebanon. Kcordina 12:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

"(and I'm biting back witty comments about lawyers' English)" - We always know what we mean ;-) Kcordina 13:46, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Article on Karma
With regard to the Karma article:

You may be right about neutrality. In that case I suggest you remove the copy-edit tag and replace it with a POV tag. My edits merely addressed grammar, spelling, and style, and did not make any attempt to change tone, neutrality, or content. Putting the right tag on the article makes sure it gets flagged for the appropriate kind of editing and also that readers are alerted with regard to neutrality or lack thereof.

I haven't changed the tag myself because I don't like reverting back and forth. If you agree, please put in the switch to the POV tag yourself; if not, don't.

Splitpeasoup 19:23, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Dimensional Analysis Copyvio
Hello - The recent history of the Dimensional analysis article is this:
 * 1) Some user named Patdw screwed up everything by moving the entire article to Huntley's Analysis which is just wrong. Also moved the talk page. Then took the contents of a copyrighted article by "Patrick Williford" and inserted it into the Dimensional analysis article. My suspicion is that the article by Patrick Williford is correct, although there is no user page for it.
 * 2) You added a copyvio tag, and rightly so, given the information at hand.

I am going to restore the Dimensional analysis article to its original state (pre-Patdw), including the talk page. I understand that technically this is bad practice, removing a copyvio tag, but the copyvio will no longer hold. I hope this is ok with you, please let me know if it is not. I will leave a message at Patdw's talk page explaining the situation, and hopefully we can resolve any differences of opinion a bit more slowly. PAR 00:42, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Temple of Confucius
The characters I added to the article("欞星門") were Traditional Chinese characters. And the reason I removed "孔夫子" was that it does not have a simplified form and hence it is redundant to show it twice. It was my bad that I did not explain this in my edit summary. Thanks. 199.111.230.195 05:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I've added a comment/suggestion about Traditional and Simplified characters on the discussion page for Temple of Confucius.

Bathrobe 06:18, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Vesti la giubba [oppure/or] Veste la giubba...
...it depends on the "2d person: you" or the "polite you". Io parlo italiano, anche te? Tanti auguri dal Belgio. Stephan KŒNIG 16:45, 25 February 2006 (UTC) Aahhhhh, ok: I see: these both titles are as good as each other...Ouk elabon polin alla gar elpis éphè kaka???? Can't write it in real Greek writing: if you could provide me the good Greek characters, I'll be able to write the sentence in good (ancient) Greek. :-) Stephan KŒNIG 19:26, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I am not...
...probably misleaded, sorry :-) Stephan KŒNIG 00:30, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Revolution within the form
Perhaps you may vote on this. OR, contains reference to Aristotle. Pavel Vozenilek 01:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Could also take look at Articles for deletion/Westology. Neither original, nor research but claims some link to Michel Foucault. Thanks for the participation. Pavel Vozenilek 14:29, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

re: Adam Pascal
Hello, I know you left this message over six months ago, but I've been dormant since then, and figured I would respond.

''What does "originating the role" mean? I take it that he didn't write it, so doesn't it just mean (in plain English) being the first person to play it? If it doesn't just mean that, could what it does mean be explained in the article? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 14:03, 23 September 2005 (UTC)''

In theater terms, "originating a role" means being first to play the role. I should have made that clear when I initially made the article - and will do on now. Thank you! Noday16 16:04, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Bagha Jatin== ==

Hi! Where is the temp page where the article older version of Bagha Jatin has been copied? I can try to inprove it and then verify from you whether the article is decent enough.I admit the article is purple, even , rosy !! However, it was also full of great information on revolutionaries which is otherwise difficult to gather.Thank you.--Dwaipayanc 19:39, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

again regarding Bagha Jatin
Hi! Basically,the original article was rosy.But the original writer (Dr.Prithwin Mukherjee) is an authority of the subject .You can check out his bibliography at He has some books on the revolutionaries|revolutionaries like Aurobindo Ghosh and Bagha Jatin.Basically he is a senior citizen and not adept at using Wikipedia that needs some technical experience.I just hoped that he himself would try to make the article neutral, helped by minor technical correction by us.Anyway, could you please let me know where is the temp page of the original article situated (I am too not great in the technicalities of Wikipedia :) ). Bye and thank you.--Dwaipayanc 19:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Huh! that was the original one!! That was awful.I did not see that.Anyway, that can hardly be salvaged. I will try with the form that you reverted i.e. that was present just a few minutes earlier before you reverted it.Bye, and thanks.;) --Dwaipayanc 19:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh yes, that was bad, I mean the temper-show.Anyway, I am still shocked the real original version !! It cannot be maintained.Anyway,lets see what can be done with the penultimate version.--Dwaipayanc 20:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * If you can move the penultimate version to a temp page that would be great.Because the real original version is unworkable.While the just past version (the one that was existent before the last edition by you) can be worked upon.If you can, please do this favor. And please let me know where you are creating this new temp page. Thank a LOT.--Dwaipayanc 20:08, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

re: Adam Pascal
I understand what you are saying, but I've personally never heard it referred to as anything other than "originating". I edited the page to a more theatrical-correct version.

Yes, it's horribly written
The NoZe Brotherhood. I've tried to clean it up some. No guarantees it wont be reverted back. 68.39.174.238 07:07, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Jami
I notice that you have thoroughly desexualized the article on Jami, one of the greatest defenders and celebrators of male love in Persian poetry, and god knows there has been no dearth of such. May I ask you why you would do such a thing? Haiduc 15:21, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Got it. You inadvertently removed material that was relevant but, as you say, not supported in the article. I am working on an expanded version as we speak, if after I post it you still see any problems please let me know. Cheers, Haiduc 16:59, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Done. Haiduc 19:10, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

References on Bagha Jatin
Hi! Thank you for moving the intermediate version to a temp page. I have started working on it.I have collected many references for the claims made in the article and listed the references here. However,i do not know how to associate references with lines in the body of the article.For example, in printed media, we use superscripts in the body of the article and at the end provide references accordingly.How to do same in Wikipedia? I hope to collect more refences so that the allegation of bias against the article can be fought.However,the language of the article needs more work! Thanks.--Dwaipayanc 15:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi ,could you please check the present version.The portion of "final battle" had been changed.And the portion above "final battle" was originally done by User:Phronima, I just added the references.Please tell me about what is wrong with the references - or, better, you can change the formatting of the refernces. Please note the time I am writting this to you.Because, the article may again be changed after this !!!
 * Thank you.--Dwaipayanc 08:46, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok.I am sorry.And I am not going to massively edit anymore,as it seems the present version is quite ok.Thank you for the tidying.And also I am sorry for the massive editing the article while it was under RfC.It was due to the fact that I did not know this rule - though I should've seen the rule before jumping on to edit.Hopr the present version is within the rules of Wikipedia.Thanks again.--Dwaipayanc 09:53, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Could you please visit Bagha Jatin/Temp3 and comment?Thank you.
 * P.S. I am really sorry that I massively edited the article Bagha Jatin which was under RfC.--Dwaipayanc 11:38, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

User:JohnDavies
Mel,

Thanks for moving the page about me to a more appropriate place(!) Sorry I got the protocol wrong - I have only made a couple of previous entries to wikipedia. I noticed there was an entry about me when I searched on my name so I thought I would add some detail.

JD —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnDavies (talk • contribs) 16:26, 27 February 2006

I'm sorry
Hi, I didn't know if you would read my comments over on the other page, but I wanted to let you know that I am sorry for doing that wrong and I did not mean to enter it too many times. I was just trying to take into considerations all the various ways people might write it in and didn't think it would matter because they would not run into it unless they did a specific search on it. Can you please inform me of the proper proceedure for adding the website so it is searchable on wikipedia? Thanks. Nikki

p.s if this is not the right place to put this then please remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikkicraft (talk • contribs) 16:42, 27 February 2006

autobios...
I will certainly stay and contribute, no problem.

One thing I don't understand - I searched on my name and found several entries inclusing one about me rather than others with the same name. So I added some infomraiton - I didn't think I had *started* the entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnDavies (talk • contribs) 16:48, 27 February 2006

autobios
Ah! I think I see what's going on. On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Davies there was a brief mention of me (from whom I don't know). Then *I* indeed created the page you moved. So someone created the disambiguation page mentioning me but there was no separate (individual) page mentioning me(?)

Sorry to take up your time with this - I will shut up now ;-)

When did Craft create the superfluous pages?
I couldn't find the superfluous pages in Nikkicraft's edit history. Do you remember when she created them? -MichaelBluejay

Indian Philosophy Template
I added the categories Indian Philosophy and Philosophy to the Indian Philosophy template, so that articles on which this template is used get added automatically to these categories. Is this not the right way to do it? Thanks! deeptrivia (talk) 03:49, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply on my talk page. I think it makes perfect sense. Editors can always manually add more appropriate categories. Cheers :) deeptrivia (talk) 21:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

re: Adam Pascal
"Originating a Role" is used in reference to original Broadway cast members all across Wikipedia. Until you change them all, this one stays. Noday16 22:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Maitland Jones, Jr.
Dear Mel,

Thank you for editing the Maitland Jones, Jr. page. We was my professor, and he is retiring at the end of this year. My gift to him is this webpage.

I do have a question about content. In his own webpage, he makes a point of recognizing his former students.

http://www.princeton.edu/~mjjr/

Would it be possible to keep this section in the wikipedia article?

Cheers, Stacy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smac02155 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 1 March 2006

Thanks for your message. I am new to Wikipedia and am delighted by whatever help I can get. I also didn't expect a reply and so have been correcting some of the scientific/career statements that became a wee bit garbled during the editting process. I hope you don't mind.

To answer your question. Jones is unusual in his field in that he invested heavily in seeing his students succeed. They are the measure by which he judges himself, and our field is slowly coming around to his way of thinking. There is one other way to express his impact is to record the number of times his articles are cited by other publications, but this information is more difficult to collect, particularly before 1980. In this sense, Jones is wise to stress his human legacy over the paper one.

Does this answer your question?

Cheers, S

PS I did not quite understand the Wikipedia instructions on including knicknames. He is also known as MJ or Mait Jones. His research lab is called Jones Alley.

PSS Is Wikipedia having trouble with indexing now? Other folk haven't been able to find the Maitland, Jones, Jr. article from a direct link or if they miss any capital letters, commas or periods.

Again, thank you. It's tough to be a newbie



stasia_one: Would you try again? stasia_one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitland_Jones%2C_Jr. stasia_one: I am working with an edit desk within wikipedia... vote4joe: Nope. Doesn't link. And search gets me back to the young and the restless. stasia_one: crap! vote4joe: Yeah. Weird. stasia_one: I'm writing to the editing desk now... vote4joe: stasia_one: You can find him if you search for exactly Maitland Jones, Jr.

List of Greek scientists
I spent many days cleaning up the unwieldy List of Greek scientists to use categories instead, which are a lot easier to maintain, and now you re-introduced the page I had deleted. Please see how you can achieve the same effect with categories, and consider spending some effort adding and adjusting categories to improve the situation. Many thanks, --Diomidis Spinellis 23:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Can you now please delete the page? --Diomidis Spinellis 11:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

SMAC02155
Thanks, Mel Etitis.

--SMAC02155

Jonathan Christian Webster
Why are my edits to the Johnathan Christian Webster page being removed; in particular, the call on February 13, 2006? I was listening to the show that evening and the caller definitely was J.C. If other calls to J.C. are permitted to be listed on the page, why is that one not? --Dr. Floyd 20:50, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Tao Te Ching
Hi, the user (A bird in the hand) has been identified as a sockpuppet of a banned user Zephram Stark). I am going to remove his contributions to this talk page.  I will probably go ahead and delete the entire section.  If you have any major objection to this, let me know.  I didn't want you to be suprised to find your posts deleted.  --JW1805 (Talk) 21:42, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

JCW
Well, first, a citation has to be more than "I heard it" (see WP:CITE). Secondly, what is the justification for considering this of sufficient notability or significance that it merits a place in an encyclopædia? --Mel Etitis (??? ??????) 21:48, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

By that logic, shouldn't the ENTIRE article be removed? Why is all of it BUT the last call worth the justification of being in an encyclopedia?

Secondly, shouldn't the other calls be removed if they aren't cited? --Dr. Floyd 21:54, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

reply care
I am sorry for the unintentional grammatical mistakes. I shall take care henceforth.Thank you for pointing it out.However,I deliberately made it "Koya gram" rather than koyagram or kayagram.Because the source cited tells that Jarindranath was born at "...at Koya in Kushtia".Just Koya.While, in Bengali, "gram" means village.That is why I made it Koya gram.Please do not misunderstand.My intention was honest, but the way,maybe,was wrong.--Dwaipayanc 16:30, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi! The cited source just uses "..house at Koya in Kushtia".
 * Please look at these pages
 * ,,, where newspaper articles are just usinf Koya.In fact in the in this it is quite apparent that the Koya in Kushtia is probably the same Koya we are talking about in Bagha Jatin.Since I live not much away (may be 200 km) from these places, I am nearly sure.However, some wikipedian fron Bangladesh like Ragib may tell us for sure.If this is the case, we can leave out the "gram" and use "Koya" instead.In fact , the  Bagha Jatin/Temp2 had an interesting entry: "...at Kayagram (Koya) village" !! Please let me know what do you think.Bye.--Dwaipayanc 17:06, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * You are right that no Web reference of "Koya" as a village is found.However, the article cited in the article as source is much more referenced article than this Hindu Voice Website or the Banglapedia article.I mean the cited source itself cites so many references that the other articles we are discussing seem insignifant as a source of information for Wikipedia.In any case, we can place this discussion on the article talk page and see what other wikipedians, especially ones with geographic knowledge about the region say.What do you think?--Dwaipayanc 18:29, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

From what I can see, the village is called "Kayagram", and this means "Koya village". --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 18:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Jennifer Love Hewitt Article
Don't take these words as words of anger or anything, but I wanted to mention that I wanted to revert the revert you made. Without knowing the discussion on whether to use headings or not, I made several changes to the Jennifer Love Hewitt article, in addition to the adding headings. I realize that you oppose headings, but you disregarded the other changes I made by reverting an entire edit. I try not to change one single thing and hit the submit button. Instead, I try to change a whole bunch of things at a time, and then submit. That way, there are less edits. Anyhow, I was thinking of reverting my own edit, and removing the headings as you want. I believe that was your only objection. Anyhow, before reverting to my own edit, I'd like to let you know of this, because I think it is inappropriate to do so without letting the other person know. Stiles 04:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


 * This message is in response to your reply to the above message. For the sake of ease, I'll quote some of the things you've said, and reply to them.  Stiles 23:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


 * "You deleted a comment that included a citation for reasons that seemed simply to involve wanting to defend Hewitt."


 * Rather than debating what makes her a famous actress here, I'll mention it on the talk page. That will allow more space for discussion and more involvement from others.  By the way, I did not remove the statement because of my appreciation for Hewitt.  I removed it because it was a lone opinion that seemed to have been added for no other reason to insult her success as an actress.  Stiles 23:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


 * "You also added a (huge) image...I didn't think that its use in this article constituted "identification and critical commentary on the station ID or program and its contents"


 * I'll let you know right away that I am no expert in the field of copyrights, but I will mention that I am a paralegal, and it would be fair to say that I am more qualified in the area of law than a layman. Don't take that as an insult, but I'll give you an idea of how the issue of copyright works.  First, it's not a solid issue that has either a yes or no answer.  You may take this up with one court, and it may find that my use of the image does not constitute a violation of copyright laws.  A different court could have an entirely different opinion.  Also, whether the size of the image is huge or not is a matter of opinion, something a court would have to consider.  You say it is huge.  I say it is small.  There was another image that was used in that article, but it had nothing to do with the image that I used (one was of a movie, and mine was of a television show).  The fact that another image in the same article has the same copyright status has absolutely no effect upon the image I used.  Other than you disagreeing about whether the image's use is legal or not, you have offered no other reason.  Therefore, as it would in courts, it remains an opinion.  We can find a solution to this by talking about this on the talk-page if you insist on the image being removed.  Stiles 23:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Need magic admin rollback button
A new user named Jen L. has linkspammed dozens of Bollywood-related articles. I could try cleaning it up by hand, but it would take ages. If you're still "in the building", could you use the magic rollback button to revert all her edits? No good edits that I can see, just arrived in the last few hours and started spamming. Zora 00:26, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

In response to your message.
In response to your message I know nothing about it. I was just trying to clean it up. And thanks for clarifying the three edit rule for me.--Acebrock 02:59, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Smac02155
Fair enough, I won't move pages again.

But here's the rub. I am still getting reports that my people cannot find the Mait Jones page, even when I send them a link, like this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitland_Jones%2C_Jr.

Now, it could be that my friends are morons, but it is more likely to be a function of a bad browser interface or a bad link. You know that I have tried to handle this problem on my own; I am at a loss as to what to do next. Would you be willing to investigate?

Thanks, smac02155 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smac02155 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 5 March 2006

To avoid some confusion
Hi, I'm bored about us going on and on about a genuine case of cultural gap and differences that arose over a graduate - undergraduate tiff. Continuing to rely on novels and short stories for trying to get an idea is also pointless, so in mutual interest let's leave it there. These differences and confusions arise in any global interactions. I am happy you didn't take offense to my statement if I had any somehow slipped a rough word or two since I thought you were questioning my honesty on this.

P.S. I actually don't mind a failed RFA as it helps to concentrate on editing and less on admin tasks given that developments in my life have ensured that I might not have the luxury of being idle forever. But I don't have the heart to break this to my backers who feel I should let this process run its course. Cheers. :) Idleguy 18:10, 5 March 2006 (UTC)