User talk:Melburnian/Archive 1

Claytons
Hi Melburnian. Thanks for your information on Claytons which I have now rewritten and moved to the correct spelling. If you have access to a digital camera, it would be great if you could photograph the bottles in your possession and add that to the article. I can do any graphics preparation if you need help. dramatic 08:23, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Who I am and what I am doing here
Hello, I'm Myrtone (the strict Australian wikipedian). Get it, I'm a strict Australian wikipedian and I am senstive about wikipedia policies and language used in my talk and I am quite prepered to have big talks with administrators and even get a consensus (how do I get a consensus) for being able to enforce my requirements. Anyway, I'll leave you to it.

Favourite Foreign destination
Do you have a favourite Foreign destination? Myrtone (the strict Australian wikipedian) (talk)

 R o  gerthat  Talk  10:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Beaconsfield map
Hi, Welcome from me too. I really liked Image:Beaconsfield Tasmania Location Map 2.png. Since it is GFDL, you might like to consider uploading it to commons where it will be available for other wikimedia projects such as other language wikipedias and wikinews. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask on my talk page. Regards--A Y Arktos\talk 01:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Golden Wattle
Thanks for the terrific picture :-) --Arktos talk 08:32, 30 August 2006 (UTC) It is a beautiful spring day and I am changing my user name to Golden Wattle. I hope you don't mind if I use your terrific picture to illustrate my new user name.  I haven't got a good reason for Arktos and it is too indicative of the northern hemisphere and means bear in greek or or apparently the goddess of last light - too gloomy for me.  Regards--Arktos talk 23:50, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Well done on your work with Melbourne Town Halls
Great stuff ... I'm also trying to contribute myself. I've been working mostly through the south eastern suburbs you look like you're doing the northern suburbs, which is even better in terms of coverage ! --Biatch 09:48, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Elms
Dear Melburnian Much appreciate the excellent photos. Have suggested to editor MPF that the cultivar listings are restricted to their respective species pages, otherwise the main page will be overwhelmed. There are literally dozens of American, Chinese, Japanese and Siberian Elm cultivars raised in North America. Best wishes Ptelea 10:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Good work!
Just thought I'd say your work referencing and improving the Melbourne articles following the mass infobox upgrade has been noticed and appreciated. Orderinchaos78 12:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :) The infobox project would have been so much faster if I'd stuck to just upgrading infoboxes. For Melbourne I ended up designing an Excel spreadsheet to collect the data in bulk, then imported it into an Access database and created some code to translate it to an infobox. You'll find some random stuff around the place - like an entire article on Christmas Hills, Victoria which came into being because on looking at it in the Melway it seemed to warrant more than a stub, and Mentone, Victoria which made a bold claim about politics that turned out to be true, and ended up with a politics table. Some of these places I really want to visit now! Especially some of the more remote parts of the Mornington Peninsula, and the One Tree Hill reserve at Christmas Hills (I'll laugh if I see "Where did you hear about us?" in a visitor book) Orderinchaos78 13:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the good work on Mooroolbark. :) Orderinchaos78 05:17, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've been trying out this Inkscape thing for the route signs and thought I'd employ it to draw the intersection in such a way as not to murder it when it got shrunk to the size needed for the article. Orderinchaos78 05:46, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Love the images! You're doing a good job there. The Wonga Park one in particular is really nice. Re:Commons - you should create a category "Pictures by Melburnian" or something and put that in each of your shots so that you can keep them all together, and others can see your work :) Orderinchaos78 08:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries, I'm only passing on my own learnings of a couple of weeks ago :) One weird thing about having most Melb suburbs watchlisted is the weird vandalism one sees here and there. Like this: Orderinchaos78 12:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * My god, that was funny :) Reminds me of Winthrop (a Perth suburb) at its finest. Orderinchaos78 13:42, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Elms again
Many thanks for your advice on copying, regret still on a learning curve here. Merry Christmas, Ptelea 13:50, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Removal of redirect, Elms
Somebody has seen fit to redirect the Morton Accolade page in order to remove the trademark TM from the name, on the rather dubious pretext that it makes it look like spam. (A) I think this is nonsense. (B) He, or she, has only done it to this one tradename. (C) I don't know how to cancel the redirect! Would much appreciate your help. Ptelea 18:10, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Cheers
G'day,

I appreciate your fixing of my attempt to revert the vandalism throughout the Eucalypt entry. I had tried to revert to the previous 'clean' version of the article, but I'm still a newb at Wiki. Any advice toward combatting the vandals would be gratefully accepted, regards, Jugurtha3 02:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Citing APNI
Thanks for the comment. I love it when someone opens up a friendly discussion then waits patiently for a response instead of leaping in and making a change. So very rare. I must practice that more myself.

You are of course absolutely right. I've made the change. Hesperian 03:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Euan cummings
Hello. I notice you blanked vandalism on Talk:Euan cummings. The page did not have an article associated with it, so I deleted it.

The next time you blank a talk page with only vandalism edits, do check whether the accompanying article exists; if there's no article, add db-talk to the talk page so a sysop can delete it (per CSD criteria G8. Thanks! Awyong J. M. Salleh 01:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Kangaroo Paw
In re this edit, can you identify the plant, in that case? Jkelly 19:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Pardon my interjection; this is probably Anigozanthos flavidus (Tall Kangaroo Paw); see kangaroo paw for more information. Hesperian 02:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'd agree with that--Melburnian 07:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have updated the information at Commons.  Jkelly 17:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :)
Thank you for your kind words on my RfA! It's hard to believe that was over 3 months ago now... And as always the pictures on your user page are brilliant. I shall have to put up some of my own, although I don't think I'll be taking any today - 42°C heat :| Orderinchaos78 13:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Lyre Bird
I would like to license this image for use as a still on a television show. Is there a way I can contact you?
 * You can email me if you enable your email under "my preferences" while logged on and then click "E-mail this user" on the sidebar of this page--Melburnian 03:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot-assisted new article announcements
Hi Melburnian! I think you might be interested in
 * User:AlexNewArtBot/PlantsSearchResult
 * WikiProject Plants/New articles

Colchicum 23:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Grieve
Thanks for the copyedit to Brian Grieve; much appreciated. There's plenty of evidence to suggest that the 1831 Exhibition Scholarship is notable, so I'll probably eventually write a stub on it and revert the link back. Hesperian 04:25, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Good on ya mate! Hesperian 06:24, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 1851 Research Fellowship. Nice work.  &mdash;Moondyne 13:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

FloraBase
G'day Melburnian,

I suspected as much; sorry about that. I wish that next to the "hide my edits" buttons on my watchlist, there was a "hide that other bloke's edits" button. I often wish for it when Orderinchaos is on his article ratings rampages.

I'm sure you'll agree that Flora of Western Australia was a rather obtuse name for that template, and that FloraBase is much more appropriate. For the life of me I can't think why I chose such a stupid title. It had been bugging me for ages, and today I finally snapped. I think you and I are the only contributors who routinely use that template; since we're both aware of the move, do you think it would be safe to delete the redirect?

I cleared my user page to make some room for a troll who promised that "your user page is getting destroyed". It was my way of saying "like I give a f*ck". I haven't got around to posting something new yet, but I will eventually.

Hesperian 11:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * as for them mentioned above - I cannot vouch for them more than I get them drinks at meetups, trust them with my life on wikipedia and inhabit their wikipedia and gmail inboxes like flooding mud, apart from that not much else. I just noticed your eremophilla start and did the wa tag - not trying to be a wa based t at this stage :) SatuSuro 07:30, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah I still keep my enthusiasm for hakea rather than banksia - its just giving up time on the thousand other threads to get some more oomph and satusuro chaos into that department :) SatuSuro 08:50, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Census template
Hi :) Glad to see you're able to make use of the template... I've done a parallel set, Census 2001 AUS and Census 2006 AUS, because the ABS are probably going to do this to us again and at least next time one just has to tweak a template to get all the articles working. Orderinchaos 10:51, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries :) The other thing is some of those links were taking up 6 or 7 lines, the new one takes two and the code number is easily verifiable from the ABS site. I'd seen a few which had doubled population (this works in some outer perth suburbs, eg one that went from 150-odd to 5000+ between the censuses) but, yes, unlikely for an established Canberra suburb, for example. And argh - thanks for the alert. Not sure how that happened! I forgot a /ref somewhere, all fixed now. Orderinchaos 11:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello
I noticed your signature is a normal signature. Would you like me to make you a new 2 colored signature? RuneWiki     777 15:18, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Pfalz (ship)
Hi Melburnian. You are off to such a great start on the article Pfalz (ship) that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. Appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Again, great job on the article. -- Jreferee  (Talk) 02:28, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Email
I guess you don't check your Wikipedia-linked email account very often. Unless there was a delivery failure, you have a two-week-old email from me. Hesperian 13:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've tried again. If it doesn't work now, I'll light a fire in the back yard and try smoke signals. Hesperian 05:24, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

RfA
 Hesperian would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Hesperian to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Requests for adminship/. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state and sign your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.
 * I just noticed. I've posted announcements at WP:AWNB and WP:PLANTS, not that anyone will notice the latter. Good luck; I'm off. Hesperian 13:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I have added an optional question which you may wish to respond to. Giggy  UCP 22:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Interwiki
Hey, To link to a site like commons, you can use interwiki links, like this (link to commons). The wikimarkup for that is. Similarily, you can link to a page on commons like this: Main_Page ( Main_Page ). That way you don't have to use external links, and it'll update them if the sites ever move URL.

Just noticed you were using external links to commons etc, so I thought I would point this out. Thanks! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 21:46, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Discussion
A good idea, ... sometimes :P But seriously, I'm glad you started that discussion. I can see the merit in both, however my ratio is one to five blue links in my stubby articles. Two redlinks if I intend to write it one day. Thanks for the reply. Regards, ☻ Fred|☝ discussion |✍ contributions  23:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism Thanks
Hi Melburnian, thanks for the work on helping to revert the vandalism some idiot's been putting on my user page. I'd never even seen it until I went to update it today and happened to look at the history to see how long since I last updated and saw the edit war. So thanks again. --jjron 06:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Getting in first
If I'm not much mistaken, your RFA is due to finish up in about five minutes, with 87% support, making this a fairly straightforward and uncontroversial promotion case (although of course it is not a vote and the actioning bureaucrat must use xis discretion). I'm about to log off for the night, so I hope the actioning bureaucrat will forgive me if I preempt the apparently obvious result and congratulate you on the promotion. Well-deserved. Hesperian 13:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, you are now an administrator
I'm happy to inform you that, due to your successful request for adminship, you have now been promoted to an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or stop by the administrators' noticeboard. Congrats! Andre (talk) 13:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the underworld, may you use you mop wisely while navigating the sewers of wikipedia. seriously congratulations. Gnangarra

Congrats and commiserations. Just try to keep editing and not get too bogged down with the crap. &mdash;Moondyne 13:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Indeed there will no doubt be a lot more of what all they are alluding to - well done SatuSuro 15:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * ^But there'll always be cleaning up after noob editors who never learnt to indent properly ;) Well done! --Steve (Stephen)talk 09:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Congrats mate!! Well done and look forward to seeing you around as a fellow admin. :) Agreed with all the others' comments. If you ever need any help or advice or second opinions don't hesitate to drop me a line, I did it plenty when I was a brand new bearer of der Mopp. Orderinchaos 17:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Good job! Politics rule 18:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Problems on the horizon
Yeah skittles maybe, but under the feet and the beer over the head while in motion :/ SatuSuro 07:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Re : I was a bit embarrased to have it receive the attention. Your expansion of the 'bushtucker' aspect is very good, I was going to emphasise that point tonight. This is from Smith in 1793, Thanks for rescuing it, very nicely done. I notice congratulations are in order, good on you for taking up the role. Regards, Fred ☻  08:23, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * "In compliance however with those who do not look so deep into natural knowledge, we here introduce to their acquaintance almost the only wild eatable fruit of the country we are about to illustrate. ... said to have a very fine flavour, not unlike a roasted apple."

Upload image query
Hello Melburnian & many thanks for your response of 02.40 28 August. Have followed your instructions which resulted in a page in Wikimedia Commons titled Image:Experimental vortex.JPG (I registered as User Gwickau)but can't work out how to place the image into the Wikipedia article Vortex engine. Additionally I went to the Wikipedia article 'Vortex engine', 'Edit' then inserted Image:NameofImage.jpg|right|thumb|Caption, with double Geoffrey Wickham 00:28, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Apologies for being a nuisance. I followed your instructions. If you go to Vortex engine, History, it shows the result.Geoffrey Wickham 01:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)--- Finally got there ! "one small step for he who knows, a big step for an old bloke". Many thanks Geoff Geoffrey Wickham 02:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries, it's one of the more convoluted processes on Wikipedia --Melburnian 03:01, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Still having a difficulty
Despite typing up the image upload procedure still having a problem. I endevoured to insert an image into article Telectronics. Image box inserted but not image. Would you be so kind as to have a look & tell me what I did wrong ? Hope this is the last.Geoffrey Wickham 01:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, you're a mate. I'll bone up on copy & paste.Geoffrey Wickham 01:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Davies cordata?
Please take me to your source - my sources would suggest gastrolobium bilobium heart leaf - cheers SatuSuro 23:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah, not Heartleaf - leaves are all wrong. Hesperian 00:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree with Hesp, and pretty sure that it's Daviesia cordata based on and  --Melburnian 02:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't get sucked in by the flowers, Satu; nearly all the Mirbelieae have flowers like that. Hesperian 02:49, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Crisps excellent website will solve all in time - havent got go through it systematically yet. I have at least two species within 100 metres of my letter box - will get around to check it all against up to 5 diff refs in the shed for practice, sigh - thats before the web based info SatuSuro 04:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

One down
Thanks for that - some useful hints from that - I have a copy of gardner and bennetts and am using Paczowska and Chapman as my main template for the list - though the wandering between the various changing desicrptions I am trying to make my mind up on that - cheers and thanks! SatuSuro 12:20, 15 September 2007 (UTC)  btw - i think we need to do an art on crisp - do you have much on him? SatuSuro 12:21, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

FloraBase
Thanks for chipping in. You realise, I hope, that the ids have stayed the same only for species. For genera they have changed. Not sure about subspecies and varieties yet. Hesperian 03:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It just occurred to me, rather too late I admit, that this means that if we simply updated Template:FloraBase to be the same as Template:FloraBase2, the only links that would break would be the non-species-level ones, as the level=s|f=090 stuff would simply be ignored by the template. This means we could stop converting species-level links to FloraBase2 right now, and instead adopt the following procedure:
 * Change all the non-species template calls to FloraBase2;
 * Update Template:FloraBase;
 * Change all the calls to FloraBase2 back to FloraBase;
 * Remove the spurious level=s|f=090 stuff from species-level calls at our leisure.

What do you reckon? Hesperian 03:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * My apologies for this edit I don't know whay I did that. &mdash;Moondyne 12:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC) Actually I do know why I did it, its just that I did it wrong. ;( &mdash;Moondyne 12:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

List of botanists by author abbreviation
Should Robert Brown "R.Br." be indexed under 'R' rather than 'B'? &mdash;Moondyne 08:58, 17 September 2007 (UTC) Nah, forget it. &mdash;Moondyne 09:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe we need a note there that it is sorted by surname order --Melburnian 09:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It says at the top that it is a list by botanist abbreviation. You could ask, 'what is the list for'?  If I have an abbreviation "R.Br." and have no knowledge of botanical standards (as is the case) then logic says I would look under R.    If it was a list by botanist name (and I knew the botanists surname), then I'd look under B.  &mdash;Moondyne 09:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You have a good point - I've put a proposal on the talk page of the article --Melburnian 11:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Much Respek Aie
Hi Melburnian, great user name! :D WikiTownsvillian 03:52, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

PlantNET
Evidently my bizarre decision to create the FloraBase citation template at Flora of Western Australia is contagious. Someone has created a PlantNET citation template at NSW Flora Online. I was thinking I might move that template to PlantNET, fix it up a bit, then push it into these pages. Any comments, suggestions, words of advice before I begin? Hesperian 00:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * On reflection, New South Wales Flora Online probably is a more appropriate name. Hesperian 00:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, given that the Flora of New South Wales is just one part of PlantNET (e.g. it covers topics such as "Aussie Algae"), its probably not quite right to use PlantNET for the template name. I think I slightly prefer NSW Flora Online over New South Wales Flora Online to keep it more condensed in edit view. I'm all for converting the cites to templates, as you know I'm a great fan/user of your APNI and FloraBase templates. While we are on the subject, do you think a template for eFloraSA would be worthwhile? --Melburnian 03:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay re: "NSW". Yes, eFloraSA should be done too I suppose. I wonder if there are others we don't know about.... Hesperian 03:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Haven't come across any others but it's always possible --Melburnian 04:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Gawd my talk page - I own them (most of the books mentioned) but have only rediscovered - so please patience if I dont always keep up with you and hesp - bit slow (should see how slow it is to get things done in commons my imac dosnt want to use commonist :(  SatuSuro 06:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries with that, I'm in no rush, I'm working on a couple of hundred stubs that I'm hoping to get to FA status by 2047 ;) --Melburnian 06:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Laughed my head off at that. It's funny because its true. Hesperian 06:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Looked long and hard and thought of about three alternative responses to aspects of this and decided to not place them here, may you both have a good day whats left of it SatuSuro 07:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

If you still have Wrigley and Fagg to hand (as I have not), can you please check if it gives a common name, and indicate on the talk page. Hesperian 13:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. I think this is close to as obsessive as I've ever got wrt an article. Hesperian 01:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Good catch
Hey there, saw your revert and 100% agree, I had a guided wildflower tour and didn't check my assumption of what I'd heard it been called(Grevillea bipinnatifida).

I've just been through every(!) Grevillea photo in florabase for, unfortunately there are a few pics there that are seemingly close matches but nothing I'd bet the house on, for example this but it doesn't seem spiky enough.

Any chance you would be able to help identify it? I'll have to delete it from commons though as it is wrongly named - the only thing worse that no picture is a wrong picture... I have a picture from further back of the complete plant if that would help?

If anyone is interested in helping or can identify WA wildflowers precisely, I have a few more to upload that I'm not 100% about also, if you're game? Any watchers of this page feel free to jump in...

I think I identifed this correctly but now I'm doubting myself...
 * http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Elythranthera_brunosis_SMC_2007.jpg

Cheers SeanMack 12:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for agreeing to help. It's late now, but I'll get a few pics on here over the next few days. Cheers. SeanMack 15:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Finally got them uploaded... Here you go - they were all taken on a bush walk in Jarrahdale, Perth, Western Australia (14th Oct).







Good luck & Cheers SeanMack 15:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've put in my first IDs and some links for further research, I'll hopefully add a few more later on after some checking, others passing by are welcome to chip in with an opinion. Our resident Stlyidium expert is Rkitko, User talk:Rkitko, you could drop a note on his talkpage, and for Drosera you could pace the image at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Carnivorous plants.--Melburnian 02:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

D. B. polycephala
Very nice, thankyou; I shall make it a priority to bring that article to a state worthy of the image.

In 1980 a "living collection" of dryandras was started at Cranbourne by Alf Salkin, to complement the collection of banksias that was already there. At one point there were over a hundred dryandra taxa growing there. Some never really established, lack of water killed some, P. cinn. killed some others, some died of old age without recruiting any seedlings, but they say there are still plenty there if you look hard enough.

Hesperian 12:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Cavanagh (2006) says "the natural bush is beginning to recolonise the area", which suggests to me that it was never part of the open-to-the-public gardens. Hesperian 13:18, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Stylidium
Tonight when exercising the dogs just noticed there is a very smaller pink variety that has followed weeks and weeks after the 'some sort' above on your page - will try to get a close up and/or id in next day or so SatuSuro 13:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ooops - if i just realise what is going on - maybe to the others will communicate - this was a diversion from the note that will be starting gastro's again next week sometime, sigh.  Was photographing some very very sick banksias on the river side parks in ballina nsw last weekend sigh SatuSuro 13:28, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Odd - in a very overlawned area (rsl homes on side of river estuary) near where the last bridge before the ocean - about 3-5 metre high banksias - and a couple of them deadparrot dead - a few others struggling. might have an image of them amongst the wedding photos :( SatuSuro 23:34, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Any idea
You're ill-advised to ask me when you've got access to the editor of the Banksia Study Group, the one and only Cas Liber. Actually, perhaps I'm short-selling myself, as he confesses himself not all that great with not-much-cultivated western species, and I was able to identify this one immediately. It is Banksia praemorsa (Cut-leaf Banksia). We do have an image of the species, but it is of the yellow-flowered form, which is actually quite rare. Red-maroon inflorescences are far more common, so your image is a better exemplar. Hesperian 12:49, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. Ask around for other opinions - you should have no trouble finding someone who will tell you its a Callistemon. ;-) Hesperian 12:50, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Any idea II
I was about to add this to the imageless Grevillea bipinnatifida article, but was stopped in my tracks by the fact that the leaves are not at all bipinnatifid. Can you identify? Hesperian 00:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Following on from this this, SeanMack came up with this possible ID (Grevillea wilsonii) (see above) which I am reasonably confident is correct. --Melburnian 02:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry, I see you've already been through this. I've just been playing around with FIST, which I've found to be an absolutely brilliant tool. Have added 44 images to Category:Flora of Australia articles this morning. Hesperian 02:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Just uploaded a picture of Grevillea bipinnatifida which I took on the weekend. I spotted FIST at Signpost, but haven't "driven" it yet...you have put it to good use! --Melburnian 03:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again. Hesperian 11:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a tad washed out in places, but beggars can't be choosers. Only 163 image-less taxa to go :-( Hesperian 11:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

thanks!
For reverting the vandalism to my user talk page. Cheers! de Bivort 18:07, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

ID
Can you id a banksia I photographed at Lakes Entrance, Victoria, at ? (Pic of the whole tree and a closeup of one flower)

I may try to improve on the tree one, but it is 35 out here and I'm feeling it :P Orderinchaos 02:06, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I can give you the species; Cas could probably give subspecies. But I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader for now ;-) Hesperian 02:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's a Banksia integrifolia, I'd guess the subspecies as Banksia integrifolia subsp. integrifolia, having perused the fine featured article on the topic :) --Melburnian (talk) 03:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys - another one, see above link again for next two. It may not be a local, it was in somebody's garden, but I thought my shots were good anyway :) Orderinchaos 02:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, it's a local. Hesperian 03:27, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well...local to South Africa ;). They are two different cultivars of Leucospermum - nice shots! --Melburnian (talk) 06:17, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Bennelong
Turn on the TV dipstick  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.209.160.51 (talk) 11:22, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I presume you refer to my reverting your entry to that article. That was due to you stating an election result as fact before it was declared, misinforming readers. --Melburnian (talk) 14:17, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Informing?
Ha! No it's not, it's complete canvassed support for your editors! Have your little support if you so wish, there's no beating the australien cabal.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  10:38, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Town halls
Belated Merry Christmas btw :) I saw some mention that you're doing stuff with town halls - I'm finally getting all the old LGAs done, do you have any information (other than location, which I have from the 1993 Melway) about these? Orderinchaos 07:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries :) Feel free to add any references you know of to the LGA ones too (I see you've done that with Williamstown) - I'm going to do all for the Melbourne region, including Mornington Peninsula and Geelong, but don't know if I should do any of the rural ones. This partly comes about as the result of a massive amount of research I did in SLV during a trip over there in November, as well as a handy bit of bidding on Ebay for old Melways. (Next time we shall definitely have to catch up - I'm guessing late 2008 at this stage) Orderinchaos 09:01, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Yay! After two weeks of work, almost all the LGAs are done and in - I only have the Shire of Eltham and a few southern cities (Sandringham -> Chelsea/Dandenong) to do. So now I suppose it's a matter of figuring out how best to enhance them. Orderinchaos 01:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL... yeah I'm trying to get it done and out of the way so I can get onto the rest of my backlog (WA politics etc). Orderinchaos 01:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I know that they say that you never precede any difficult manoeuvre with anything more predictive than "watch this", but keep an eye on my contribs over the next couple of hours. My recent contribs will give some clue as to what I'm up to. Orderinchaos 05:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to say that you're doing a fantastic job with getting photos of some of these rural town halls. It adds a nice touch to the article. Rebecca (talk) 11:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Houtman Abrolhos
Thanks for the kind words and the copyedit. Making lists is trivial - it taxes nothing but my gumption. The hard bit is writing nice prose, especially on subjects about which I know next to nothing. As a result, the main article is a patchwork of thorough sections, half-cut sections, and stubby one sentence sections. Learning about oceanography was fun, but I confess to being too terrified to make a start on the geology section yet. I'll get there eventually. Hesperian 02:28, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Good on ya mate. Hesperian 00:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Volunteer for the Plant Project -- eh?
Nice of you to volunteer for the plant project. They evaluate articles without reading them. Can you provide me a list of articles in which you evaluated without reading so I know that you are one of them before I revert your edits? -- Carol 23:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I read all the articles that I evaluate, so no. If you have concerns with the evaluation process for WP:PLANTS you should take it to the talk page there --Melburnian (talk) 23:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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HNY
Although absent in every sense of the word for some time now - i must say that some months down the line and I'll be back to haunt you and others over the issue of some stray gastrolobiums and other thingimies - have a good new year! SatuSuro 09:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah well rolf harris's tie me kanga down may well have to be re- writ in times to come with something like let me camels go loose bruce - its the warnings of the funnel webs coming out of the lawn where i am at the moment due to excess rain that has me more on edge than either the teenagers camels or whatever - cheersSatuSuro 20:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the links - Yeah well the greyhound bus got through (with no mention of floods or delays) and the the younger two of the intrepid family clan on travel across australia in two cars just as the fuel prices rises, the northern rivers flood, and the younger one discovers he dosnt like cbds of busy cities etc etc, stays stuck in sydney and the eldest driver of the clan rediscovers sydney driving style after many many years etc etc - etc etc oh well trust your new year is going well cheers SatuSuro 05:30, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page
The two sections you just re-added to the talk page have already been moved to the archive by the bot. 68.220.222.29 (talk) 01:34, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out - now fixed --Melburnian (talk) 01:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

MV Steve Irwin Photo
Very nice Photo! Well done. MickMacNee (talk) 10:36, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank for the note! --Melburnian (talk) 06:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi
If you ever run out of things to do (as if), I just discovered, to my great surprise, that Stackhousia is a red link. Hesperian 12:07, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate. This place spoils me; you drop one hint and viola! it is done. Can you imagine how miserable I would be if I expected such service from my employees, my children, my wife? Hesperian 10:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Not intended. Which makes you the clever one, not me. Hesperian 12:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

With the understanding that you can start to ignore me at any time, I thought I'd point out an even more outrageous redlink: Ptilotus! What the hell is going on, man? At a guess, this would be the most species-diverse Australian genus not to have an article. Hesperian 13:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * We call them Mulla Mulla over here. Which is a much better name (nerrr). Hesperian 00:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

"blued one red link but created 17 new ones in the process". How many you say? Over a hundred this time I think. :-) It would be interesting to plot unique redlinks by time. Logic says it should peak at some point, but I suspect we haven't reached that point yet. Thanks again; you're a dynamo. Hesperian 12:05, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, will do; thanks. BTW I have just this minute discovered that we must say adieu to our beloved Halosarcia. Hesperian 12:44, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I was pondering the same question. I think it would be most in keeping with the principles of systematic botany (which maintain Halosarcia as a valid and well-defined, albeit non-current, name) to create a separate article on Tecticornia, and overwrite this article with a redirect. That way, if this decision were to be overturned, or if someone decided to write an article on the defunct taxon, the article history would be in the right place.
 * However, it is entirely possible that I have thought about this way too hard, and we should just do the obvious thing.
 * Hesperian 06:08, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Eamon Sullivan
Thanks for that...I probably should've done a quick search myself...but yeah, FAs are much more fun to work on! Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 08:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Channel Deepening Project
Hi, thanks alot for changing the article title to its official name :). Davido321 (talk) 11:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

persdict
G'day,

Just thought I'd share my discovery for today. Here you can download a dictionary file containing all names of WA plant species, the idea being that you can add the file as a custom dictionary to Word, and terms like "argyrophylla" will no longer come up as spelling errors. If you're running Firefox, as I am, you can achieve the same by copy-pasting the contents of the file into persdict.dat in your Mozilla profile directory. Of course it would be better if it covered all of Australia, but I suspect this will get you 90% of the way.

And while I've got you, here's a mystery for you. Today I heard mention of a plant recently discovered in WA, which turns out to be the most basal flowering plant yet discovered, preceding even the split between monocots and dicots. Amazingly, it was found growing in a Kenwick truck yard. So far about a hundred of the world's leading plant taxonomists have made the pilgrimage to the sacred truck yard to view the plant. I wrote down the genus on a scrap of paper, but now I can't find it. Google has failed me. :-(

Hesperian 11:32, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It turns out I'd scrawled a couple of words into Notepad and saved it on my laptop desktop - "a scrap of paper" indeed.
 * The genus is Hydatella, not a new genus by any stretch of the imagination. Research last year placed the Hydatellaceae near the root of the flowering plants. I am left wondering where the Kenwick truck yard comes into it, and whether someone has made a lot out of very little. Perhaps a new, most basal species has been discovered. I don't know. Hesperian 11:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for that userpage cleanup. The culprit has been blocked. -- Longhair\talk 07:16, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Melb LGAs
Finally got the last 6 done today - they've been outstanding for a while. Now at uni so I have a lot less time than before - trying to get the WA Politics stuff going :) Orderinchaos 08:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Elvis Helicopter
Crop away ! I'm a bit disappointed though - I was there while the firefighting was going and almost got a shot from 30m of Elvis refilling from the reservoir - Was shooting while the car was moving and a blasted tree got in the way - Peripitus (Talk) 01:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You are correct - I have the wrong heli ! ... will fix up this weekend - Peripitus (Talk) 02:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Elvis?
No sighted here yet (darling range) - but maybe one day - grastrolubium seems far away in one sense - about to start again soon - have been trawling various arts in euc and others that dont have very good regional locality identification in lead sentences - some eucalypts are abysmal - the south west i am choosing is a good link for the wiki user not geographically ept in the western australian sense - but my system of editing on this is closer to chaos theory than heisenberg - distraction and real life assisting SatuSuro 06:42, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * comes to mind as a stub state which has inadequate lead sentence or locality info, and despite what might be a very limited distribution to correlate to the map - a very poor cousin to some others (articles that is) SatuSuro 07:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The stub on reflection is not bad compared to some - I suppose it was a phase last year exposed to some eds trying for GA and FA thingoes - the importance of having a clear lead sentence that spells out where things are - sometimes no mention of australia or the region of location at all - but your point about the article is true - it is a good stub that way i agree SatuSuro 08:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Time to archive?
64kB, my friend. I think it's time you bit the bullet. Hesperian 10:54, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Florero
Hi, I noticed you are helping to remove spam on Houseplant. I have notified the offending editor, but in the process of expanding the houseplant list, I noticed the two large photos in that section have very prominent tags for this very same Florero product that spammers have been advertising on Houseplant. Not that a commercial product can't have photos taken of it, but I am almost positive that the uploaders of these photos (some months ago) were also involved in spamming. Is this a conflict of interest, and should some sort of action be taken concerning these not-so-good faith photos? The photos are very clear, but it irks me to see people seemingly taking advantage of this system.--♦♦♦Vlmastra♦♦♦ (talk) 02:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)