User talk:Melecie/Archive 1

Your HelpDesk answer
Your enthusiasm is appreciated, but this answer to a help desk question is not really helpful. You are suggesting is a WP:REVDEL but I doubt you are really familiar with what, since you suggest to request it on an admin's noticeboard. Also, when you have to write I don’t know if it’s allowed, but I think it is, it is generally a good indicator that you should not have made the suggestion in the first place.

I would suggest, if you want to continue answering questions on the Help Desk/Teahouse, to strive to wikilink each part of your answers so that (1) people you respond to can read the full guidelines if they want and (2) you can check beforehand what you are about to say. Tigraan Click here to contact me 11:08, 4 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Yup, it was RevDel, not really in my mind that time. I guess that is true too Tigran. Thanksies for the tips!~ SoaPuffball (talk) 12:53, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Similarly your reply at Help desk was incorrect. Enthusiasm is admirable, but it is wise for new users to learn a bit more about how Wikipedia works (and where to find the answers) before they try to answer questions. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:01, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Signature link update
The link to your userpage in your signature is still your former username. While the link isn't "broken", it is better to update that link so that other editors can use the right username when trying to send you a WP:PING. You may do so at your Preferences at Special:Preferences under the "Signature" section. Paste the following into that box:. Thanks! ◢  Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 06:28, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅, as mentioned in Teahouse -Melecie- talk! 07:15, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Readding WP:SELFREDIRECT links
John Pierce (musician) is a redirect to Pablo Cruise. As WP:SELFRED clearly states "avoid linking to titles that link straight back to the page on which the link is found". If you look at the page history of John Pierce (musician), you can see that it was redirected to Pablo Cruise due to the lack of independent notability. I'm not trying to disrupt Wikipedia in any way, but I honestly would like to know why we should keep the status quo on the Pablo Cruise article. I don't want to start a WP:WAR. I'm gonna start a discussion at Talk:Pablo Cruise so that we can get consensus about whether or not to retain the WP:SELFREDIRECT links.2601:153:881:3D60:2888:FE7B:1A22:B020 (talk) 08:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, I understand! -Melecie- talk! 08:45, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much! Hockeycatcat (talk) 08:22, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * (late) welcome Hockeycatcat! •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 02:48, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Harrington rod
Hi, Why do you keep deleting my grandfathers history?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C4:4001:1390:790E:C35F:7271:8D83 (talk) 02:41, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi IP user! I did these reversions due to being considered WP:Original research. Generally, sources in Wikipedia are cited by a secondary source, so if you can find a published source proving that your grandfather indeed had the first Harrington rod, then it can be accepted. •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 02:48, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

April 2021
Hello, I'm ArglebargleIV. I wanted to let you know that one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Roman Empire (disambiguation)—has been undone because it appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thank you. ArglebargleIV (talk) 02:25, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi ArglebargleIV, seems like we both reverted at the same time and you undid my revert. Should be all fixed now. •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 02:27, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh my, I am so sorry about that! I'm glad it's fixed now. -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 07:42, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

it's fine, although now I'm kinda worried if I do the same since I revert so quickly •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 13:28, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

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Regarding Dayana Yastremska
Hello I did edit of dayana Yastramaka page and jelena ostapenko page but you removed it. Actually whatever i edited was truth i was working with them for as tennis coach. Can you please restore it.thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drgauravdavee (talk • contribs) 13:59, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi! yes, I did update the page Dayana Yastremska, however I didn't update Jeļena Ostapenko. unfortunately, using your own memories as a source isn't acceptable for wikipedia, and proof in the form of WP:Reliable sources, ones published in a notable or published source. if you can dig up news sources that show that yes, you indeed were the one who coached yastremska, we would likely accept it (although you still have to note WP:Conflict of interest if you indeed are davee). if not, then sadly we are unable to add it to the wiki as it is unable to prove through published sources that you coached yastremska. thanks! •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 14:13, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * pinging as I was unsure if the above edit was eligible for a ping  •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 14:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

hi
diancie is a cool pokemon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dripdripdropdroop (talk • contribs) 03:40, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

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I don't know how I only just saw this, but thanks anyway! -- DL 6443 (Talk/Contribs) 06:44, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

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Lourdes Faberes
Hi Melecie, I’m not very good at knowing how to edit my profile on Wikipedia. I don’t understand why it keeps going back to whatever it was someone wrote. It’s my life. If you want me to verify, we can message contact details privately and we can zoom and you’ll see it’s me. I don’t know if you work for Wikipedia or i have to verify with someone from Wikipedia but it’s getting tedious trying to edit and re-edit what people think is the truth but it isn’t. Like my citizenship. I am eye rolling. A lot on this issue. Anyway, please let me know how to contact you directly or how I can take this matter up with Wikipedia. Thank you. Lourdes Faberes Anonymous1141 (talk) 19:29, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi ! editing your own profile in wikipedia is strongly discouraged due to a wp:conflict of interest. as clear looking glass mentioned in your talk page, using sources by active journalists is much better in wikipedia than using yourself as a source, asking me or anyone to zoom to confirm you is still not possible as a source (even if I do accept). if you indeed have had your nationality switched to british you'd likely have been interviewed by a couple journalists regarding it and it must've been published to a site or paper already, feel free to discuss it with us once you've gotten one (but again due to conflict of interest, it's much better to drop it in the talk page than edit the page directly). •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 23:39, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

This is all very triggering. It’s like having to fight all the battles all over again in order to belong. It’s very disheartening that a person is discouraged from saying the truth about her own life. Every time I try to correct it, you revert it back to telling me what you think I am. I don’t want to talk about it the “talk page”. I just want it to be correct as people use Wiki and it affects many areas of my life. But nobody said the internet was a fair place. This is very saddening. Ah well. Anonymous1141 (talk) 07:27, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


 * hi ! un/fortunately, we here try to keep wikipedia as fair as possible by treating everyone to the same set of rules and not enforcing article ownership of any kind. I think that ideally, wikipedia would be able to accept primary sources from notable people to be a better and more accurate source of information, but unfortunately in the real world this opens the door for possible impostor accounts to insert false information under the name of the original account. while you may not be an impostor, we have to keep the rules fair for everyone, to prevent impostor accounts and other disruptive editors to use legitimate examples as precedents for possible disruption. additionally, we are unable to take primary sources through zoom as readers will be unable to prove these themselves unlike a secondary source. thanks, •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 13:44, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

pls don't spam people
why are you spamming me with some automatic bot-like content on the talk page? having to deal with such automatic content now has the effect that i will less likely make any edits in the future. 95.129.201.254 (talk) 13:24, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi! unfortunately due to the fast-paced nature of monitoring recent changes and fighting vandals or unconstructive editors, I am unable to send out a handwritten (in the closest sense of that word in the internet) response so I have to warn or welcome people through WP:Twinkle or WP:RedWarn. welcome to Wikipedia, thanks for helping revert vandalism, and please don't let the templated responses scare you from editing, most of us are people and not bots (most bots just do housekeeping or anti-vandal stuff if I'm correct). and no, before you ask, this isn't a a templated response. •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 13:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi I have not made an editing error
the fact is that the previous editor has made the error of providing false biased and harmful information about our goddess. Please do not remove my comment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lk568354 (talk • contribs) 04:43, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi ! firstly I'd like to say that I am not in the same religion as you and know nothing about hinduism, so I can't provide any help about this. however, judging by your talk page, you have a history of edit warring and reverting in Durga. I think your best bet is to stop reverting until you get to another consensus in the talk page regarding this. any more reverts past this point will be a definite violation of WP:3RR, which you have been blocked before over the same page in the past, so if your edit gets reverted please start up a discussion in the talk page instead. (additionally, just a reminder to sign your posts using ) thanks,  •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 05:35, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * fixing ping:  •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 05:40, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * How do I get another consensus? And How to I get a part of the talk page? I have mentioned a lot of valid comments in the talk page in the past and I have been blocked before for no apparent reason than editing out improper insulting comments for our goddess. I will revert it back, but I should not be blocked. I am not violating anything if I'm doing what's right. If you call this a violation, then you are acting biased towards me. I am going to revert it back because I don't know where else to make my case in what page because I have tried everything in the past to prevent reverting my edits, but apparently there are a lot of idiotic and radically backward people out there who only want to present what their made-up fantasy is (yes what they claim is made-up and therefore I am correcting it). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lk568354 (talk • contribs) 05:46, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:Ignore all rules is not a substitute for talk page discussion. I'm not the best source for dis/proving this, so the best source to discuss it is in Talk:Durga, and maybe bring up some widely known texts as well, because if it should be widely known, there will be religious texts somewhere that state so: these are your key to proving your case and getting a consensus on your side. thanks, •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 05:57, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Henry A. Wallace
Hello, I saw that you reverted my edits in the Henry A. Wallace article because they look like unexplained removal of text. I’m actually working on consolidating two duplicate sections within the same article that list his own published works in the same article. I didn’t include an explanation because I thought I’d be able to move the text over where I wanted it before anyone noticed it was missing but I guess I was wrong haha. Sorry about the confusion, I should have made a more diligent effort to leave a record of my intentions. Neighborhood Review (talk) 09:59, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi! it's fine haha, I just tend to indiscriminately remove most, if not all, large deletions of text without a satisfying edit summary because I tend to think they may likely be more accidental or bad-faith blankings than good-faith edits. thanks! •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 10:04, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Changes of S M Junaid Zaidi
Hello! Hope you are fine and doing good. You have sent me a message that ive made changes without proof. Dear! the text I've added is clearly written on the website of Comsats University main page under his name and picture. What else proof do you need? Here is the link attached from where you can verify. https://www.comsats.edu.pk/AboutCIIT/founderRectorsProfile.aspx

Best Regards Shuja Khan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shujakh1509 (talk • contribs) 11:47, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi ! unfortunately directly copying material from another website to wikipedia is forbidden, even when cited, unless it has a license that is compatible with wikipedia (cc by-sa 3.0). additionally, you didn't give a reason to remove the allegations section, if you believe it is incorrect why not reach for a consensus in the talk page? •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 12:52, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Chokha
Hello, Why are you reversing my edits? What constitutes a reliable source? Why are Georgian sources that are obviously biased deemed more reliable? The Georgian user is reverting back my changes, his edits are clearly influenced by ethnocentrism. Please explain what I'm doing wrong and how I can keep my edits. Normiehater (talk) 05:35, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi ! I reverted your edit as you moved a quote Nowadays, chokha is no longer in use but continues to still be worn for ceremonial and festive occasions. without moving its reference as well, making it uncited. additionally, it seems like you're engaged in a WP:EDITWAR in the page. I am not the best source for determining who is less biased here, the best place for you to decide that is over at Talk:Chokha. thanks, •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 05:56, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Tejashri Pradhan
Sir at that point I am trying to update the real information... Sir there are some people updating false information I am trying to update true information including source PA12194 (talk) 06:45, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Now I have added the source of some news articles. Have you deleted it? PA12194 (talk) 06:45, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * a response has been given at their talk page. •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 06:53, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Please
...don't tag something like this for being unreliably sourced. Drmies (talk) 02:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * noted, I think I tend to assume good faith too much... •Melecie!•  ~talk~ 02:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It happens. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

my page
Hi,

I have tried to fix the info on my page several times in the last week as I am starting a new job and wanting the info to be correct and each time I do it it reverts to the old false information.

How can I ensure that the edits to my page remain permanently?

Two immediate changes are important. Both Personal Life and Filmography sections are false. Can you please delete them.

Also, a number of the Basic Info about me, where I studied and Film Career, are false. How can I make permanent changes? Even my picture is not me.

I want my page to be accurate, please.

Thanks very much.

Professor Hisham Bizri — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmbizri (talk • contribs) 04:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


 * hi ! the best way to ensure your edits don't get reverted is to back them up with WP:Reliable sources, usually journalistic or news articles in your case. however, going through the wikipage about you, I've noticed that much of the article relies on primary sources anyway, which isn't really an excuse, so I put a Primary sources tag on it. while theoretically I can just purge the page away for not having reliable sources, but that would basically amount to reducing it to a state where it can be speedy deleted, plus I want to give time for people to give edits. and finally, you might wanna read on both WP:Conflict of interest which discourages editing articles about you, and WP:Own, which states that even if it's about you, you cannot "own" any wikipage. • | melecie |   t  05:13, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello,

Can't you just "purge the page away for not having reliable sources?" I can't tell you the trouble this page gave me in my personal life (it is all false and has lead to ups) and in my professional life (one false employer threatened to sue me for publishing false information) to my academic life (I never went to any of the schools listed or taught there).

I so appreciate your help.

Thanks very much really.

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My page
Hello Again,

I am not sure I know how to read talk. I just saw another message from you but I was unable to read the update.

Is it related to my request to purge my page away for not having reliable sources? Will you be able to do that? It will really safe my personal and professional life.

Thanks very much.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Hisham Bizri — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmbizri (talk • contribs) 05:41, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi again ! unfortunately I cannot purge pages away due to subject request. deletion of pages in wikipedia is avoided unless there is no way for a page to be improved, which I do not think is the case with Hisham Bizri. I think people can likely rewrite the article instead, and if an article can be improved, editors would likely prevent the article from passing through WP:Articles for deletion, so I have instead tagged the article to inform other editors to add secondary sources and maybe rewrite the article. thanks, • | melecie |   t  08:16, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Self-reversion on Sushil Kumar. Mistake?
Hi, did you really mean to immediately self-revert your own edit on Sushil Kumar here? Based on the timestamp, it was instantaneous, so I assumed it was an error and undid it. If I am wrong I apologize, but really, even if the facts are correct, he has still not been shown to be WP:NOTABLE for this. Johnnie Bob (talk) 12:53, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I apologize, I reverted for "I'm unsure if this is not a valid edit, so reverting it because other editors would judge far better than me". thanks. • | melecie |   t  23:47, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Loren P. Woods COI editing
Anyways, I am seeking input from other involved recent changes patrollers for how we should handle the WP:COI editing on the Loren P. Woods article before trying to restore the page yet again or post something on WP:COIN, but I wasn't sure if you have pings turned on. Sincerely, Randompointofview (talk) 18:48, 16 May 2021 (UTC).

Ken Boswell (rower)
Kia ora

Thank you for your message. After doing some research, I believe the original information on KJB was wrong.

There were 2 Kenneth James Boswells living in NZ around the same time. The original article had KB's DoB and DoD as 1912-1984, whereas my research has him as 1910-1971. I base this on the Electoral Roll evidence (found on Ancestry.com):

KJB 1912-84

Appears in the Electoral Rolls of 1954, 57, 63, 69, 72, 78 and 81 as single and living in North Shore, Auckland.

KJB 1910-71

Appears in the ERs of 1935, 38, 46 and 49 as single and living with his parents David and Mary in Petone or Hutt (Wellington). In the WW2 Ballot List of 1941, he is at the same address as listed in the 35 and 38 ERs. In the ERs of 1957, 63 and 69 he is married to Doris (nee Mullaney) and living in Heretaunga, Miramar and Karori (all in Wellington). There is a Death record for him on NZ's BDM in 1971 and, while I cannot find a grave record, he does not appear in later ERs. (Doris is living by herself in 1972, 78 and 81 ERs.)

The only digital evidence is from the ERs on Ancestry, but if I can't use Ancestry as a source, how do I provide verification? Any help on this would be appreciated. Thank you

202.56.38.62 (talk) 21:30, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

May 2021 Information icon Hello, I'm MelecieDiancie. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Ken Boswell (rower), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. unfrotunately, ancestry.com is not a reliable source • | melecie | t 03:18, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


 * hi! verifications for someone like Boswell would come with reliable news sources and features. for example, Michael Jordan's main source in the first biography paragraph is provided by the Chicago Tribune. I advise you to look for news features, biographies, and interviews to support the claims instead of ancestry (which is occasionally a valid primary source), which quoted from WP:Biographies of living persons, Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses.. if you have any other questions, feel free to ask. thanks, • | melecie |   t  23:46, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Zoroastrianism
Hey, I made a couple of edits and added my sources to the bibliography. However I don't know how to add a 'source link' or whatever it's called hence my information was removed. Azbuzz (talk) 03:48, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe I can help you: so, you'll use the  tag and the Template:Cite book for this.
 * for the first tag, you'll use  to make a new reference. then cite book's documentation states the following variables: , where last and first are the last and first name of the author, date is date of publication, title is the book's title, url and location is what site and the link you got the book from, publisher is whoever published the book, page is the page you got the ref from, and isbn is the isbn number of the book.
 * so, this ref will use the following code, if you want to cite page 4:
 * after this you may put a closing ref tag.
 * if you want to cite this again, all you need to do is place this code  and the page will regenerate the old reference to put it at that spot again. if you have any further questions, feel free to ask. thanks, •  | melecie |   t  04:24, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Loire (musician)
hello, you removed my edits of the page but I was not done adding sources and citations. I am new to wiki and revising this entry at the artist's request. I was adding in new links and footnotes, but I'm just learning to the page wasn't finished. please don't remove the new content. thanks. sorry, I'm learning as I'm going 9editor21 (talk) 03:09, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * apologies for the trouble! • | melecie |   t  05:30, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

purging a false page
Hello again,

I am still trying to edit my page but it keeps reverting to the old false information.

Can you please please help me? This page is false and it is hurting my family and my work.

I very much appreciate your help.

Thanks.

Hisham

Hmbizri (talk) 08:11, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * hi thank you for leaving a comment in Talk:Hisham Bizri. unfortunately, we are unable to delete a page due to the subject's request, as we do not consider any article as owned by anyone, and we tend to improve pages if possible instead of delete them if possible, which I believe it is. as Jmabel said on the talk page, if you want to help improve it you may provide reliable sources to support that you studied in harvard university. feel free to ask if you have any further questions. •  | melecie |   t  02:38, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Heo Hwang Ok
குமரிக் கண்டம் அழிந்த பிறகு, அங்கிருந்து வந்த பெண் தன் நாயகனுக்காக காத்திருந்த இடம் என்ற பொருளிலும் ஏற்பட்டிருக்கலாம் என்பது அறிஞர்கள் கருத்து.இரண்டாயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்பு கன்னியாகுமரியின் பழைய பெயர் "ஆயுத்யா நாடு"(Ayuthya Nadu) எனவும், கொரிய இளவரசி Heo Hwang Ok(செம்பவளம்)யின் பிறந்த இடம் இதுதான் எனவும் ஒரு கருத்து உள்ளது. பண்டைய பாண்டிய நாட்டின் ஒரு பகுதியாக கன்னியாகுமரி இருந்து வந்தது. Anuxavier30 (talk) 03:58, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi unfortunately I do not speak tamil. if my google translation is correct "Scholars suggest that the name may have been derived from the fact that after the destruction of the Kumarik continent, the woman who came from there was waiting for her hero. There is feedback. It came from Kanyakumari as part of the ancient Pandya country", then I'm assuming you are trying to add these as a source through tamil wikipedia. unfortunately, said page does not exist in tamil (although it does in english: Kanyakumari), and besides citing wikipedia is not allowed (see WP:CIRCULAR). if you have any questions, feel free to ask. •  | melecie |   t  04:46, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

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Regarding List of Philippine films of the 1950s
Why do you have to remove the entire entry when you could have removed only the copyrighted text since it is the only one affected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.148.95.222 (talk) 15:43, 24 May 2021 (UTC)


 * hi IP user! from my quick search, you seem to have taken a paragraph from this blogspot blog, with the rest of the content regarding man on the run being fully unsourced (which is also often on the grounds for removal). additionally, firefly used WP:RedWarn, which reverts consecutive users at a time, so they may've thought that the rest of your edits may've also been copyright violations when they weren't. I've restored your edit on the malvarosa section, which seems to be good faith edits. although I think would be able to explain this better than me as they reverted this edit. •  | melecie |   t  01:35, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Your signature ...
is very difficult to read. Please change it so there's more contrast, different colors, or whatever would comply with WP:SIG. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I hope. i'm not sure if it was because times new roman is not very readable in small sizes or if color contrast is terrible, so changed both to be sure. • | melecie |   t  01:35, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks much better! Thanks for being so cooperative. By contrast, see WP:ANI. I don't recommend reading the whole thread. It's enough to make one despair of the processes at Wikipedia. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 22:40, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Ken Boswell (rower) (2)
Kia ora

I left a message on your talk page one (two?) weeks ago about the changes I had made and the research I had done, and asking for your help seeing as Ancestry is "not a reliable source". That message has disappeared for some reason, so I was wondering if you had seen it or if I should try re-posting it?

202.56.38.62 (talk) 04:10, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi! this message is in my talk page archive, which you can go to by clicking in the box above stating "Archives: 1" or clicking in the links over here. if you have any further questions, please leave them here. thanks!
 * for reference, my response was "verifications for someone like Boswell would come with reliable news sources and features. for example, Michael Jordan's main source in the first biography paragraph is provided by the Chicago Tribune. I advise you to look for news features, biographies, and interviews to support the claims instead of ancestry (which is occasionally a valid primary source), which quoted from WP:Biographies of living persons, Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses." • | melecie |   t  05:18, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

My dear melecie diancie
I am right.why didn't you watch gaboon viper live feeding vid before doing ur article editing thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prithvi Nath 1994 (talk) 12:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi ! youtube videos are not reliable sources for wikipedia, do you have any scientific articles or journals indicating so? • | melecie |   t  00:41, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Temple Christian School (Titusville, Florida)
Hi. I noticed you tagged the above article for notability. I, for one, wouldn't oppose a PROD. However, in the meantime, the title is incorrect. It should be Temple Christian School (Florida), as it is the only school in the state, but not the country, by that name. IPs can't do page moves. Thanks. 174.212.211.200 (talk) 06:55, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi! unfortunately I'm not too famillar with the subject matter (I just go around and do gnomish work, copyediting, or RCP) so I'd suggest you ask around other editors about this. thanks, &#9678; | melecie |   t  13:29, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

danilo maldonado machado
I removed content because it was construed in a false and defamatory manner. I have now revised again this page, this time not removing the content but revising the false information out of it. and adding that the restraining order was ex parte which means on the so-called victim's sayso. I took out the part that said "He threatened her with violence" because the link is dead and it was a from a Cuban propaganda source. The Cuban government is trying to discredit the subject because he openly opposes their government and the link was bad. In addition, I added that the so-called victim failed to even show at the actual injunction hearing and that the injunction was dismissed. And cited the source. BonnieSmerdon (talk) 13:52, 29 May 2021 (UTC)Bonnie Smerdon
 * hi! thanks for explaining your edits. I'd advise bringing the topic up to the Talk Page instead to discuss about the topic, and how neutrality can be achieved since there are sources supporting both sides. thanks, &#9678; | melecie |   t  13:58, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

REmoved exrta link:
hi melecie, myself is raj, Actually i added a link of Textile institute to panipat. Why this is important ? If you will search why panipat is famous these days then you will find that it is famous for its textile industry. at present IPTT is the number one institute and provides education on very low fee to the students. when a person completes the high cost educations still strugle for jobs, then IPTT where students comes from differnt districts, makes them able to get goods salary jobs. So if you are writing about panipat then it is incomplete without mention of Institute of Professional Textile Training (IPTT).

you mentioned other highly expensive collages names like piet or nc those students never gets jobs even after paying lot of lots amount and the most the number one institute you dont wants to add.

Please be kind and add it.. institute of professional textile training (www.iptt.in) (IPTT, Panipat) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajkosik (talk • contribs) 15:05, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hi ! unfortunately, the link to iptt does not pass wikipedia's policies regarding external links. it seems like you are trying to advertise iptt's education services, which wikipedia is not for (see WP:PROMO for further detail), no matter how good they are. while we may mention other colleges, we primarily speak of them to explain them in an objective manner, and not to promote them or their services. &#9678; | melecie |   t  15:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Reese Laflare Plagiarism
Hi, I understand instagram is not a reliable source but it is the only one available due to the scale of the situation. Reese LaFlare is a big personality while the accuser is only a student and not much influence. Recently, Reese LaFlare has been accused of stealing artwork from a student and using it in his merchandise without crediting or paying the original artist. If you take a look at the source, you can see all the definite proof that backs up the accuser. Hope I’m making sense Wikideets (talk) 01:43, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * hi! unfortunately wikipedia only covers events large enough to gather the attention of journalists or news outlets, so unfortunately you would be unable to add this wikipedia as it seems like its scale is too small for wikipedia. it's not because the accuser has little influence as a student, as it's possible if they get a lot of support, the news would pick up the story and report on it. &#9678; | melecie |   t  01:56, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * pinging &#9678;  | melecie |   t  01:57, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm still basically a "WikiKitten" but I'm replying now
You wrote: Hello, I'm MelecieDiancie. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Rock balancing have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. ◎ | melecie | t 02:34, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

My reply: Hi, MelecieDiancie Thanks 4 welcoming me. Kudos to you for your WikiGnome gardening... you must care a lot about rock balancing to watch that page so carefully. My additions were in good faith because the name I added was at least as notable as the others in the list. Hopefully someone out there will be experienced enough to write a great page for Travis Ruskus, (The Rock Balancer's Guide), with all the proper sources. Then he can be officially added to the Notable rock balancers list, (once he has a Wikipedia page up). Maybe you'd be up to write it more objectively? Look him up in his articles and interviews by independent sources, here (scroll down to "Press / CV"): https://www.travisruskus.com/contact

Follow.your.inner.heroes.2.the.work.you.love.2021 (talk) 10:16, 4 June 2021 (UTC) 
 * an answer has been given in their talk page. &#9678; | melecie |   t  14:08, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Modification and improvement
I want to advice to improve China related facts Faizal shaad (talk) 09:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * hi ! instead of listing down trivias, you may put these facts in a paragraph in the article. for example, the statement China is one of the formost countries in the field of population. has already been outlined in the same article List of cities in China by population in the first paragraph: China is the world's most populous country. as well as the second statement China was the first country who issued the currency on paper. which is in the section Early Chinese paper money of article Banknote as The first banknote-type instrument was used in China in the 7th century, during the Tang dynasty (618–907). specifically, avoid doing a list of facts that can instead be written as a paragraph, and make sure your paragraph is relevant to the article you're editing (for example, a statement about paper money doesn't make sense on an article about population, even if they both involve China). happy editing! &#9678; | melecie |   t  09:23, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Edits on the threesome page
Hi! I am pretty new to wikipedia editing so wondered if would mind explaining the comment regarding your removal of the recent edit I made (this is not meant to be an attack, I am genuinely curious and trying to learn). The comment references 'self-published' source- does that relate to link to the website? Or is that the book discussed (which being published by an academic publisher, does that count as self-published?). Being that there are not many people who research on the topic the page is about, what is the best way to talk about my own work without it being removed? I was still planning to continue updating the page with a range of other scholar's work (as I have already done) but would also like to include my own. Again, not meant to be an attack and thank for your help :-) Ryanscoats (talk) 10:22, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * hi ! if I recall correctly your edit seems to have added a book that you published which is discouraged under WP:Self-published sources as anyone can just claim to be an expert on something, publish a book, and use that as a wikipedia source. however there is a possibility that I may have acted too hastily if that has been peer-reviewed (and I do not frequent that field so I don't really know who in there are notable), feel free to revert if you believe I did. &#9678; | melecie |   t  12:58, 12 June 2021 (UTC) &#9678;  | melecie |   t  12:58, 12 June 2021 (UTC)


 * excellent, thank you for your help :-) Ryanscoats (talk) 08:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * no problems, happy editing! <3 &#9678; | melecie |   t  13:27, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

French toast - Wentelteefjes
Dear Melecie,

The Dutch version of French toast is called Wentelteefje(s). See also the Dutch Wikipedia page: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wentelteefje

When translating the first part of the text, by using Google translate, you will be referred to French toast:

"....French toast, also lost bread or gained bread, is a sweet bread dish. It is popular for breakfast in much of Europe and North America. Slices of bread are soaked briefly in a mixture of milk and eggs and then baked. Finally, the baking is sprinkled with sugar and cinnamon if desired....."

If you would literally translate the name wentelteefje(s) you get a description that isn't even allowed on Wikipedia..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.166.6.202 (talk) 08:01, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * hi IP user! I reverted your edit as it isn't sourced, and using another wikipedia article as a source is not allowed (see WP:CIRCULAR for more information about why). however, feel free to re-add this description if you have a source or local article saying so, and maybe add some facts about it as well like about local flavors. happy editing! melecie   t  08:32, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't it then be necessary to remove other national variants mentioned underneath the French toast Wiki?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.166.6.202 (talk) 09:03, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about the reliability of the other sources listed in the national variants section (I don't frequent food pages enough to gain an idea of what's reliable and what's not), however generally, using wikipedia as a source other than in wikipedia-related pages (which then counts as a primary source) is not accepted due to circular reporting. if you don't know how to source yet, please see WP:REF. happy editing! melecie   t  10:13, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Regards to User:SobySobea
I have reported this user to the Admin's Noticeboard here: diff for repeated reverting and blanking of your talkpage. If you would like, you are free to make further revisions or edits to the complaint. Best of luck! Augend (drop a line) 07:13, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * thanks! happy editing as well! melecie   t  07:23, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Everton foreign club
Hi Melecie, looking at Everton F.C. talk history i noted that you are one of the authorized author's for the article. I think that we should transfer the long sentence listing of foreign support clubs from the Everton F.C. to Everton F.C. supporters. And maybe turn that into a list. How do I go about doing that? I want to add the | NYC supporters club to that listing. Rybkovich (talk) 20:28, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Technical close of edit requests
Hey Melecie, just a heads up: when you answer edit requests, don't forget to change the "answered" parameter of the edit request template from "no" to "yes". Thanks a lot! Cheers. JBchrch  talk  02:32, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * thanks for the reminder, i keep forgetting to do that. happy editing! melecie   t  02:39, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Stepping on each other's feet on Queen of England

 * well to be fair, I tripped over myself in the same page as well. happy editing! melecie   t  02:36, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Handbook for Mortals reverted content
Hello, I just had a question about an edit you recently reverted for me on the page Handbook for Mortals. The edit that had been made removed information that came from two user reviews posted to the social media platform Goodreads. Was just wondering whether or not this information should indeed be left there, or if it would be considered a valid source under Wikipedia's standards. Thanks. PetSematary182 (talk) 01:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC)PetSematary182
 * apologies! it does fall as an unreliable source under WP:RS/P, edit has been reinstated. thanks for catching the error, and happy editing! melecie   t  01:28, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Text Messaging
Hello Melecie, and thank you for your welcome message.

I joined Wikipedia to add information to the entry on Text Messaging, citing three sources as well as a reviewer summary, to have my information removed by another editor named "discospinster" claiming that "secondary sources" for the addition to the historical record were needed.

The information with citations were:

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In 1964, Anastasios J. Vasilatos conceived of a 2-way wireless communication system for his Master's Thesis, as a graduate student at the Illinois Institute of Technology, to fulfill his Masters Degree in Product Design.

The title of this thesis was “The Citizens’ Two-Way Telecom Network". The subject of this book is ‘Text Messaging’ conceived in 1964 and completed in 1970.[4]

Vasilatos’s system laid out the concept of text messaging using the FM wireless radio bandwidth to transmit and receive alphanumeric characters and/or symbols. An Electronic Switching System is one of many components used within the network to support the transmission and receiving of coded messages over the FM radio bandwidth between relay stations (Cell towers), located in positions to cover a 5 mile radius, overlapping one another to prevent gaps in signal performance.

The code used in this system provides the use of all letters in the English alphabet, all ten numbers, a space and four symbols. The hardware used for keying in, and receiving display information was designed utilizing 1964 technology.

The research, design and development of this network system took 6 years, and was completed in 1970.

A hard bound copy of this 228 page book on text messaging, is contained in the Smithsonian Institution, under call number: TK6553.V33 1970a.[5]

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The explanation for the revision removal states: "Thanks, but this is based on primary sources, we would need secondary sources".

What would other Wikipedia editors constitute as a "secondary source" as legitimate as primary sources World Cat, the Smithsonian Institution and or the Google Book review itself that references a summary of the thesis?

https://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=TK6553.V33+1970a

https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Citizens_Two_way_Telecom_Network.html?id=wYIQnQEACAAJ&utm_source=gb-gplus-shareThe

https://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=record_ID:siris_sil_195657

In regards to Secondary Sources, Wikipedia defines a secondary source as::

"A book review that contains the judgment of the reviewer about the book is a primary source for the reviewer's opinion, and a secondary source for the contents of the book.[16][17] A summary of the book within a review is a secondary source."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_source

The Google Books review at::

https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Citizens_Two_way_Telecom_Network.html?id=wYIQnQEACAAJ&utm_source=gb-gplus-shareThe

Specifically states::

"User Review - The subject of this book is ‘Text Messaging’ conceived in 1964 and completed in 1970."

How is that not considered relevant as a secondary source as defined by Wikipedia itself as a 'summary book review"?

Can you please clarify and if you can provide guidance as to what else supports the historical revision so that this thesis work providing the foundational research for text messaging can be reflected and credited accurately.

Thank you.

BruceKing36 (talk) 04:04, 25 October 2021 (UTC)