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'Midnight, our sons and daughters; they're cut down, taken from us Hear their heartbeats... we hear their heartbeats...'

Hello
Since you thanked me for my improvements, I've resurected Yahweh into an article again. Any advice? I plan on adding more info and a live performances section hopefully when I get more free time. BV talk 05:27, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks like a pretty good start after a quick skim. I can't really think of anything to advise beyond adding more detail into every section if it can be found. I've added find to the talk page; that might help you in finding mentions in articles, or even books that you don't have access to. It definitely helped me with "City of Blinding Lights"; more than I can describe in fact! It's pretty late here at the moment, and I might not get a chance to look at it in more detail until Tuesday night. If anything leaps into my mind in the interim, I'll definitely let you know. Cheers, Melicans (talk, contributions) 06:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

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Mothers of the Disappeared
Hi Melicans, I've placed your GA nom of "Mothers of the Disappeared" on hold and left some comments on the talk page. Cavie78 (talk) 17:41, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for reviewing! I'm just about to head out to class, but I should be able to get to them when I finish in a few hours time. Thanks again! Melicans (talk, contributions) 18:28, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

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Hey, thanks for getting my user page repaired. Don't know why user pages get attacked, you would think people have better things to do with their time ... Wasted Time R (talk) 11:34, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem at all. I was shocked with what they put on there. Obviously some sore vandal or disgruntled editor who thought it would be funny. Bastards, eh? Melicans (talk, contributions) 18:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

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U2 in Sydney - I'm in withdrawal
after 2 nights at the front... --Merbabu (talk) 09:56, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Hahah, after that performance I'm not surprised! I'm so jealous that you got "All I Want Is You"! Can't imagine how much of a thrill that must have been. Melicans (talk, contributions) 15:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Beautful Day
Actually I am thankful you amended teh presentation. I just didn't look at the talk page, before opening a section for Lee DeWyze, that's all. In any case I am adding further known versions. I had added Norwegian Kurt Nilsen, and now I just added added Sanctus Real. There is also a version by Axel Rudi Pell... It just shows you how popular the song is. But the legacy section didn't mention any of those. Many happy returns to you too werldwayd (talk) 05:41, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

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Do you have access to old newspaper/magazine articles?
I'm trying to access some old reviews of U2 albums from the early 80s, but the information is rather difficult to come by without archival access (e.g. Washington Post, LA Times, etc). And @U2's archives from these years is limited. Do you have any access to archives that might have these sorts of articles? Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 20:13, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I can check through my University's library once I'm back on campus in a few days. They may have something through the online database access. Are there any albums/reviews you're looking for specifically? Melicans (talk, contributions) 05:53, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I sent the same request to Dream out loud and he emailed me a few articles. Let me filter out the ones I don't yet have and I'll get back to you. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 18:32, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's a few:
 * "SPIRIT AT CORE OF 'JOSHUA TREE'" - Sacramento Bee: April 12, 1987
 * "RIGHTEOUS THUNDER IS U2'S LATEST" - Miami Herald: March 22, 1987  Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull;  contributions) 21:07, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

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WP:NSONGS
Melicans

Someone redirected Slug to the Passengers album citing WP:NSONGS. I am sure that it used to read notability is established by charts, awards, etc, OR existence of reliable sources. Yet, now I read it and it says AND reliable sources. That’s a big difference.

Any ideas? Cheers --Merbabu (talk) 21:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The funny thing about NSONG is that it doesn't even say that songs with awards, covers, etc. are notable; just that they are probably notable. My reading on it is based on this part: "Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album." This has always been my argument for having "Slug" as a separate article, and a merge discussion at Talk: Slug (song) midway last year affirmed that. I certainly feel that there is enough verifiable material that has led to a "reasonably" detailed article. Melicans (talk, contributions) 23:00, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * As currently written, the existence of reliable references is not a criteria for notability. It says songs must meet the criteria (awards, charting, etc) AND have reliable sources. That’s different to eith meeting the criteria of awards, charting, etc OR having reliable sources. Obviously, the Slug article depends on the latter interpretation – it would not look good at AFD under the former interpretation.
 * I’d love to know where that version of WP:SONG was and when (and if) it was changed. If it was not done with proper consultation/consensus then it should be restored.
 * cheers --Merbabu (talk) 05:15, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


 * If it comes down to a fight over interpreting the NSONGS then I'd argue WP:IAR - ie, ignore rules that don't help the encyclopedia. There is no way deleting this article (and others in the same boat) is going to improve wikipedia. --Merbabu (talk) 06:12, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

January 2011
What did I add on List of Primeval episodes??? I did nothing wrong. I only cited my edit. I copied nothing from another copywrite holder! This is sooo unfair. Please show me what I did wrong! If you dont, I am going to report User:Melicans. Thank You Kabilan29 (talk) 15:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The content you added in this edit is identical to the material on this website. You cannot copy information verbatim; doing so is a violation of copyright. Feel free to report me if you wish. You will only be told the same thing. Melicans (talk, contributions) 17:27, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

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Ok Thanks!!!
Thanks for letting me know. I wont do the same mistake agian. Sorry If I had a go at you but I thought you accused me for nothing I did. Thank You! Kabilan29 (talk) 12:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

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Primeval
An editor,, is wreaking havoc on Primeval and related pages, making a large number of ill-advised edits (eg, creating red links, anticipating future events). Both myself and AussieLegend have reverted him several times recently (and if we agree on anything, that is notable). But he continues. He's just now merged another page into it, making a hugely unwieldy article, and then continued to put his pet edits, already reverted several times, into it. He never comments his edits or engages on the Discussion page. I've already reverted him twice today, so I'll just get myself in a 3R if I try to fix it myself. Please have a look and advise. I'm now watching this talk page. Barsoomian (talk) 17:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you two are definitely in the right. It seems to have lulled for now but I'll keep an eye on it and if it continues then I will get involved in it. I'll leave them a 3RR warning on their talk page; if it keep going, a request for full protection may be necessary. There's already a merge proposal open on Talk:Primeval, right? So the user really has no reason to edit war without discussing it. Melicans (talk, contributions) 19:54, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * AussieLegend had just discovered this other related article that had been blanked a while ago and proposed to merge it and started a discussion. Zoltán preempted that. I looked at his history; he seems to have made a total of one comment on a discussion page in the last couple of years, and very rarely puts anything in his edit summaries. He's not a deliberate vandal, just ignores everyone else. Barsoomian (talk) 02:53, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

RE:The Lightning Thief PR
No problem! I'll try to provide more insight, then. Thanks, Guy546 ( Talk ) 19:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

"Irresistible" Peer review
Hi! Thanks for reviewing the article. I've addressed some issues you pointed out. Please do let me know if you spot more errors or issues. Thanks again. Novice7 |  Talk  06:25, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem; I've responded at the peer review about the rationale. If you have any questions just let me know and I'll get back to you. Good luck with the eventual FAC. Melicans (talk, contributions) 07:09, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi again! So, I added in some information to the sample, but couldn't find much. I'll be closing the PR on Sunday, so I wanted to ask if there are any more issues you'd like to point out. Thank you. Novice7  |  Talk  07:40, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope, it all looks pretty good. Good luck with the FAC. Melicans (talk, contributions) 09:03, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all your help. Novice7  |  Talk  10:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

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It isn't necessarily easy to track down more information for an image uploaded by someone else. By parsing the URL given already on the image description page, I find this more general information page. Going on a hunch and clicking on the Iran-Contra link takes me to to a thumbnail page that identifies the images as "C39273-16, President Reagan receives the Tower Commission Report in the Cabinet Room with John Tower and Edmund Muskie. 2/26/87." (This gives us the missing publication date and an ID number.) Backing up a couple of levels at the source site, I find here that the Reagan Library is maintained by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). Going on a hunch, I find a "NARA-image" template at WP:ICT that could be added to the image license page (in addition to a public domain license tag of some sort). As you can see, ferreting out the missing information is like other research, time-consuming and leading who knows where. I think there might be a better digital version of the image in the NARA archives (as opposed to the University of Texas archives), but I don't have time just now to pursue that angle. Hope this helps. Finetooth (talk) 21:33, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

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Another headbutting match is proceeding at. You do need to be familiar with the show and the webisodes to make sense of this; which I believe you are. The key fact, as I see it, is that the webisodes are clearly placed between episodes 23 and 24 chronologically, unlike some other shows where webisodes run in parallel with the main storyline. So I extended the numbering system to reflect that fact. The numbering I initially applied can be seen. Aussielegend found this offensive and replaced it with his own system. The rest, you can read at the link, if you have the stomach. Barsoomian (talk) 11:13, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

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City of Blinding Lights
Hello, Melicans. I am translating the article into Spanish. Can I upload your picture to Commons? Please answer me in my talk page. Regards, мιѕѕ мαηzαηα (talk) 22:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Miss Manzana (talk • contribs) 22:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, actually, I've finished it a few hours ago. Thanks for everything :)мιѕѕ мαηzαηα (talk) 02:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

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Turn up the volume on your speakers (or put on your headphones) and click on the youtube link below and try not to read the page. Listen and how long it is before you can guess (it's music). :-)

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Hi, Melicans, I'm currently translating Where the Streets Have No Name and I've detected a problem there. U2Gigs.com, as I've mentioned on the talk page, is not a reliable source, since it's a fansite. Since you are one of the main authors of the article, can you replace it for reliable web sites? I would be very grateful if you do so. Greetings, мιѕѕ мαηzαηα (talk) 22:03, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

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Primeval: New World
Where is the source that confirms that Itv will broadcast this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.96.7 (talk) 15:09, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * C21 Media. Melicans (talk, contributions) 15:20, 24 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't want to be confrontational, but I don't think I deleted (and/or reworded) anything that is in any way important. I don't see the point in retaining statements speculating about a deal after it has actually been made, for instance. It's not going to be a "good article" until it has aired at least, and by then there will be plenty of solid facts.  Please respond if necessary at Talk:Primeval: New World.  Barsoomian (talk) 15:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)