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Belarusian placenames
FYI, I started Category:Set index articles on populated places in Belarus. If you notice other Belarusian placename homonymy, please populate it or let me know. - Altenmann >talk 19:55, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. I already created a few disambiguation pages e.g. Zamastochcha, should I convert those? Mellk (talk) 20:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

On note of the Belarusians flag
The rationale behind it was it's common use by Belarusian cultural organisations throughout the world

Here's some examples off of commons

Also, here are some links to google i could find of this flag being in use.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Belarusian+Community+and+Culture+Center+in+Vilnia/@54.6845275,25.2794498,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNZbeS3DK6OnbHquGWFNuUZ4VjfhW-zhCg3CW1C!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNZbeS3DK6OnbHquGWFNuUZ4VjfhW-zhCg3CW1C%3Dw86-h114-k-no!7i3024!8i4032!4m11!1m2!2m1!1sbelarusian+lithuania!3m7!1s0x46dd95299dce6091:0x47c240620a8c5a6a!8m2!3d54.6845218!4d25.279685!10e5!15sChRiZWxhcnVzaWFuIGxpdGh1YW5pYZIBEGNvbW11bml0eV9jZW50ZXLgAQA!16s%2Fg%2F11t47vt7z2?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Belarus+Orthodox+Church/@43.6610098,-79.4426915,3a,75y/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipPUiB2u-UivPDCyHkhy9_B4v5s7_gdKAEbJrXIt!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPUiB2u-UivPDCyHkhy9_B4v5s7_gdKAEbJrXIt%3Dw203-h152-k-no!7i3264!8i2448!4m11!1m2!2m1!1sBelarusian+church!3m7!1s0x882b34416888695f:0x5dc50f7aa51a6b9b!8m2!3d43.6609694!4d-79.4428688!10e5!15sChFCZWxhcnVzaWFuIGNodXJjaJIBBmNodXJjaOABAA!16s%2Fg%2F1ym82kyhf?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/place/St.+George+Belarusian+Orthodox+Church/@41.9086203,-87.6908492,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipO0sRgbWx5Wx3V8ba3yrZz2oxmY-iS1Q-bfUgwi!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipO0sRgbWx5Wx3V8ba3yrZz2oxmY-iS1Q-bfUgwi%3Dw203-h270-k-no!7i3000!8i4000!4m11!1m2!2m1!1sBelarusian+church!3m7!1s0x880fd2a5b422b9a1:0x91e42364416eba04!8m2!3d41.9086152!4d-87.6910692!10e5!15sChFCZWxhcnVzaWFuIGNodXJjaJIBF2Vhc3Rlcm5fb3J0aG9kb3hfY2h1cmNo4AEA!16s%2Fg%2F1tdfnw2g?entry=ttu

I hope this is sufficient. 🤓 WeaponizingArchitecture  &#124;  scream at me  🤓 07:03, 14 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Yes, you are correct that it is still widely used, particularly by diaspora, but I still do not think that this can be considered an ethnic flag. The template documentation for Template:Infobox ethnic group says: Please be cautious about using this: most ethnic groups do not have a strongly associated flag.. Perhaps you can check if any WP:RS refer to it as such? Thanks. Mellk (talk) 07:16, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Russo-Ukrain War
Hi. You said, "Due to WP:RUSUKR, editors who are not extended confirmed (<500 edits) are unable to make edits about the Russia-Ukraine war, but can still leave constructive comments on the talk page or edit requests.". it would nice if there was a Protected or semi-protected notice on the page. There isn't one that I could find.PaPiker (talk) 18:36, 18 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Page protection is one way of enforcement, but it is not really feasible to protect all pages with such content. It also says: On any page where the restriction is not enforced through extended confirmed protection, this restriction may be enforced by other methods, including page protection, reverts, blocks, the use of pending changes, and appropriate edit filters. Mellk (talk) 18:39, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

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Sockpuppet
Sorry, I don't know how to say it for competent user, But it seems, that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cavide96 is a sockpuppet of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andriyrussu Noel baran (talk) 15:01, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Seems possible, I was watching Viktor Tsukanov and noticed they restored the sock edit. Do you have any other diffs that could be used as evidence? If you are unable to, I can submit a new case at WP:SPI. Mellk (talk) 17:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know exactly, but he made a typical editions (for Andriyrussu) with surnames and collided with another user: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cavide96. And all these editions, for example here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yvan_Dibango&action=history. Andriyrussu, after - 213.110.126.122 (maybe him), followed with his "reincarnation" Naxsy, and ended with Cavide96. Also Naxsy was blocked on 7 March and its created on 9 March ([|here]). Noel baran (talk) 18:47, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks like the account was indeed a sockpuppet and is now blocked. Mellk (talk) 03:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the help! Noel baran (talk) 04:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I do not think they are going to stop creating new accounts soon so if you notice any new accounts you can open a new case at the SPI (or add to open ones). Mellk (talk) 09:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are right, is created a new one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BunicaValea Noel baran (talk) 15:23, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * But I see, that it was already reported at the SPI--Noel baran (talk) 15:24, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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Vladimir-Suzdal chronicle(s)
Hi Mellk, I wonder if you would be interested in helping me write a new article on what is variously called the "Vladimir-Suzdal chronicle(s)", "Vladimir chronicle(s)", "Suzdal(ian) chronicle(s)", "Suzdal-Vladimirian Chronicle(s)", or "north-eastern Rus' chronicle(s)" (e.g. ru:Русские летописи)? I've been trying to set up a draft over here: User:Nederlandse Leeuw/SVC. But I can't really get a proper definition or scope of what it is, what it is or should be called, whether there was or is one or multiple "chronicles", and what we can say about it.

Currently, I think scholars are talking about essentially the same text covering the years c. 1177 to 1203, written in Vladimir on the Klyazma, probably in several stages (linguist Timberlake 2000 has identified 5 segments), and having been preserved in the Laurentian Codex (Lav.), the Chronicler of Pereyaslavl in Suzdal (ru:Летописец Переяславля Суздальского, LPS), the Radziwiłł Chronicle (Rad.), and the Academic Chronicle (Aka.). (There are probably later textual witnesses as well, but these 4 seem to be the most important). But elsewhere I am getting the impression that "Suzdalian Chronicle" just means everything in Lav. after the PVL, so 1117 to 1305. But the 1117 to 1177 content is usually identified as sharing a common ancestor with the Kievan Chronicle, scholarly known as the "Southern Rus' source", while the 1204-1284 seems to be a unique Laurentian continuation of the Vladimir-Suzdal chronicle, and the last few decades are commonly identified as copied from a lost Tver Codex of 1305.

All of this is a bit confusing to me, to put it mildly. ;) I've tried to visualise it here: User:Nederlandse Leeuw/Timeline Rus' chronicles manuscripts. I hope this can give some valuable insights into what we are talking about. Anyway, are you interested and able to help me write this article? I would imagine there is a lot of Russian-language scholarly literature on the topic that I cannot easily access and understand. If you're busy doing other things, that's fine. Cheers, NLeeuw (talk) 12:46, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I will have to look into it further but maybe the following is useful: Mellk (talk) 12:56, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey, I decided to publish it under the title Suzdalian Chronicle. If you've got some additions, feel free to add them. Cheers, NLeeuw (talk) 05:36, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Boris Yeltsin
Hello, I propose not to delete the important information about Boris Yeltsin's presidency. Please, first you have to discuss it on a talk page of the article. FlorianH76 (talk) 10:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The chronology does not make sense, first it says he ruled a hybrid regime with a superpresidential system then it discusses his initial reforms and the 1993 crisis with parliament, which happened before the superpresidential system was established. Also, none of this is discussed in the body. See MOS:LEAD. Mellk (talk) 11:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, maybe we can simply put this information after the sentence where the 1993 crisis is mentioned? FlorianH76 (talk) 11:12, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I already moved the text about super-presidential system to the section about the crisis. I also think saying he "ruled a hybrid regime" is a bit vague, though. Mellk (talk) 11:17, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * For example, look at these articles: Nursultan Nazarbayev, Ilham Aliyev. As you can notice in the articles about authoritarian leaders it is always mentioned what type of regime they established. Please, return the important iformation about Boris Yeltsin's political regime. FlorianH76 (talk) 22:15, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

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My edits
Good day! Please tell me why you are canceling my edits? I will be grateful for an explanation in advance.--Alex091981 (talk) 13:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:SEEALSO for guidance. Mellk (talk) 13:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I read the instructions. I seem to have added everything correctly, according to what was written: One purpose of "See also" links is to enable readers to explore tangentially related topics; however, articles linked should be related to the topic of the article.... All the links I have included are related to the topic. I'm not vandalizing, I'm adding links based on my editorial judgment and common sense.--Alex091981 (talk) 13:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You are adding those links to articles that are high-level overviews of those entities. Moreover, the articles you created look like WP:POVFORKs of the respective history articles. If you disagree, you can start a discussion on the talk page, if you so wish. Mellk (talk) 15:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

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