User talk:Meno25/Archive 17

AWB edits
This could be the poster child for useless, careless use of AWB. Making purely cosmetic changes and adding an "uncategorized" tag to the main page? Please be more careful with AWB. Thanks. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * And tagging a disambiguation page as "stub" and "orphan" is also singularly unhelpful. Please watch what you are doing: a page with a title including "(disambiguation)" is probably a disambiguation page and should be treated accordingly when tagging. Pam  D  16:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * And here is another purely cosmetic edit. From WP:AWB, Which I would hope you are familiar with, "Do not make insignificant or inconsequential edits. An edit that has no noticeable effect on the rendered page is generally considered an insignificant edit." You may want to consider scaling back your use of automated tools so that you can more easily manage them and ensure you are actually making desirable edits. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oddly enough, you're not the first admin to do this! Mark Arsten (talk) 17:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The tagging of the Main Page is partially AWB's fault. removed the restriction on Main Page. I may have to put it back. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Re-excluded Main Page from tagging. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:42, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Maintenance tagging articles with Menobot
Under which task authority are you allowed to add maintenance tags to articles with Menobot? Gigs (talk) 16:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Gigs: The BRfA is Bots/Requests for approval/MenoBot II (I am assuming that since I got the task approved that I can operate it under any of my two bot accounts.) --Meno25 (talk) 16:34, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * You should probably link to all the BRFAs from the bot's user page if you intend to use them interchangeably. I don't think there is a strict rule against it, but it is kind of a bad idea, because if there is an error that necessitates a bot block, we will have to remember or know to block all the bots.  It would be good to note that you do use the bot accounts interchangeably on both their user pages, or which BRFAs both bots are operating under.  Gigs (talk) 16:42, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Gigs: I will update the two bots pages with a description of all tasks. Thank you. --Meno25 (talk) 08:23, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

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Tech news: 2013-26
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Translations are available.


 * Recent software changes: (Not all changes will affect you.)
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.22wmf8) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on June 20. It will be enabled on non–Wikipedia sites on June 24, and on all Wikipedias on June 27.
 * Universal Language Selector was successfully enabled on the Catalan (ca), Cebuano (ceb), Persian (fa), Finnish (fi), Norwegian Bokmål (no), Portuguese (pt), Ukrainian (uk), Vietnamese (vi), Waray-Waray (war) and Chinese (zh) Wikipedias.
 * The new interface for account creation and log–in is now the default on all Wikimedia wikis. The old look is no longer available (bug #46333).
 * The TimedMediaHandler extension now supports native FLAC files. A discussion to allow this file type is taking place on Commons (bug #49505).
 * After a test period, the Disambiguator extension was enabled on the English Wikipedia on June 18.
 * VisualEditor news:
 * A VisualEditor bug temporarily made all new accounts unusable. The issue is now fixed and account creation works as before (bug #49727).
 * A high importance file insertion bug has been fixed, but the feature does not work perfectly yet.
 * It is now possible to synchronise local CSS and JavaScript files with the beta cluster. This should make it easier to test software features before they are enabled on live wikis.


 * Future software changes:


 * The default link to a help page on editing, visible below the editing window, will change on almost 600 Wikimedia wikis and will now link to MediaWiki.org (bug #45977).
 * Universal Language Selector will be enabled on wikis without language versions (such as Wikisource and Wikispecies) on June 25.
 * The AbuseFilter extension will allow filtering links and HTML code for page creations.
 * The related changes special page will now include upload log entries.
 * It will soon be possible to choose the language of SVG files that contain translations.
 * MediaWiki will now allow converting audio files from one format to another.
 * The Wikidata technical team has started a discussion about how Wikidata can support Wiktionary.
 * The search feature on Wikimedia sites is planned to be modified to use Solr on all wikis by the end of 2013.

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User:MenoBot at pl.wp
Done. Replied at pl:Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Meno25. Matma Rex talk 22:37, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Tech news: 2013-27
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Translations are available.


 * Recent software changes: (Not all changes will affect you.)


 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.22/wmf9) was added to test wikis on June 27. It will be enabled on non–Wikipedia sites on July 8, and on all Wikipedias on July 11.
 * On Wikisource, the canonical names of the "Index" and "Page" namespaces in the Proofread Page extension are no longer localized (bug #47596). Please check scripts that depend on.
 * A JavaScript problem caused the "" and "" tabs in the Vector skin to be moved into the drop-down menu on right-to-left wikis. The issue is now fixed and links are visible as before (bug #50196).
 * There was a short site outage on June 28.
 * The automated Category: now includes broken file links inserted inside the  tag (bug #50119).
 * The Nearby feature is now enabled on Commons and shows images in a user's area.
 * There is now a special page listing disambiguation pages for wikis that use the Disambiguator extension (bug #44040).
 * The old version of the Article feedback tool (version 4) was removed from wikis that still used it.
 * VisualEditor news:
 * Many bugs that caused text to be removed or damaged have been fixed, including one related to copy-paste (bug #49816).
 * VisualEditor now offers a visual interface to edit references.
 * In preparation for enabling the VisualEditor on a wider scale, new documentation has been created, including a list of frequently-asked questions and a user guide with many images. Please help with translations.
 * Several problems related to overlapping of elements with the VisualEditor toolbar have been fixed (bug #50096, #50159, #50324).
 * TemplateData information is now displayed for templates that are added to a page (bug #49778).
 * Section edit links now show links to both VisualEditor and the old (source) editor (bug #49666).
 * Images are now loaded securely when using HTTPS (bug #43015).


 * Future software changes:
 * VisualEditor will be enabled for all logged-in English Wikipedia users on July 1, and for all users on July 8.
 * From July 8, it will be possible to upload WAV and native FLAC files to Commons, and use them directly on wiki pages (bug-49505>bugzilla:49505|bug #49505).
 * The Universal Language Selector will be added to the English Wikipedia on July 2, and to remaining wikis on July 9.


 * Erratum
 * Tech news #26 incorrectly reported that audio transcoding was added to TimedMediaHandler; it was actually statistics about audio transcoding that were added.

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Tech news: 2013-28
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Translations are available.

Recent software changes (Not all changes will affect you.)


 * VisualEditor news:
 * VisualEditor deployment [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AVisualEditor%2FFeedback&diff=563042612&oldid=563038914 has been delayed] by a week. It is now planned to enable the editor for logged–in editors on chosen Wikipedias on July 22, and on all Wikipedias on July 29.
 * A bug that made it impossible to save VisualEditor edits that triggered a CAPTCHA has been fixed.
 * Several bugs that occurred on right–to–left wikis have been fixed last week (bug #49416, bug #49613, bug #50543).
 * Uploading files has been restricted on Meta Wiki to administrators and the newly created uploader group. An exemption doctrine policy is being developed (bug #50287).
 * Emergency priority CentralNotice banners will always be shown unless users have hidden them, ignoring cookies set for lower priority banners.

Future software changes


 * MediaWiki will allow choosing a specific page of a PDF document or a thumbnail of a video file to show up inside the  tag (bug #8480).
 * It will now be possible to create empty  messages, for instance in order to disable them (bug #50124).
 * The Nearby feature will soon be enabled on Wikivoyage wikis again.
 * The Notifications extension messages will now include a direct link to diffs on wiki as well as in notification e-mails (bug #48183).
 * Table of contents will now use the HTML  element instead of , fixing a nine–year–old bug #658.
 * First mock–ups of a mobile Wikidata application have been published by Pragun Bhutani as part of his Google Summer of Code project.
 * A discussion on minimum documentation practices in MediaWiki code has been started and awaits comments from the community.

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Baseball ratings
All the baseball articles that were left as automatically assessed were ones I had not gotten to changing from stub-class yet. If you're just removing the auto tag without reassessing then you just made a huge amount of work for me tracking them down again... Wizardman 16:18, 10 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Wizardman: OK. Point taken. I will redo the edits manually. Thank you for your message. --Meno25 (talk) 22:04, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Not a problem; checking the automatically assessed articles are useful, it's just always better to check manually. Remember that most of those assessments are from 2007-2008, so that's six years of editing that may have happened since. Wizardman  02:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Auto tagging articles is inappropriate (stop it)
A tag is a very heavy-handed ugly thing that just lingers on an article forever. It is a state of Wiki (of the design!) that articles are unfinished. Tags really belong on the TALK page as they are commentary on the article. And for that matter, instead of tagging, FIX.

And don't give my any crap about lists or categories...the damned bot can add hidden categories if needed. But tags are bad, bad news.

TCO (talk) 14:29, 11 July 2013 (UTC)


 * TCO do you mean tags like orphan in the article page or wikiproject banners in the talk page? -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:32, 11 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Orphan. (Talk page stuff is great and I approve.  But defacing tops of articles is extremely off-putting.  P.s.  I won't argue it...you have the commentary.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO (talk • contribs)


 * I'm not seeing a problem here. Numerous consensuses have said it's OK to tag articles  p  b  p  14:48, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Magio: He is probably talking about Perfluoroheptane specifically this edit.

TCO: There is a consensuses in favor of tagging articles with maintenance templates such as deadend and orphan. Many bots (including my bot) do this task and many users do this task with their primary accounts without a bot flag. So, I am not sure how can I help you here. If you want the maintenance templates to be added in the talk pages instead of in the articles, then I suggest that you raise this issue first in the Village pump. --Meno25 (talk) 15:09, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

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Carl Schmidt (Coptologist)
The article has been assesed as stub, but now is enhanced a lot. It contains enough details of importance to an average reader, has sources, literature, works, links and everything else that is needed for an article. So I request to assess the article again. --Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 10:30, 14 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Giftzwerg 88: Article reassessed. Thank you for your work on the article. --Meno25 (talk) 22:56, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-29
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Translations are available.

Recent software changes (Not all changes will affect you.)


 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.22/wmf10) was added to test wikis on July 11. It will be enabled on non–Wikipedia sites on July 15, and on all Wikipedias on July 18.
 * The Disambiguator extension was enabled on all Wikimedia wikis on July 9 (bug #50174). To use it, add the  code to disambiguation templates ([//de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=120414784&oldid=76564202 see example]).
 * The Universal Language Selector was added to all remaining wikis on July 9, finishing the process of replacing the Narayam and WebFonts extensions.
 * The CommonsDelinker bot is now on-line and operating again, after a password problem was fixed (bug #51016).
 * VisualEditor news:
 * According to the schedule, VisualEditor will be available to all users on the English Wikipedia on July 15.
 * Users should add TemplateData to templates to prepare for VisualEditor. A tutorial is available.
 * Parameters marked as "required" in TemplateData are now auto-added when you add a template (bug #50747).
 * Warnings are now displayed in VisualEditor when users edit pages that are protected or have edit notices (bug #50415).
 * Many other bugs have been fixed in VisualEditor during the past two weeks.
 * The Wikimedia technical report for June has been published, with a summary that can be translated.

Future software changes
 * A new version of the Single User Login system for global accounts will be enabled on July 17. Users will now automatically go back to the previous page instead of seeing the "Login success" page with logos.
 * The software that resizes images on all wikis will change on July 18. Resizing of big images will be faster and more reliable, and the resolution limit for GIF, PNG and TIFF files (currently set at 50 megapixels) will be removed.
 * Edit tags (mostly used by AbuseFilter) will now also be on diff pages. They include a link to Special:Tags before the edit summary. Wikis that use links in tag messages should remove them.
 * Global edit filters are currently in testing and will be added to wikis later.
 * Wikivoyage wikis will start to use Wikidata for interwiki links on July 22.
 * A new [//tools.wmflabs.org/bawolff/gallery/index.php?title=Featured_pictures/Non-photographic_media image gallery design] has been proposed by Brian Wolff; comments and feedback are welcome.
 * An IRC discussion about Bugzilla is planned for July 16, at 16:00 (UTC) on the IRC channel #wikimedia-office on Freenode (time conversion).

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Tech News: 2013-30
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Translations are available.

Recent software changes (Not all changes will affect you.)


 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.22/wmf11) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on July 18. It will be enabled on non–Wikipedia sites on July 22, and on all Wikipedias on July 25.
 * A new version of the Flow Prototype can be tested on Wikimedia Labs.
 * VisualEditor news:
 * The schedule to add VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias has been changed: the new editor will be available for logged-in users on the German (de), Spanish (es), French (fr), Hebrew (he), Italian (it), Dutch (nl), Polish (pl), Russian (ru) and Swedish (sv) Wikipedias on July 24, and for all users on those wikis on July 29.
 * A warning is now displayed if an edit made with VisualEditor matches an edit filter (bug #50472).
 * SpamBlacklist messages are also supported (bug #50826).
 * Users can now edit  blocks (bug #47678).
 * When a user types text at the end of a link, the link now expands to that text.
 * Freely-licensed fonts for the Cree, Inuktitut and Urdu languages were added to Universal Language Selector, fixing bug #42421 and bug #46693.
 * A Wikidata search plugin for the Firefox web browser was released by Jeroen De Dauw and can be downloaded from the Mozilla add-ons website.

Future software changes


 * The change of the Wikimedia image scaling system from ImageMagick to VipsScaler (announced in the previous issue) has been postponed until bug #51370 is fixed.
 * Administrators will no longer see an unblock link for autoblocked IP addresses on the contributions page (bug #46457).
 * A request for comments on site-wide CSS was started on MediaWiki.org.

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