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Tech News: 2014-32
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

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 * Tech News will be presented at the Wikimania 2014 conference in London! If you will be attending the conference, please join us in Auditorium 2 at 14:30 local time on Sunday, August 10.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf16) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on July 31. Due to the Wikimania 2014 conference, it will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on August 12, and to all Wikipedias on August 14 (calendar).
 * You can now test a new tool to render wiki pages as PDF files.
 * You can now download an update to the archive of Wikimedia Commons files (uploaded up to December 31, 2013). If you have free space on your computer, please help preserve the files.
 * New users using the mobile Commons site now need to make 75 edits before they can upload a file.

VisualEditor news
 * You will no longer see an edit confirmation message after making a null edit with VisualEditor.
 * VisualEditor will no longer change underscores to spaces in category sort keys.
 * Many bugs that resulted in inserting the pawn and snowman symbols were fixed last week.
 * Several bugs related to the use of references were also fixed.

Future software changes
 * You will soon have a user option to watch pages where you revert edits.
 * All Toolserver data will be deleted in September. If you want to back up your data, [mailto:ts-admins@toolserver.org contact Toolserver administrators] before August 31.
 * Pages in the  namespace on wikis using the Translate extension will no longer be indexed by search engines.

Problems
 * Wikivoyage wikis were broken for about 45 minutes on July 29 due to a configuration problem.
 * Some users were not able to log in on test wikis and MediaWiki.org between July 31 and August 1. The problem is now fixed.

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Wondering If you could help please
Hey mate I don't have much clue about computer programs however you went on a page and cleaned up some articles. Was wondering if you could help me the page in question still has this at he top and was wondering how to make it disappear?? This page is a new unreviewed article. This template should be removed once the page has been reviewed by someone other than its creator; if necessary the page should be appropriately tagged for cleanup. (July 2014) Page in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jordan_Macey&action=history&gettingStartedReturn=true

Either way it would be great to hear back from you. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Et1983 (talk • contribs) 23:34, 1 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi. I reviewed the article. --Meno25 (talk) 12:58, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2014-33
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes VisualEditor news
 * Due to the Wikimania 2014 conference, there were no MediaWiki changes this week. The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf16) will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on August 12, and to all Wikipedias on August 14 (calendar).
 * Bureaucrats on all Wikivoyage wikis are no longer able to merge two accounts into one.
 * Tablet users visiting the mobile version of non-Wikipedia wikis will be able to use VisualEditor starting on August 12. The feature will also be enabled on all Wikipedias on August 14.

Future software changes
 * Internet Explorer 6 users will soon see a JavaScript-free version of Wikimedia wikis; JavaScript tools and scripts will no longer work on that browser. If you use Internet Explorer 6, make sure to update to a newer browser!
 * If you visit a special page that requires you to be logged-in, you will soon be automatically redirected to the log-in page instead of seeing a warning.
 * You will now always see recent changes to the source language text when editing a translation with the Translate extension.
 * An IRC meeting to discuss VisualEditor will take place on August 14 at 09:00 UTC on the channel #wikimedia-office on freenode (time conversion).

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Inactive bot on Japanese Wikipedia
さん、こんにちは.

ウィキペディア日本語版であなたの管理するBotが1年間以上稼働していません.

もし、Botフラグを維持されたいのであれば1か月以内に最低1度だけBotを動かしてください. このまま1か月稼働しなければあなたのBotはフラグ除去申請が提出されます.

Hi ,

I noticed that your bot on japanese Wikipedia has been inactive for more than a year. If you wish to keep its bot flag, please use once within a month. If you no longer need it, the bot flag will be removed.

Regards, -- Banku on ja.wikipedia 05:33, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Menobot problem??
Are you running Menobot on #37, #6 and #16? If so, it is not fixing the error and just marking it as done. There might be a WPCleaner bug on #3 that causes this. Those weren't done by Menobot, but by another user running WPCleaner. Hmmmm. Bgwhite (talk) 07:42, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Problems in 16 they maybe related to code update recently. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:57, 8 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you both for your comments. I am stopping the bot from doing this task and I am reporting this issue. --Meno25 (talk) 11:12, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Should be fixed for #16 with the update I made a few hours ago. If there are problems with other errors, tell me. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 16:42, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Still doesn't explain why #6 and #37 were being marked as done, but not fixed. Bgwhite (talk) 20:53, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * , could you give me examples of articles that were marked as done but not fixed for #6 and #37 ? I took a look at a few #37 that have been marked as done, and either they were really fixed by WPCleaner (like Fröken Fräken or Günther's frog (disambiguation)), were fixed by someone else (like Adolfo Fernández) or I don't understand why they were detected for #37 (like 1971–72 New York Nets season or Emergency Afghan Allies Extension Act of 2014 (H.R. 5195; 113th Congress)). --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 22:01, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * For #37: Chris & Matt Kidd, 2014 Västmanland wildfire, Korea — Anti-Dumping Duties on Imports of Certain Paper from Indonesia and Blum & Poe
 * For #6: Gå & fiska! Bgwhite (talk) 22:15, 8 August 2014 (UTC)


 * For #37, did you change the way it's handled by Check Wiki? As far as I can remember, #37 was only checking the first few characters of the title (it was 3 for a long time, and then was changed to 5 sometime ago). For all the examples you provided, the special character is after the fifth character, so it shouldn't have been picked up by #37.
 * For #6, the DEFAULTSORT that has been added by WPCleaner is "Ga & fiska!", which for me is ok. Which character is considered a special one by CW ? "&", "!" ?
 * --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 08:47, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * NicoV For #37: Yes. Now we check the entire string. We should also warn Josve05a. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:38, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * NicoV For #6: I rename "&" to "and" and remove "!". -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:39, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Could you give me the list of characters that CW considers as normal characters? For WPCleaner, I'm currently using the following list: ASCII letters, digits, space and a few punctuation . --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 08:10, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * certainly remove "&" from your list of normal characters. Check WP:SORTKEY. ( to show example in AWB). -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:56, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Oops, I thought this was answered, but I guess it isn't. Thanks to Magioladitis for telling me to answer it.  This is complicated as it is based on language.  Start to look at line 2088 on https://github.com/scfc/checkwiki/blob/pu/tools-migration/checkwiki.pl.  Bgwhite (talk) 23:26, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Oops, I thought this was answered, but I guess it isn't. Thanks to Magioladitis for telling me to answer it.  This is complicated as it is based on language.  Start to look at line 2088 on https://github.com/scfc/checkwiki/blob/pu/tools-migration/checkwiki.pl.  Bgwhite (talk) 23:26, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

So, per CHECKWIKI, in the English Wikipedia valid characters are ASCII letters, digits, space and. So I guess the main difference is "&#" and on the other side "en-dash" and "*". By the way, are we sure about en-dash? -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:32, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Officially in names, per WP:NAMESORT, Only hyphens, apostrophes and periods/full stops punctuation marks should be kept in sort values. All other punctuation marks should be removed. The only exception is the apostrophe should be removed for names beginning with O'
 * is kept because of how Wikipedia names articles. I think !?: are inherited and I can't remember why these are listed.
 * If I remember right, en-dash was because there are just too many articles with it. But I'm not sure
 * I should add * to the list? Bgwhite (talk) 00:51, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I suggest that NicoV removes "&#" from the valid characters and we are done for now. We can still keep fixing endashes but no reason to list them all. Let's not remove "!?:" from sortkeys for now. Bgwhite leave "*" detection. In fact, the only valid situation is when star is the at the beggining of the sortkey. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:01, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I've removed "&" from the valid characters. Do you have examples where "#" is causing trouble for #37 or the like? (as it's a character not really supposed to happen in article titles for technical reasons). --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 11:56, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * NicoV I have no example but you wrote that you have it in your whitelist. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


 * For enwiki, it has been the entire string since before I took over. For all other wikis, it is the first five characters.  When it is being used by Magioladitis, I use an irrational, imaginary number or as I call it, a Magioladitis number.  Bgwhite (talk) 00:29, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * For #37, with this modification in the translation file, WPCleaner checks the entire title for special characters. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 07:13, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2014-34
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf17) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since August 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis on August 19, and on all Wikipedias on August 21 (calendar).
 * There is a new protection level called superprotection. At the moment, only some Wikimedia Foundation employees have access to it. Administrators can't edit "superprotected" pages. [//meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Superprotect_rights]
 * You can now create empty pages directly. A message asks you to confirm that you want to create an empty page.
 * You can search for Wikimedia tools using a new list of tools.
 * You can watch the first videos from Wikimania 2014. Some of them are about technical topics. More videos will come later.

Wikidata
 * After August 19, you can use Wikidata for inter language links on Wikinews.
 * After August 19, you can use Wikidata for badges like "good" or "featured" articles. Next week, you will be able to show the badges in the article sidebar on Wikipedia, Wikisource and Wikiquote.

Problems
 * There was an issue with ProofreadPage and WikiEditor on Wikisource wikis. It is now fixed.

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Articles for deletion/Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hi, FYI --> Articles for deletion/Jan-Bart de Vreede. NoNavelGaving (talk) 18:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Please check this
Hi Meno, Please check this article: Ahmed Seada -- Ibrahim.ID »» 19:39, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2014-35
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

VisualEditor news
 * There was a error when you put your cursor directly after a reference list. It is now fixed.
 * You can now add colors to links in the editor using gadgets. You can do this to see links to redirects or disambiguation pages.
 * If you use Internet Explorer, you will soon be able to use VisualEditor.

Future software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf18) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since August 21. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis on August 26, and on all Wikipedias on August 28 (calendar).
 * After August 26, you will have a central JavaScript and CSS page. They will be on Meta-Wiki and will work on all wikis. Read more on the help page.

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Tech News: 2014-36
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * You can now test a new Beta Feature to see links to other wikis in the sidebar. The links come from Wikidata.
 * You can now search pages that link to a page. Use the  keyword in your search.
 * A redirect to a section now changes the URL in the address bar of your browser. If "Dog" redirects to "Animals#Dog", you now see "Animals#Dog" instead of "Dog#Dog".
 * If you are testing Flow, you now have a Flow tab in your Notifications. It is called "Messages". [//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_(Notifications)/status#2014-08-monthly]

VisualEditor news
 * You can no longer delete required fields in templates.
 * We fixed many Internet Explorer bugs. If you use Internet Explorer 11, you will get VisualEditor next week. Support for earlier versions is coming next.
 * VisualEditor now looks better in Monobook.
 * We fixed a bug where some of your typing could be undone when you used "cut" (Ctrl+X).
 * You will no longer see empty or deleted categories among the suggestions when you add a category.

Future software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf19) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since August 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis on September 2, and on all Wikipedias on September 4 (calendar).
 * There is a proposal to build a database on Commons for file data. It will make it easier to see the author, license and topics. You can give feedback on this idea. You can also come to the IRC chat on September 3 at 18:00 (UTC) in  at freenode.
 * You can give feedback on Media Viewer until September 7. You can say what needs to be improved and ask other people to give feedback too.
 * You can test a new version of the tool to show math. It uses MathML. Report bugs in bugzilla.
 * You will no longer be able to upload images from the mobile site.

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