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The Signpost: 24 June 2015

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Tech News: 2015-27
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Long lines in code blocks now look better.
 * You can now see graphs in VisualEditor.
 * When you read a page on the mobile site, you can now see a link to go to its talk page.
 * The code coloring tool has changed. You can now use many more languages. It now also works on mobile.
 * You can look at a new site to learn how to reuse data from Wikimedia sites.

Problems
 * JavaScript was broken on some wikis due to a code error. VisualEditor and other tools that use JavaScript were broken.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from June 30. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 1. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 2 (calendar).
 * You can now use a tool in VisualEditor to add and edit code in color.
 * When you edit a sentence in the Translate tool, it can show you older translations. They help you save time if they look alike. The older translations should now work better. If you see problems, you should report them.
 * If you are an admin or have other special rights, you now need a strong password.
 * Bot and JavaScript coders: The old continuation mode of the API for  doesn't work any more.

Meetings
 * You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on June 30 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future
 * When you create a new account, it will also create one on Meta-Wiki and mediawiki.org.

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The Signpost: 01 July 2015

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Tech News: 2015-28
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * On the mobile site, you now see more information when you search for a page. It now shows the description from Wikidata.

Problems
 * The code of long pages is not colored any more. You may see this problem on the pages of long gadgets.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 7. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 8. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 9 (calendar).
 * The "Page information" tool shows how many users watch the page. You can now see how many are active.
 * You can now translate articles into English with the new translation tool.

Meetings
 * You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on July 7 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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The Signpost: 08 July 2015

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Additional questions
Thanks for the help, Meno! I'm going through the subcategories and I'm having trouble trying to figure out how to write the Arabic for the following: If I have the Arabic for these I can cover these subcategories too. Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 18:21, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Commons:Category:Elementary schools in Manhattan
 * Commons:Category:Elementary schools in the Bronx
 * Commons:Category:Middle schools in Manhattan
 * Commons:Category:High schools in Manhattan


 * You're welcome.

--Meno25 (talk) 06:28, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Elementary schools in Manhattan=مدارس ابتدائية في مانهاتن
 * Elementary schools in the Bronx=مدارس ابتدائية في ذا برونكس
 * Middle schools in Manhattan=مدارس إعداداية في مانهاتن
 * High schools in Manhattan=مدارس ثانوية في مانهاتن

Thanks! I've added Arabic to the respective categories on the Commons WhisperToMe (talk) 12:58, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-29
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now see a list of pages with errors in code coloring.

Problems
 * There was a problem with editing on Thursday. Some tools like bots and VisualEditor were broken on all wikis for 10 minutes.
 * There was a problem with images on Thursday. They were broken on all wikis for 15 minutes.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 15. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 16 (calendar).

Meetings
 * You can join a technical meeting at Wikimania in Mexico City this week.

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Input required
Please visit. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:50, 14 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I am afraid that I don't understand the comment by . What is this "typo comment"? Could you give me, please, step by step instructions on what to do? --Meno25 (talk) 14:26, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * If you check ar:Project:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage you ll see a typo comment in the code. Copy it to pther other projects you want them to use the Arabic typo fixing. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:04, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 July 2015

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Tech News: 2015-30
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 21. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 22. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 23 (calendar).
 * You now see more warnings in the image viewer. They tell you to be careful when using the image, for example if it shows a person.

Meetings
 * You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on July 21 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Soon you won't be able to use MathJax to display math.

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The Signpost: 22 July 2015

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Thank you
Thank you for doing CheckWiki fixes today. Magioladitis is on vacation (he better not check Wikipedia) and I really needed the help. Thank you very much. Bgwhite (talk) 07:58, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Bgwhite I am around, watching everything. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:59, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You are supposed to be having fun in Turkey. Atleast one of us needs to have fun.  Go away.  Bgwhite (talk) 08:03, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Thank you for your message. --Meno25 (talk) 08:21, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Question on Start vs. C or B ratings
Hi Meno25;

Thank you very much indeed for your quick review of Liu Liangmo, though I am a little discouraged with the “Start” rating. I can see that you did heroic work in reviewing dozens and dozens of articles over that last week or so but I’m not sure how “Assist” works and whether it does the rating or you do.

As you know, the Start criteria read:
 * An article that is developing, but which is quite incomplete. It might or might not cite adequate reliable sources.... The article has a usable amount of good content but is weak in many areas. Quality of the prose may be distinctly unencyclopedic, and MoS compliance non-existent. ... Frequently, the referencing is inadequate....”

To get a feel for the criteria applied, I looked at a few articles chosen at random. Dermott Downs and Joe Dermody, are rated Start, but they sure look like Stubs, so I assume the criteria are flexible. I looked at a few articles which were rated C and B, and they certainly look worthy, but not necessarily better sourced than some of the Start rated articles.

So maybe you could help me to improve next time by pointing out where the content of the Liu Liangmo article is “quite incomplete,” where the sources are incomplete, in which of the “many areas” it is weak, or the “quality of prose” unencyclopedic. I’m sure that there is no reason to say that the MoS compliance is “non-existent.”

Again, I thank you for the hard work, and am grateful for the opportunity to look at the list of the articles you rated just on July 23 and 25. It was astounding and educational to see the number of new articles and the range of topics. I had no idea!

All the best. ch (talk) 22:11, 25 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your kind words. Much appreciated. As you already know, the WikiProject assessment criteria is not set in stone. This is especially true for ratings whose criteria are nearly similar to each other such as: Stub and Start ratings, Start and C ratings, etc. There are some edge cases where I am personally puzzled about which rating that I should assign to the article. However, I will not deny it: given the fact that I did thousands of WikiProject ratings in the past few weeks, it is quite possible that I did some mistakes along the way. After reconsidering the article in question, I now believe that it should be assigned C rating, especially after you expanded it yesterday. Also, please note that I am not an expert on the subject of this article. If you would like the article to be reviewed, I recommend that you leave a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography/Science and academia where an expert may voice his opinion. Thank you. --Meno25 (talk) 07:54, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Many more thanks for your (again) quick response, which is not merely a "reply" but an actual "response." It is the work of people like you that makes Wikipedia possible, and the thoughtfulness that makes it valuable.ch (talk) 17:25, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-31
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now use redirects to link to JavaScript pages.
 * You cannot use the compact user bar any more.
 * You can change your options to see bigger images.
 * You can watch short videos about how to use VisualEditor.
 * You can now edit pages linked in "what links here" more easily.

Problems
 * There was a problem with some Lua modules on July 22 and 23. Some pages using them did not list them in "what links here". You can fix those pages with a null edit: edit and save the page without making any change.
 * There was a problem with the abuse filter page on big wikis on July 23. It was due to a code error.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 29. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 30 (calendar).
 * JavaScript authors: You cannot use  to get edit counts anymore.

Meetings
 * You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on July 28 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Tech News: 2015-32
<section begin="technews-2015-W32"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes Problems Changes this week
 * The ContentTranslation extension has been updated:
 * You can now type in list paragraphs on wikis with right-to-left scripts.
 * Some user interface updates changed how details in the ContentTranslation extension look.
 * The error page you see when the sites are not working is now simpler and easier to read. It also shows the Wikimedia logo.
 * MediaWiki now supports redirects for CSS pages.
 * Bots can't guess captchas unlimited times anymore.
 * There was a problem with thumbnails on wikis with local images on July 24 and 25. It was due to a code error.
 * We can't search by file type on Wikimedia wikis now.
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 5. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 6 (calendar).

Meetings
 * You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 4 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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The Signpost: 05 August 2015
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William H. Warner article

 * I saw your quality assessment rating of William H. Warner article. I thought I covered his life pretty well with good sources.  What is missing from the article, I’d like to get it up to a "C" or "B" level?--Orygun (talk) 18:02, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I reassessed the article as C class. I can't assign it B class because this requires a formal review by WikiProject Military history. Best wishes. --Meno25 (talk) 05:20, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-33
<section begin="technews-2015-W33"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes
 * MediaWiki can now hide the signature button when you edit a content page.
 * The "Your preferences have been saved" message has changed. You can now see more easily what was saved when you change preferences several times.
 * You can now play Ogg video files in some browsers that don't support this format. This solution uses JavaScript and works on desktop browsers only for now. It will work on mobile later.
 * You can now use the same tools to edit style in VisualEditor on mobile as in desktop browsers.
 * It is now easier to see if there is a JavaScript error in a user or site script.
 * JavaScript authors:
 * You can no longer use the Sajax library. You can see a list of pages to fix.
 * You can no longer use  on Wikimedia wikis. You can see a list of pages to fix.
 * The content translation tool now works better. It is easier to use math, and useless tags are no longer added.

Problems
 * More edits have been rejected due to loss of session data lately. This is now fixed.
 * Importing a Lua module sometimes didn't work. This is now fixed.
 * Text was sometimes lost in the content translation tool. One part of the problem is now fixed.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 12. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 13 (calendar).
 * UploadWizard is getting a new look. The look of buttons and checkboxes has already changed. This week, UploadWizard gets a new date picker. The other text fields will change soon.
 * You can now test VisualEditor on mobile devices of all sizes.

Meetings
 * You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 11 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Some things in the watchlist will get a new look.

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