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 * Thanks a lot for adding members. It was populated with Rachana Shah, but that article was deleted for lack of notability. Not easy to establish notability for a book designer, as they're rarely publicly credited for their work. Regards,  Esowteric + Talk  08:42, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

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How many categories?
Thanks for reviewing Len Shustek adding appropriate categories. It seems that whenever I provide what seems like a reasonable set of categories, eventually another editor deletes many of them. I have read the help pages on categories, and I still can't understand when I have enough or too many categories. I would appreciate any suggestions you may have.

I liked studing at your example. I have since added "Polytechnic Institute of New York University alumni".

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 * I hadnt thought of that one, as that school didnt catch my eye as that notable (apparently it is, so i dont know everything). have you tried using WP:hotcat? it makes it easier to find categories. my best rule is to take a general category, like Category:Scientists, and try to find the most specific sub category or categories possible. for instance, einstein was a scientist. i would look for : german physicists, german mathematicians, American physicists, jewish physicists, 20th century physicists, scientists from his home town, or maybe just people from his home town (if its very small), nobel physics laureates, german americans or german immigrants to the US, etc. some of these will exist, some wont. i may decide to create a new category, as i did extensively for the SFBA, as individual cities dont have enough, say, lawyers to have a category, but the bay area surely has enough notable lawyers to give them a category, and the bay area is a noted region described as such by many. i wouldnt create "lawyers from the counties on the california/oregon border", as thats not a notable region, though it would take at least that many counties to have enough lawyers for a category. I plan to create "prisons in the SFBA" shortly, and i think ALL the faculty of the regional universities could be categorized by their specialities: chemists from the SFBA, etc, including making such categories for the state (chemists from cali, etc), if not already created. as we both know, california may as well be a nation, for the diversity and complexity of the society, and the SFBA could easily rival many nations for diversity as well. The key to not having categories deleted i believe is to not reach to nebulous categories, such as "physics" for physicists, or "business" for a CEO, or "history" for an article on a notable murder. if its clearly, objectively, unambiguously fitting into a particular category, no one can reasonably delete it. and remember, categories dont make distinction about how notable they are, so a person well known for murdering someone, who happens to be a somewhat recognized programmer, gets that category just like Alan turing, and a disgraced physicist gets the same category as einstein. for those distinctions, we need lists of such people with descriptions of how they are notable in that area. certain subjects, especially people, have more categories than others. a bay area stream will probably have only one category, "rivers in foo county", or "rivers in cityville", unless it crosses through 2 cities or counties who both have categories for streams/rivers. Oh, and for Len, i tried looking up "endowments", seeing if there is a category for people who create endowments, but we dont have one yet, the closest we get is Category:Financial endowments, which is too vague, as he is not a financial endowment. the first person to create a financial endowment for a university could have this category,as a significant person in the history of the concept, but not len. i hope this helps a little.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:24, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

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You requested a good fish slapping at Categories for discussion. This is a fish walloping that involves the use of dried stockfish and some Norwegian two-by-fours. (Trouting is blaha blaha — a squishy business.) I hesitate to post it on your page, though — not sure such a drubbing is deserved here — please just post it on yourself if you think it is! Bishonen &#124; talk 21:43, 31 October 2012 (UTC).
 * why not, the history of dried fish is of vital importance to world history, and is likely underreported on Wikipedia, so if this spurs research:

ah, thats better.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:09, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

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I think it would be helpful (and smart, for potential future reference) if, prior to deletion, the ones with edit histories were moved back to article-space. - jc37 04:34, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I am checking the edit history of each page before i determine what type of proposal to make. if its a previously deleted article, which was userfied by an admin acting in good faith, i am MFD'ing it, to elicit discussion. If its an old version of a current article, whether or not it was previously deleted and recreated, i have CSD'd it as an old fork (after confirming that no other editors have somehow found this userpage and edited it themselves, not just removed categories or tagged it for whatnot). if it was a copied article made just prior to a deletion, with the purpose of "saving" it for the editors later perusal, i am CSD'ing it. I have considered restoring each one to article space, but i havent found any which appear to be candidates for an article. the list of asteroid discoverers is a good idea, and if someone does want to create it from this old version, they can go at it. ive created lists like that myself. I think im giving each a fair shot. and, of course, if COM wants to come back from self imposed exile and say "i want to work on these" im inclined to support. we need good editors, he appears to have editing skills, he can use them here if he plays fair.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:42, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * My apologies, I wasn't clear on what I was asking.
 * Sometimes a userspace version of an article is "the original", and so an history merge may appropriate. Sometimes, someone moved an article from mainspace to userspace to work on it. If there are others in the page history than just that editor, then it should be moved back to article space prior to deletion. (Several reasons - one is so that the deletion log at that location is accurate.)
 * I'm talking about technical (possibly admin-related) actions, not commenting whether they should be kept or not, merely that page histories and logs should not be unintentionally "hidden" in userspace. - jc37 05:58, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I think that all of these pages were moved from a deleted article to COM's userspace, with only random edits like commenting out categories, or disambiguation fixes. none appear to be original to COM. However, i get that you are talking about a different issue than i originally thought. I dont always "get" the processes for preserving edit history, but if these pages need to be returned to article space for afd, im just glad to know why that may be happening. I get that you are not commenting on the content, only the procedure. Thats what makes this site so cool. each of us has our strengths and weaknesses, but together the work seems to get done properly.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:39, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hey, I saw you tagged a bunch of articles in this user's userspace, at least the one I looked at was a G4 because the article had been deleted. In my (albeit rusty) understanding it's fine for people to have deleted stuff in their userspace so they can work on it to maybe get it up to article standards or for whatever reason. Unless it's something like a copyvio or an attack page. Is that your understanding too? Was there something in particular about all those pages that needs to get deleted? (Or is there a discussion or something I'm not aware of?) If not I'm inclined to let them leave this stuff kicking around their userspace. (Apologies if the answer is glaringly obvious, I only looked at a couple). What do you think? Peace,  delldot   &nabla;.  05:08, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
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