User talk:Merhawie

Tigray/Tigrinya
Please discuss before making any major changes or moves like that. There's a reason why the article is where it is. There are too many different names that Tigrés/Tigrinyas can be called, and since the article is about people on both side of the border (their differences aren't great enough to warrant separate articles, though it probably warrants a heading on the Tigray people page explaining any differences) the neutral "Tigray people" term has been chosen since there is no widespread English use either.

Yom 23:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Eritrea
Why are you getting so angry? It was me who proposed that we take out Amharic, but it seems (from the capitalization in your edit summary), that you're removing it to somehow spite me. Either way, I don't think it should be on the list, but I do think that it should be mentioned that much (most?) of the educated class speaks Amharic as a second language, and perhaps some near Om Hajer and the border with Gonder speak it as a first language. I'll go find a source. ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk 19:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Btw, I've recently created an Ethiopian wikiproject, if you'd like to join and help out. Would it be okay if I put a link for it on the Eritrean WikiProject page too, in case anyone there would be interested in helping out? Anyway, I hope to see you contribute! (I'll put a simple signature since the colors irritate you - I'll assume it's just the brightness and not b/c it's the Ethiopian tri-color) &mdash; Yom | Talk 04:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

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Asmara
I had uploaded the files but for some reason the images were not working. I will try again, I have uploaded images before and this hasn't happened ?????

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eritrea
Nationalities is problem in English, and in the era of the nation-state. Can you use "groups"? Do you explain it all later in the text?

If "groups" is no good, at the very least, put "nationalities" in quotes; but I'm nor sure they'll like that.

Tony 02:09, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Eritrea
Thank you for the link and help, but I really don't see myself making any long, focused, or coordinated articles on Wikipedia. I just flip through the site from time to time trying to change things that I don't think are correct, mostly with things that concern Eritrea. Thanks. Mesfin 09:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Featured Article
Sorry. I was reading the articles too fast during the process of nominations. I will do a better job next time. But in your article, I didn't like how the whole article was organized and the orders of sections. Individual articles were very good though. --GoOdCoNtEnT 21:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Why did you take out the intro?
Merhawie, why did you take out the intro. It was so good. Im putting it back. The one before it (that you replaced right now) is too vague and makes the country look boring. Look at the Ethiopian article. Look at other countries articles? Cluckbang 15:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)Cluckbang


 * I reverted it for two reasons:
 * It seems to be more about Eritrea's relationship with Ethiopia (instead for instance with Aksum),
 * It is far too in depth about the historical aspect, the historical context is too specific.
 * Basically it seems to me that it belongs in the historical section and not the lead section. I draw this conclusion from the recommendations of Wikipedia, specifically about the lead section and I would also recommend you read through the section for an actual Featured Article (the one that I have been following are People's Republic of China and Libya). If you agree, or do not respond by the end of the day, I will revert your change to the lead section. Merhawie 18:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Libya and china? Those are just 2 countries! In most articles, there is a little history info on the intro. Even if you look at the Ethiopia article. Besides what I added to the intro made the country more interesting to the reader and will cause them to want to know more about such an interesting country. I am reverting

Cluckbang 15:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)Cluckbang

Eritrea Article Hello there Tony, you have give suggestions on how Eritrea can become a featured article. However, before you edited it, someone took out a part of the introduction that i put in, and so I wanted to know whether this part that I added to it was okay or unnesessary? thx

"The area which is now called Eritrea played an important role within the framework of the wider region which we now know as Ethiopia. The coastal area represented the external door and the window of much of the Ethiopian region. The area lay off the Red Sea coast, one of the major trade routes of ancient times. The coastal area was later likewise visited, shortly before the Christian era, by Ptolemaic naval expeditions, which came in quest of elephants, aptly termed the tanks of the ancient world. The coastal area, throughout its long history, was in fact closely involvedInsert non-formatted text here in the foreign trade of the hinterland. Much of the latter’s commerce passed through the Red Sea coast: exports consisted largely of gold, ivory, civet musk and slaves, and the imports of textiles and other manufactured goods. [1]"

The area now called Eritrea has played an important role in the the region we now know as Ethiopia. As an enclave on the coast of the Red Sea coast, a major trade route since ancient times, Eritrea has long been a strategic location for much of the region, a hub for exports of gold, ivory, civet musk and slaves, and imports of textiles and other manufactured goods. The coastal area was visited shortly before the Christian era by Ptolemaic naval expeditions, which came in quest of elephants, known as "the tanks of the ancient world" [reference required, or remove the phras; does this sentence belong in the lead? (Too specific?)].

Try that. You need to collaborate with others who can copy-edit. Tony 12:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

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I have recieved permission from one of the 'main article' choosers. This gives me the permission to change it to this suggestion that he has given to me Merhawie Cluckbang 14:57, 22 August 2006 (UTC)Cluckbang

WP Eritrea
Hi Merhawie

Thanks for your message. Alas, I am afraid I know rather little about Eritrea. However, I am one of those involved in maintaining a bit of order in the African material (categorising and stubbing) so I'll check through the Eritrean material from time to time. It is not so long ago that WP:WSS created the Eritrea-stub template and I can see you have already created an Eritrea-bio-stub template. I've taken the liberty of cleaning up the code a bit, but unfortunately the Eritrean material has too few stub articles to live up to our standard guideline of 60 stub articles for a new stub category, so the -bio category is a bit thin. I think WP:WSS will watch and see what happens, but if the -bio category doesn't show signs of "growth" we will normally suggest keeping the template but make both Eritrea-bio-stub and Eritrea-stub use the same category until we have more material. You are more than welcome to comment here:. For the time being, I think WP:WSS will wait and see.

Best of luck with WP:ERI. Eritrea looks like an interesting country. Cheers. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 07:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

National Confederation of Eritrean Workers
Hi Merhawie. I replaced the Category:Trade unions of Eritrea on this article. It is part of the larger Category:Trade unions by country category system, and should be left on the article. This is, unfortunately, the only trade union entry we have for Eritrea. Do you know of any other trade unions in the country? Would you be willing to add them to Wikipedia? Leave me a message if I can be of any help. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee 21:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Enkutatash
Hello, I thought perhaps you might be able to answer my questions at Talk:Enkutatash. Thanks in advance, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
and የቐንየለይ! &mdash; MikeG (talk) 03:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Athletes/Sportspeople
In Wikipedia, Category:Athletes is for participants in the sport athletics (track and field). Category:Sportspeople is for participants of any sport. Please don't mingle the two. And since we have Category:Eritrean athletes, we don't really need a category called Eritrean runners. I do however note your point about non-reverse name order. But please don't blank the category sort key. Instead, have the sort key point to the first name like I did with Mebrahtom Keflezighi. Note that this only applies to categories pertaining to Eritrea. Punkmorten 09:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Because: When no sort key is written, some editors presume that it is lacking and will therefore insert one. To avoid inserting of the wrong sort key (Keflezighie, Mebrahtom) by someone else, it's better to have the correct sort key there at once. And it's quick and easy, like edit summaries. Punkmorten 06:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

National Confederation of Eritrean Workers
Why did you add the word "centre" to the first sentence? I do not think it fits, thank you. --Merhawie 20:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Merhawie. Thanks for your note. I added the word because the NCEW is a national trade union center, not just a single trade union. Here's a description from ICTUR. "'The NCEW is now reported to be independent of the government and the PFDL. It comprises some 250 unions and five federations, the largest being the Textile, Leather and Shoe Federation.'" Cheers. --Bookandcoffee 20:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Maraba Coffee
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Adi/Addi
I think we should standardize the "Adi/Addi" villages as "Addi" for Tigrinya names and "Ad" for Tigre names. The reason why the Tigrinya form has the "-i" at the end is solely because the "d" is geminated (i.e. doubled in length), so that's the best approximation. Is Adi Teklezan mainly Tigre or Tigrinya? I think the Encyclopaedia Aethiopica has the article at Ad Teklezan, but I've seen evidence showing it's mainly Tigrinya-speaking. Either way, a standard "Addi" is probably the best way to go. &mdash; ዮም  | (Yom)  |  Talk  • contribs • Ethiopia 14:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I have chosen to use the standard in Eritrean Government documents. For instance, Adi Tekelezan is from a Ministry of Public Works document. Specifically for that town though, if you look on the brief history I wrote on it, the town was originally settled by the Tigre but a significant population of Tigrinya immigrated there. As for who is the predominant? Well Eritrean population statistics never report ethnicity (at least none of the documents I have been privy to). Information I have about the town says that most people are bilingual. --Merhawie 16:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Greetings from New Zealand
Hallo, Merhawie. Thank you for concern about my address. I don't see it as a problem in this country, though maybe you can explain your concern in more detail. Interesting that you confuse crims by having your user page suggesting (because of category names that probably should say "from" instead of "in") that you are in two states at once; and your "name" looks to me (with IE6) just like the four-rectangle postcode blanks that many envelope-makers add for the Australian and New Zealand market (where we manage with just 4 digits, not the 5 in your zipcodes).

With your interest in north-east Africa, maybe you could create the article about the tribe named "Taita" - I found (because that's a New Zealand placename) that the original article was a redirect to a type of bread, so I converted it to a disambig; but when I looked at what linked to it I found a third meaning - more important than the other two, maybe - mentioned on several pages.

Kind regards, Robin Patterson 21:34, 16 October 2006 (UTC) in Wellington
 * :) The four rectangles that you are probably seeing are probably because you dont have the Ge'ez alphabet font, which you can find at here. I will try to do some work on that page (the Taita tribe in Kenya), but to be honest my knowledge about the areas around Eritrea drop off exponentially. Taita by the way is what injera is called in Eritrea (both names are actually used interchangeably). --Merhawie 21:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I just came here to see if you were continuing your discussion with BanyanTree but noticed this. Just wanted to mention that you might also want to consider Code 2000. While it is shareware, not free, it is only US$5 and is a quite useful font to have. I can see many scripts thanks to this font. Of course, it probably isn't perfect and a dedicated font would be better if it's a language your particularly interested in or can actually read or you want to show someone who can actually read the language. But for general use and just to actually see what's out there, IMHO it's enough. There are attempts to construct free unicode fonts but AFAIK none of them are as good as Code 2000 yet. Nil Einne 13:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Anon Block
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 * I suggest you read up on IP address and Tor (anonymity network) before you panic like that again in future. --  Netsnipe  ►  01:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Beraki Ghebreselassie
_ _ Hey, welcome (belatedly), it's great that we have a subject expert on Eritrea contributing. Myself, i'm only abt one step beyond confusing Er. w/ Eth.: i've known for i-can't-remember-how-long that the Italian conquest of Eth. was launched from the more, uh, conventional colony of Er.; i also scored points at a nominally Eth'n restaurant by asking questions and discovering that the Er'n i recalled meeting (before independence) was a relative of the owner. Not bad, i guess -- tho only bcz Yanks are supposed to be even more ignorant than i am. _ _ As to B.G., i hope you realize (but couldn't be sure from what you said) that But despite at least a (very welcome!) heads-up from you, i still don't know enuf about Eritrean naming to be sure whether to put "Beraki Ghebreselassie" or "Ghebreselassie, Beraki", and i'm anticipating this possibility: that the rdr "Beraki G/sellasie" exists because his father is named Selassie or Sellassie, and "Ghebre-" functions much as "-dóttir and -sson do. I say that out of ignorance, but see a need to rule it out if we are to leave B.G. as you did. _ _  BTW, good for you when you put the uninverted name in as piping, instead of just reverting back to no piping: doing so communicates that you intentionally left it uninverted, rather than simply not realizing that piping to something else must be done on bios, or explicitly ruled out. _ _ Thanks, and please accept my regrets for the length of this message. --Jerzy•t 21:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) The crucial issue for piping Cats is alphabetization (bcz the piping never appears except in the edit pane), independent of how the name would and wouldn't be handled between Eritreans.
 * 2) A bio article is probably incomplete (his sounds like an example) unless either
 * 3) the subject conforms to the West European-style format of given name(s) followed by surname(s), or
 * 4) the subject comes from a place where a CJK-like language is widely spoken, or
 * 5) the bio explains what is going on instead, IMO preferably in the lead sentence if it can be done in less than about 6 words, and, if needed, soon thereafter (probably in the next 'graph after the lead 'graph) in more detail.
 * 6) Neither the piping of Cats nor entries on LoPbN and other lists of names has room to explain anything (except, depending on the nature of the list, in the form of normally putting something at least vaguely surname-like first, to clarify alphabetization), and thus relies on linking to the bio for providing the details about the format of the name.
 * 7) Thus for Cat piping & lists that are organized predominantly alpha-by-surname, the relevant question is
 * What would this person say (assuming they're familiar enough with the cultures of English-language societies, and would rather get the job done quickly than lose time enlightening the clerk) when asked about their name at the Western consulate or the Western air line? I.e., when the clerk says "I need to fill in this surname blank; how much of your name identifies your family, as opposed to distinguishing you from others in your family?"
 * Icelanders and pre-revolutionary Russians have a quasi-surname that differs from that of their spouse or siblings of the opposite sex, but amounts to a surname for discussing them in English. If you're from Tamil Nadu, IIRC, you have only a given name, and clarify by mentioning your father's given name (and for all i know your paternal grandfather's, when aambiguity persists), but if you come to the US, you'll probably say your father's given name when asked for a surname. Those are examples of what we're looking for, in Cat piping and before the comma on LoPbN.


 * The "G/" is because "Gebre" is a common element in Ethiopian and Eritrean names, much like "Haile" (which can be abbreviated sometimes as "H/." "Gebre" means "servant of" (Like Abdul/ Abd al-...), while "Haile" means "power of." Both are common elements in religious names (cp. Gebre Selassie, Haile Selassie, "Servant of the Trinity," "Power of the Trinity," respeectively). Ethiopian and Eritrean names are patronymic like Tamil names. You are only given a first name and give your father's name to clarify and father's father's name if more clarification is needed. &mdash; ዮም  | (Yom)  |  Talk  • contribs • Ethiopia 20:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Meb Keflezghi
Hey Merhawie, thanks for your help regarding naming conventions. Could you verify the translation I put for his name? I don't speak much Tigrinya. &mdash; ዮም  | (Yom)  |  Talk  • contribs • Ethiopia 20:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * That seems fine. --Merhawie 05:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Eritrean elections template
The template is one of a standardised set (for the complete list, see here). The templates include all votes at national level, i.e. presidential, Senate and parliament elections together with referenda. As far as I can work out, Eritrea has never held national elections, and the independence referenda is the only vote ever held at national level. Local/regional elections should have their own template (a later project!). Hope this answers your question! Number 57 09:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

whose POV?
You mean a POV other than wikipedia. The source of the story was not crosswalk.com but the news agency that provided the story. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Troymangum (talk • contribs) 21:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC).
 * You are right about that. But I do not think that BosNewsLife qualifies as a "news agency" (though I must admit I am not sure). I do however, believe that do to the gravity of the accusation that confirmation from a news agency with less POV than BosNewsLife which obviously has a particular position. Either that or a discussion about the responses to such past allegations. Furthermore it would likely be more suitable for inclusion in the Christianity in Eritrea page. After all the purpose of Wikipedia is to provide an encyclopedia that is as NPOV as possible. --Merhawie 21:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Edit: Merhawie 21:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

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Battle of Karan
Sorry, but I only know some basic information about the conflict between the British and Italians in Ethiopia. I know some info, but not enough to write an article. :( Captain  panda   Mussolini ha sempre tarche   Quis ut Dues  21:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Eritrean War of Independence
If you want to add a footnote or whatever you are welcome to do it; I just wanted to point out the exact text on my copy of the ballot.

http://aceproject.org/ero-en/regions/africa/ER/Eritrea%20-%20ballot%20paper%20%28referendum%29.jpg/image_view_fullscreen http://aceproject.org/ero-en/regions/africa/ER/Eritrea%20-%20ballot%20paper.jpg/image_view_fullscreen

Mesfin 19:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Tikkun (magazine)
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Lyrics on Ertra, Ertra, Ertra
Hello Merhawie. I've removed the lyrics you added to Ertra, Ertra, Ertra because these are available on Wikisource, a sister project run by the Wikimedia Foundation. The link is in the list of external links. — {admin} Pathoschild 06:14:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I actually do not understand why you have removed them. I have done nothing more than what has been done for the French National Anthem. Could you please clarify? Thank you. --Merhawie 07:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Gibi.jpg
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 * Actually I personally contacted the owner of the website and he has agreed to release them under the CC in the way that I presented on the the image. How will I make sure that every admin is aware of this? --Merhawie 22:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Send a copy of that e-mail to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org. That way a tag will be placed on the image talk page confirming the release. See Talk:American Association for Laboratory Animal Science for an example of that. Garion96 (talk) 22:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * So you are saying I would have to do that on every page where one of his pictures appear?--Merhawie 22:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No, the permission received tag will only be placed on the image page or image talk page, by the person answering the permissions-en e-mail. See for an image example Image:Buffy The Vampire Slayer cast2.jpg, an image I uploaded and where I e-mailed the e-mail exchange to the permissions-en e-mail. There is a place where the ticket number of the OTRS (the permissions-en email) is mentioned. Garion96 (talk) 22:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * do you have any recommendations for my situation where I have uploaded MANY pictures from this persons website (he gave me blanket permission). --Merhawie 23:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Make a list of those images, and send that list together with the e-mail exchange you had to the permissions OTSR. Or have the owner of the website make a statement on his website that he releases his material under the CC. Garion96 (talk) 08:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Hamasien
Merhawie, if this was the name of both a historic province, & an Italian colonial unit, then the opening sentence should state that. Without that information, the sentence as it currently reads is just odd! Would you add the missing information? -- llywrch 23:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

RE: Vandal
Thanks for letting me know. I was tracking that account and others as committing "Brian Peppers" vandalisms. I tagged him as a sockpuppet of another account. If am going to report him to WP:AIV and see what happens. By the way, if you want to read more about how to clean up vandalism, visit this page for basic information. Danski14(talk) 21:43, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Fronts
It depends what one means by fronts. For example the commando raids on Norway are not usually seen as part of the Western Front, nor for that matter are the strategic bombing campaigns of World War II. Although the word has a metaphorical meaning, I do not think that that is an appropriate in an article about a war. Regards Philip Baird Shearer 17:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * PBS...that is a very good point...do you have any recommendations though? Because as it stands now the title is simply incorrect. --Merhawie 18:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I used the sub-secton header "Fighting Spreads to Somalia" because it was the one used in the first reference. But after you edit, I decided that sub-section title Fighting in Somalia probably fitted the parent section (War) better. What is it that you think is incorrect about it? --Philip Baird Shearer 22:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well the section specifically talks about the involvement of the EIJ and the EIS and these groups do not (at least to my knowledge) operate in Somalia, the Oromia or anywhere but Eastern Sudan and Western Eritrea. Because of this I think the section title is inaccurate. --Merhawie 22:47, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Good points. What ahout "Regional destabilisation"? Then we can add in more on trade, relief work etc--Philip Baird Shearer 22:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That sounds good...thank you. --Merhawie 00:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

assab
I'm having trouble at the assab article maybe you can help mediate. Mesfin 16:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Avoid Vandalism
Please avoid randomly deleting references from the Isaias Afewerki article as per Vandalism Also regarding praising Isaias, there was a specific article that supports it and you may read the quote from that, instead of adding personal comments about it. In general, removing a source and then deleting a text claiming there is no source for it, just won't make any sense. Thanks. East Nakfa 11:47, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Translation request, please.
Merhawie, can you translate those to Tigrinya?


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Landmarks in Justin de Jacobis
Hi Merhawie -- Could have alook at this article? It mentions some landmarks that I don't recognize, so I suspect that they are in modern Eritrea. Not that this is a strong argument; there are a lot of placenames in Ethiopia I don't recognize, but Jacobis did a lot of missionary work from Tigray northwards so I think it's likely. And I'd like to correctly say in which country he died. Thanks. -- llywrch 22:11, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * He did die in modern Eritrea...particularly in the Alighede Valley, at Hebo. --Merhawie 23:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks -- & thanks for the edits! -- llywrch 04:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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Politics of Eritrea
I don't understand why you reverted my change here. Your comment of rvv is puzzling. Did you mean "revert vandalism"? I thought it was against the customs here to label a change which you disagree with editorially as "vandalism". --Uncle Ed 03:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You are correct, I apologize, I had meant to put "rv" with an explanation but I may have gotten "trigger" happy. As for the edit however, Eritrea is not a single party state as the PFDJ is not a political party (in its charter it specifically states that it is not). --Merhawie 12:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Perhaps a phrase like "Although its charter specifically says that it is not a one party state, no other political parties are currently in existence." This would go along with, "All newspapers are controlled by the government, and there are no privately owned radio or TV stations."


 * I guess this is a difference between whether it's a dictatorship "in actuality" vs. "on paper".


 * Is this something we as writers can evaluate, or do we need to quote a source who says something like, "Eritrea's concept of itself is contradicted by the reality"? --Uncle Ed 13:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The problem with the phrase that you suggest is that it is not that there are no other political parties, it is that there are no' political parties. As for references...I am always for more references from a variety of sources. --Merhawie 15:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Merhawie, you're letting Ethiopians dictate Eritrean history
Yom and other Ethiopians have single handedly written much of our history and the border war pages, claiming victory but needing a peace deal to end a war, in which was named a stalemate by most reporters, would make the border war the only war in which a nation claims victory but needing a peace deal to end it. Step up your game and change the info to pre-Yominization editing. Lots of Eritreans are complaning about him and editing everything Eritrean to fit Ethiopia's 3,000 year of self-proclaimed, but never proven, history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.236.10 (talk) 10:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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Do you feel Eritrean people should be sorted by first name, like Icelandic people? See Category:Icelandic people. Haukur 00:07, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I do. --04:44, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds good to me. Are patronymics the rule in Eritrea or do many people have family names? Are Abraham Kidane and Petros Solomon currently missorted? Are Kidane and Solomon the names of their fathers? Do you know the full name of Isaias Afewerki's father? Haukur 21:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking it would be nice to have an example where we can see the naming system in action. An example from Malaysia is that Hishammuddin Hussein is the son of Hussein Onn, the son of Onn Jaafar. Haukur 21:49, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I did this some time ago, please note: Habesha_name. --Merhawie 22:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I came across Helen Berhane through Amnesty International, and thought the defaultsort was an obvious mistake, so I "corrected" it (and similarly for the other people who were "obviously" out of place in Category:Eritrean singers). I see from the above, and from the Habesha_name article, that things are actually more complicated than this. If my understanding is correct:
 * I think all biographical articles on Eritreans should have a hidden comment next to the categories (as Meb Keflezighi) explaining the naming convention, otherwise someone else will eventually come along and "correct" the sortkey for you.
 * Similarly, I think all the category articles relating to Eritrean people should have a brief note on naming conventions, otherwise somebody else is going to make the same mistake I made.
 * What about the situation in categories dominated by non-Eritreans? Do we need different sortkeys in the same article to cater for them?
 * --NSH001 (talk) 19:11, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

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A question for you
In regards to this edit, were there any Cuban military personnel involved in the Eritrean War of Independence in sufficient numbers to justify this infobox? I'm asking as a sanity check because my own opinion -- based on my incomplete knowledge of the event -- is that there weren't. -- llywrch (talk) 19:58, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Please find EPLA Press Release 1978-05-13, "... ~3500 Cuban troops in Asmara ..." Further please find, "The Cubans ran the logistical back up for Ethiopia in the war theater of Eritrea ..." Kaplan, Robert, Surrender or Starve Merhawie (talk) 21:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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Tigray-Tigrinya people → Tigrayans
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Eritrean history between the fall of Axum and Italian Eritrea?
The formation of Eritrea mentions Daamat, Axum and skips 1000 year history between fall of Axum in 930 and Italian Eritrea in 1890. What was the history of Eritrea between these 1000 years? Was it an independent nation separate from Axum successors like Zagwe Dynasity, solomonic dynasity, Zemene Mesafint? Ofcourse any Eritrean would ask this question and this Wikipedia article doesn't give a clear answer eventhough the Geez Chrstians are rich in written documents unlike much of Africa's history written based on by unreliable oral history. Most African countries begin their history from their independence from Europeans mainly 1950s and 60s because they don't have written history before the Europeans introduced to them. However, the Christian and Muslim population of Horn of Africa had written documents that dates back over 3,000 years.

In my opnion politics and history should be separate and whatever history should be told inspite of it's negative impact in the politics. Some people maynot like Gragn Mohamed who ruled all the chrstian land including Eritrea but it's our history and it should be told. So do the Zagwe dynasity who are cushitic ethnic Agaws who ruled northern Ethiopia and presentday Eritrea but still semetic speaking Tigrayans and Amharas should know the history of Zagwe dynasty. So do the solomonic dynasity who replaced Zagwe dynasity and who expanded to southern Ethiopia including muslim Ifat & Adal territories, as well as the Christian Bahre Negash province.

Accepting Axum's history while denying the Eritrean people to know their role in the successors of Axums who ruled with Axum's traditions, languages and religion is a contradiction. I can provide many evidences regarding to the history of Eritrea (Bahrnegash) being part of Axum's successors i.e. Zagwe and Solomonic dynasties up until 1890 if requested. The issue is it is something uncomfortable for the extremist Eritrean nationalist who doesn't want to tell their true history to their identity conscious citizens. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EthiopianHabesha (talk • contribs) 14:37, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * EthiopianHabesha, the history of this period is poorly documented and researched leading to a focus on hyperbole and rhetoric. Myths about the Zagwe in southern Eritrea are balanced by evidence of Beja/Belew dominance in the region. The gap in the history as documented on the Eritrea page and Eritrean History flows as a result. Merhawie (talk) 15:05, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * How do we fill this 1,000 year gap should we say Eritrea and Ethiopia have been stateless for a 1,000 year until 19th centuary, until Europeans created a state for us? If its true that we have been stateless and can be proven then it should told. As far as I know the whole Horn of Africa was ruled by several dynasties (states) and as Eritrea being part of this region then my question is which dynasties administered Eritreans until 19th century? The state formation under every country is listed orderly without gap. For instance if you see Kenya they start from 1963 and in Somalia page all the Muslim dynasties who ruled Somali people from 10th century upto it's independence from Italy were listed without gap. Somaliland starts from 1991 while Djibouti starts from 1977.EthiopianHabesha (talk) 21:44, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * EthiopianHabeshaAs mentioned earlier, the history is murky at best. There is evidence describing the region as being ruled by various "mutual independent Beja Kingdoms" followed by a period of rule by the Belew Kingdom, which ultimately was brought down by the Funj and Ottoman Empires. Meanwhile, the south-central portion of the Eritrean highlands may have been hotly disputed between the indigenous people's and forces from beyond the Mereb. In the 16th century state-let of Midri Bahri rose but as with each of the kingdoms described previously there is too little verifiable information. A key doctrine of Wikipedia is the policy regarding verifiability. Until the nature of "evidence" runs to the contrary, WP policy suggests that content should not be contributed if it cannot be verified. Merhawie (talk) 23:23, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Here is the Map i provided to proof my statment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:African_Map_in_1840.jpg. The map clearly shows that much of presentday Eritrea is within the Abysinian teritory meaning both presentday Ethiopia & Eritrea were ruled by one dynasty (state) called Solomonic. As far as i know there is no separate Christian dynasty in the Horn of Africa other than solomonic after the fall of Zagwe Dynasity. The map was published in 1843 by University of Florida. Isn't it a good quality source? By the way the rulling classes of solomonic dynasity has never called their empire Abyssinia or Habesha. since 4th centuary Axumites and their successors use the title "Niguse Negest Ze Ethiopia" (King of Kings of Ethiopia) when they assume power. When they say Ethiopia they were implying all the black African land (land of the Chrstian, Islam or traditional religion followers) that is within their knowledge that they had authority. The official language of the church and the state was Geez. Eventhough they use Ethiopian name for official use the people identify mainly with names like Habesha, Agaw, Tigre, Gojam, Shewa etc. Europeans on the other hand call us Abysinians and use the Ethiopian name to refer the colored Africans including Horn of Africans.EthiopianHabesha (talk) 15:49, 13 April 2016 (UTC)


 * EthiopianHabesha, first lets be clear, the UF did not publish the map - Jesse Olney did. Although laudable, there is no evidence that his map reflected any reality (particular in his background as a schoolteacher at the time). It is probably more reliable to base understandings based on those who actually went there and parsing their information. For example, James Bruce, a Scottish explorer who noted that Midri Bahri and Abyssinia as two wholly separate and distinct entities that were often at war. Similarly into the 19th century, from which your map comes, Catholic missionaries note that the people of Bogos and Mensa were separate and indepednent. Additionally, Abyssinia's Yohannes, in the 1860s, had trouble extending dominion over Eritrea because the "Eritrean" chiefs of the time were "committed to making Eritrea ungovernable by imperial Abyssinia." As I mentioned earlier, the trouble with the record is that there is tremendous conflict in the references. Merhawie (talk) 00:41, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * In history of Axum and all it's successors there has never been centralized government and they use a confederation style of administration. Bahre Negash was equally separate and independent as Shewa, Gojam, Tigre, Begemider, Wag Shum (state of the Agaw people) and Wollo who usually have their own kings. As the title "king of kings of Ethiopia" indicates the emperor allows other chiefs to have the title of Nigus or Sultan to administer their semi autonomous territory. While there has been King of Shewa, King of Tigre, King of Gojam there has never been Nigus of Medri Bahri or Bahre-Negash recorded in history showing that even Shewans were more separate and independent when compared to Medir-Behari. Usually when the Niguse Negest dies it follows with war between regional kings to assume the title of "King of Kings". Of course Midri Behari will usually fight with other regional kings to takeover the highst title of the land or even expand it's authority over it's neighboring provinces. By the way the emperor also administer other non Chrstian kings and Sultans under the title of King of Kings of Ethiopia in a confedartion style of administration. These semi-autonomous rulers administer their land as they wish but have a responsibility to pay annual tribute and contribute soldiers when the emperor requests for either defending the overall empire's territory or to crush rebellions or to expand into neighboring territories. Before 19th century (beginning of modern nation building) all wars in Horn of Africa is for expansions and domination so there is no clan who went to war for separations. So it's very impossible to assume Medri-Behari fought Abysinians for separation. Just like Shewans they will fight all their neighbours to dominate Abysinian/Ethiopian/Horn of African politics and with all possible ways even by aquiring modern weapons from Turks, Portuguese or Italians. Even the cushitic Wello & Yejju Oromos fought with Amharas and Tigrayans to expand their domination in northern Ethiopia and actually were successful for 86 years in dominating these tribes during Zemene Mesafint. I got all these history from various sources and it will take me a lot time to list them over here.EthiopianHabesha (talk) 14:41, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * To summerize: Bahre Negash province was equal to the other provinces like Shewa Province and have been part of Abysinia/Ethiopia's Solomonic dyansity until the establishment of Italian Eritrea in 1890. Before the expansion of Gragn Mohamed i.e. 1520s the lowland red sea area including coastal cities of Zeyla & Mitsewa were also administered by semi autonomous chiefs & sultans who were under the control of Axum and it's successors. However between 1574 and 1870s the sea was lost and was administered by Turkish's Habesh Eyalet province. The Highlander semi-autonomous Bahre-Negash administrators supplied with modern weapon from their neighbour Turkey sought to dominate Abyssinians just like Menelik of Shewa, also semi autonomous, who successfully dominated all Abysinians by receiving modern weapons from Italian, French & Russians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EthiopianHabesha (talk • contribs) 13:19, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * EthiopianHabesha - Your Claim "there has never been Nigus of Medri Bahri or Bahre-Negash recorded in history" is false. It is documented in many sources as described above (from James Bruce to Basil Davidson and Tom Killion).
 * Your comment: "Before 19th century (beginning of modern nation building) all wars in Horn of Africa is for expansions and domination" - is actually definitional, a conflict is inherently of the expansion of domain by one actor over another (it would be pointless to fight a war over something that neither party believes is contested) As I described above, the history is contested because the source material is ambiguous and thus is not presented here. This is clear. Ultimately veracity and the lack of consensus among historians as to the history that it should not be so placed. The most comprehensive work I have seen on Aksumite history (by Phillipson) is quite clear on this subject.Merhawie (talk) 00:39, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * To Merhawie - again the truth is there was no king of Medri Bahri recorded in history and again the fact is Shewa was more separate and Independent than anyother Abysinian provinces. Please look List of rulers of Shewa and as you can see in the list there were many kings of Shewa with Menelik II being the last one who elevated shewan Kings as king of kings by defeating all rival Abyssinians including Gojam's king Tekle Haymanot. If you assume there was king of Medri Bahri please let it be known by creating a list of rulers for it in wikipedia page similar to Shewan rulers (who claim solomonic decent) or also like the List of rulers of Welayta who had their own dynasity separate from solomonic Dynasity but today who are Ethiopian citizens. Anyways it seems like we could not be able to solve the issue here, and I created a title for it under Talk:Eritrea so that other people give their comments and suggestions and so that I would be able to request for 3rd Opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EthiopianHabesha (talk • contribs) 22:40, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * EthiopianHabesha your assertions are unambiguously false as mentioned above. I will not carry on a conversation based on rhetoric. I have provided references above. Thank you for your engagement. Merhawie (talk) 02:26, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

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Denver gathering
We will hold a casual Wikipedia gathering at the Gonzales Library at 1498 North Irving Street in Denver, on Sunday afternoon, February 11, 2024, from 2:30 to 4:00 PM MST. See details at Meetup/Denver.

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U.S. Mountain West Online Meeting
Wikimedians of the U.S. Mountain West will hold an online meeting from 8:00 to 9:00 PM MST, Tuesday evening, February 13, 2024, at meet.google.com/kfu-topq-zkd. Anyone interested in the Mountain West or the future direction of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement is encouraged to attend. All guests are welcome. Please see our meeting page for details.

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Wikimedia U.S. Mountain West Online Meeting
Wikimedians of the U.S. Mountain West will hold an online meeting from 8:00 to 9:00 PM MDT, Tuesday evening, May 14, 2024, at meet.google.com/kfu-topq-zkd. Anyone interested in the Mountain West or the future direction of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement is encouraged to attend. All guests are welcome. Please see our meeting page for details.

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Rescheduled online meeting of the Wikimedians of the U.S. Mountain West 05/21/2024
The online meeting of the Wikimedians of the U.S. Mountain West originally scheduled for May 14 has been rescheduled for 8:00 to 9:00 PM MDT, Tuesday evening, May 21, 2024, at meet.google.com/wbg-wgws-sbj. Please see our new meeting page for details.

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Proposed deletion of Kidan Habesha


The article Kidan Habesha has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "No evidence of notability. A quick search of the interwebs did not find any secondary sources."

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. --76.14.122.5 (talk) 02:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC)