User talk:Messinwithbruce

Edits
Why did you undo my edit and then do the exact same thing. BraveSpider13 (talk) 22:58, 1 December 2020 (UTC)BraveSpider13

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The Masked Singer UK series 1 poster question
Hi there. Just for my own purposes, I was just wondering where you found/obtained from. Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Magitroopa (talk) 16:55, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

December 2020
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Anton Du Beke. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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 * Hi, you should consider any change in the title of that biography to be potentially controversial. See Requested moves for instructions on how to start a discussion to obtain consensus to change the title to Anton du Beke on the talk page.


 * Though I do note that just recently at 20:06, 26 November 2020 moved page Anton du Beke to Anton Du Beke  with the rationale "(according to own websites, social media and bbc strictly page - most newspapers seem to be copying us)".


 * should have left the redirect so as not to break links. I see this is because they did a WP:Page mover swap.


 * Given that this was a longstanding redirect dating from 22 March 2007 (it just appears to be a self-redirect because the page was swapped), I think it's within your rights to request a revert of this recent, undiscussed, controversial move at WP:RM/TR. Or just ask me here. But please consider Launchballer's reasoning first. Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 00:26, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Aside from the fact that you were asked to request the move, both of your attempts at moving the page constituted page move vandalism, and your second attempt constituted edit warring, which you've previously been warned about. I have requested a page move, please now wait for the discussion to be closed. I also dispute 's claim that I broke links by not leaving a redirect, given that I used pageswap, which automatically replaced the redirect for me.-- Laun chba ller 00:49, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose their editing privileges on that page. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to result in loss of your editing privileges. Thank you. 5 albert square (talk) 01:35, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose their editing privileges on that page. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to result in loss of your editing privileges. Thank you.  livelikemusic   ( TALK! ) 16:46, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing and copyright violation
If you closely paraphrase a plot summary or any other prose like you did here and here, your editing privileges are likely to be interrupted. I'm sure someone told you that copying is unethical? Well, often it's not legal, either, and it's in violaton of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:01, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

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Rosemary West
Hi. Just wish to advise that I've reverted your edit to Rosemary West, which you did based on her apparent identity change. Apart from the fact that no citation has been supplied, the news itself is cited only by sources since deprecated or tabloid-y/"tread caution". Even at that, the news is not solid enough (which adds onto why the current sources are not reliable). We should wait for consensus based on more solid evidence, and particularly from other independent outlets. -- Tytrox (talk) 09:55, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Strictly Come Dancing Season 18
Please do not undo factually correct, referenced edits in the future. Your edit has been reversed. If you choose to enter into an edit war, you will be reported and blocked from editing.167.98.138.18 (talk) 18:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

You’re an IP address hun. You’re not in a position to tell people whether they are going to be ‘blocked or not’ Messinwithbruce (talk) 20:03, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

January 2021
Hello, I'm DarkGlow. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person   on Martine McCutcheon, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! – DarkGlow ( ✉ ) 20:40, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Myleene Klass. Thank you. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 23:25, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Sue Vincent


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Dancing on Ice Series 13
Now as Denise van Outen has withdrawn, shall we leave her in the table or get rid of it? --Annamargarita0 (talk) 16:13, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Sue Vincent for deletion
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February 2021
Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Rufus Hound. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 23:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy by inserting unsourced or poorly sourced defamatory or otherwise controversial content into an article or any other Wikipedia page. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 02:26, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:You're the One (The Emotions song)


Hello, Messinwithbruce. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "You're the One".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 02:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:You're the Best (The Emotions song)


Hello, Messinwithbruce. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "You're the Best".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 02:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Claiming other people's photos as your own
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Editing other editor's user pages
Hello, Messinwithbruce,

Please do not edit other editor's user pages (except their talk page) as you did here. It is not appropriate unless material violates copyright or is a BLP violation. Also, please read WP:Spoiler. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 20:47, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Spoilers
Spoilers are not prohibited per WP:SPOILERS, by the way. Take a read. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 20:55, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

File:Drag Race UK 2 poster.jpeg listed for discussion
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February 2021
 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 2 weeks for persistently adding unsourced or poorly sourced content. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:20, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Important notice
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Unblock
If information is "trivial" it probably shouldn't be on Wikipedia- but in any event, will you also stop posting inappropriate comments on your user page? 331dot (talk) 10:03, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * User:331dot first of all information regarding a contestants elimination from the show is related to the subject so yes it should be on Wikipedia. Second of all I’m not sure what you’re referring to here, but if you mean the fact my User page has been deleted by User:Liz twice, it’s because another user vandalised my page. I think it’s important to understand the facts before you pass comment. Regards Messinwithbruce (talk) 11:15, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If you have read and understood WP:BLP, you'd have seen this:
 * All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source.
 * A statement such as her partner change is likely to be challenged if you don't add a source. Because how do we know if it's true without a source? – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 11:46, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * And, if you did the first check into this user's BLP contributions, you'd have noticed that they used this source to back up Montanna Thompson's DOB... a primary source which doesn't confirm that it's the right person, or her actual birthday... – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 11:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, my impression was that the block was for a more immediate problem than a week old edit, such as a completely unsourced edit. 331dot (talk) 12:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * You're correct about that, it was for recent unsourced BLP edits. But your grounds for unblocking this user were down to their "commitment" to BLP edits. I'd hardly describe sourcing a DOB with a genealogy website as committed. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 12:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If they do not honor their commitment, which includes that sources for BLP edits are proper sources- they will be reblocked. 331dot (talk) 12:06, 17 February 2021 (UTC)


 * There is only one registered birth under the name ‘Montanna Thompson’ in the United Kingdom and Wales. So there is nothing else to suggest it isn’t the subject in question. It seems you are nit picking to find more issues when the source I’ve provided is in fact reliable. A source has now been added to the information I added to Faye Brookes. Regards Messinwithbruce (talk) 12:08, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * How do we even know she was born in the UK? It's coming off as original research. There is no such thing as "nitpicking" with a BLP... we are representing real people here, every detail should be correct. But believe me, if you want me to be more tedious by going through your contributions more regularly, I will. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 12:11, 17 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The source confirms Thompson was born in the United Kingdom and a quick google search will confirm this also. But you don’t need me to tell you this as you are fully aware of this information as we edit similar pages and share the same interests. You even watch the same show and are fully aware Thompson was born in the U.K. However if the source I’ve used isn’t, in your opinion acceptable, I’m not going to dispute it on this occasion. It’s your prerogative if you wish to go through my contributions. I have nothing to hide. Regards Messinwithbruce (talk) 12:24, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Do we know that though? She easily could've been born abroad and moved to the UK like many BLPs I've edited the pages of. Original research. And any editor will tell you that a genealogy website is an unreliable source, not just me. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 12:29, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

The Voice UK Series 10
I think there's going to be 2 semi-finals this year. --Annamargarita0 (talk) 19:47, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Seems likely if there’s no knockout rounds. If not That’d mean 24 in the semi finals.Messinwithbruce (talk) 22:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

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WP:BRD
Hi there, re: this, a reminder that when content you submit is reverted, you should open a discussion on the article's talk page to seek consensus for the change you wish to make, not to resubmit the change, as that can be perceived as edit-warring. I have done that for you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:02, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

March 2021
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 2), you may be blocked from editing. Drmies (talk) 18:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * I warned you. I was not joking. Drmies (talk) 18:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I don’t see how making one revision is edit warring? You decided to revert the entire article instead of manually changing the tables back, which in turn changed fixes that I’d made to the episode table.Messinwithbruce (talk) 19:04, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Drag Race ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. ≫  Lil- Unique1  -{ Talk  }- 18:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

March 2021
 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Drmies (talk) 18:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Once is not persistently. I might add.Messinwithbruce (talk) 19:00, 10 March 2021 (UTC)


 * ... but three times is. See WP:BRD. 86.164.109.106 (talk) 19:17, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Unblock
So, Bruce, you seem to have a habit of doing that childish thing with all the colors in these articles full of trivia--I guess that's good to know. Drmies (talk) 01:16, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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