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 * Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 20:19, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Please explain to me why my article was rejected. Did you even read the article and follow the references? Your rejection reply says nothing and gives no details on the exact problem. Did you even look to see this subject is referenced NUMEROUS times on Wikipedia already? Does Wikipedia not care about relevant information to back up articles that ALREADY EXIST on the site? This is why people don't take Wikipedia seriously.

Let's look at the criteria you are ignoring:

>>"Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and >>in detail, so that no original research is needed to >>extract the content. Significant coverage is more than >>a passing mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material.[1]

Google the term "Infernaeon" and look at the search results from numerous web sites.

>>"Reliable" means sources need editorial integrity to >>allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the >>reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass >>published works in all forms and media, and in any >>language. Availability of secondary sources covering the >>subject is a good test for notability.

Numerous metal news sites and outlets have covered this band. Do your homework.

>>"Sources"[2] should be secondary sources, as those >>provide the most objective evidence of notability. >>There is no fixed number of sources required since >>sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but >>multiple sources are generally expected.[3] Sources >>do not have to be available online and do not have to >>be in English. Multiple publications from the same >>author or organization are usually regarded as a >>single source for the purposes of establishing notability.

This was provided to you. I have yet to see evidence that you did not receive this information.

>>"Independent of the subject" excludes works produced >>by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. >>For example, advertising, press releases, autobiographies, >>and the subject's website are not considered independent.

The only reference that doesn't meet this is the band's web site. Every other reference is from a reputable news source.

Bands base their entire experience on marketing with their fans. There's no way not to use press release links to indicate notability for a band's years of history. Despite that, other references were provided that do not rely on press releases.

>>"Presumed" means that significant coverage in reliable sources >>creates an assumption, not a guarantee, that a subject >>should be included. A more in-depth discussion might conclude >>that the topic actually should not have stand-alone article—perhaps >>because it violates what Wikipedia is not, particularly the >>rule that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.[5]

Again, this topic is linked NUMEROUS TIMES already on Wikipedia. Don't you think you should have some sort of historical reference for a topic you already have available in the public?

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Comment: Please confirm that the WikiLink for Black & Blue Records is correct. The Wikipedia article is about a French company that specializes in jazz and blues. That doesn't sound like the kind of thing this band does. If it is the same company, then the article about the record company needs an update. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:11, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

The link for Black & Blue Records is for a punk/hardcore/metal label located in the United States. Black & Blue Records is responsible for G.G. Allin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GG_Allin) and is the first label to carry his music. They continue to sell his albums today along with other notable acts. The French label does not appear to be in business anymore and is not connected in any way to the punk label.MetalMalice (talk) 19:31, 26 October 2013 (UTC)