User talk:Mexith8670

The summary
As of 5 June 2021.

CASES PER 100,000
 * <250: Sumut, NTB, Lampung, Kalbar
 * 250-499: Papua, Gorontalo, Maluku, Sultra, Malut, Jatim, Sulbar, Banten, Bengkulu, Sulteng, NTT, Sumsel, Jambi, Aceh
 * 500-749: Sulsel, Sulut, Jabar, Jateng
 * 750-999: Papbar, Kalsel, Kalteng, Riau, Sumbar, Kepri
 * ≥1,000: DKI, Kaltim, Kaltara, DIY, Bali, Babel

CONFIRMED CASES
 * <10,000: Papbar, Maluku, Bengkulu, Gorontalo, Jambi, Malut, Sulbar
 * 10,000-24,999: Papua, Sulut, Lampung, Sultra, Sulteng, Kalteng, Kaltara, NTT, Aceh, Babel, Kepri, NTB, Kalbar
 * 25,000-49,999: Bali, Banten, DIY, Sumut, Kalsel, Sumbar, Sumsel
 * 50,000-99,999: Kaltim, Sulsel, Riau
 * ≥100,000: DKI, Jabar, Jateng, Jatim

RECOVERIES
 * <10,000: Papbar, NTB, Maluku, Bengkulu, Gorontalo, Jambi, Malut, Sulbar
 * 10,000-24,999: Kalteng, Sulut, Lampung, Papua, Sumsel, Sulteng, NTT, Kaltara, Babel, Kepri, Aceh, Sultra, Kalbar
 * 25,000-49,999: Bali, Sumbar, Banten, DIY, Sumut, Kalsel
 * 50,000-99,999: Sulsel, Kaltim, Riau
 * ≥100,000: DKI, Jabar, Jatim, Jateng

DEATHS
 * <250: Sultra, Papua, Bengkulu, Gorontalo, Papbar, Malut, Maluku, Kaltara, Jambi, Sulbar, Kalbar
 * 250-499: NTB, Sulteng, NTT, Kepri, Babel
 * 500-999: Sulsel, Lampung, Sulut, Aceh, Kalteng
 * 1,000-2,499: Kaltim, Bali, Banten, Riau, Sumsel, DIY, Sumut, Kalsel, Sumbar
 * ≥2,500: DKI, Jateng, Jatim, Jabar

Bali and Banten passed 500 deaths. Aceh passed 250 deaths. Kalteng has not passed 10k recoveries. HiChrisBoyleHere (talk) 06:57, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Sumbar has not passed 500 cases/100,000. Sulut has. HiChrisBoyleHere (talk) 06:22, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Riau has passed 50k recoveries. HiChrisBoyleHere (talk) 07:09, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Re: Please block
Done, to match the other /16 range. Yes I know the /22 of the latest IP was also blocked, but blocking the /16 is probably a good idea too. Graham 87 06:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I've undone that block after noticing the conversation you had with Mz7, who placed the /22 block, and looking more deeply into the range's contributions. I've noticed from your contribs that you asked *eight* admins individually ... the admins' noticeboards are a better and more socially acceptable way of getting admins' attention. Graham 87 06:53, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The IPs inside the 3 ranges have vandalized pages I edited and taunted me personally since 7 June. And he (assuming the vandal is one same boy) did it all over the Wikimedia projects, even in Wikiquote, Croatian Wikipedia, and MetaWiki. So I did so because I am frustrated on this. And the WP:AIV was at a massive backlog which saw about 30 undone reports if I am not mistaken. I strongly believe the vandal is someone who knows me in real life, since he knows about my preferences and Twitter account. But I still can not find out who he is. So I suggest you to reinstate the block and do it longer than a month I presume. Thanks. Flix11 (talk) 07:50, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I sympathise with your predicament, but unfortunately South/South-east Asian IP address pools are some of the most dynamic in the world in my experience, and it's extremely hard to block an individual troublemaker from these ranges without either blocking an entire region or playing a constant game of Whac-A-Mole. If another admin feels comfortable re-imposing the block they can feel free to do so without consulting me, but I'm not quite there yet. Graham 87 09:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Kit
Hey. I love your kit designs. I wondered if you could add a third kit to Millwall F.C. when you find the time, it was just released today and is a great red design (https://shop.millwallfc.co.uk/replica-kits/third-kit/). Cheers! TheLostBoy (talk) 16:21, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Revert on Cavani
Noticed this is the 2nd time you are reverting my update when there was absolute no need. I updated the stats correctly in infobox this time. Give it a check. Would like to see a reply from you. Thanks! Kokoeist (talk) 14:34, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * You only updated the header. Flix11 (talk) 14:38, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

@Flix11 I updated the stats in infobox, and updated the timestamp. There was no mistake in at all. There was no need to revert it. You had the career stats section to update. You could've done it without reverting my edit. There is no rule that an editor have to update the infobox and career stats at the same time. Kokoeist (talk) 14:42, 7 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah, sorry. It was merely instinctive. Flix11 (talk) 14:48, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

No probs mate. I just wanted to know if I did anything wrong there. Happy editing. Cheers! Kokoeist (talk) 14:50, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Edit
I take it you have to be in a special sect to edit these things as all you did was undo and redo exactly what i did. Please explain Redmist79 (talk) 14:44, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * You did on De Gea and Fernandes BEFORE the match was over and it is violating WP:LIVESCORES. As far as I knew, the match was not done yet. Flix11 (talk) 14:46, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Requests for page protection
You might have missed my WP:Notification when I declined a request at WP:RFPP so I am posting here. The previous request is at permalink where I wrote:
 * As above (Mauricio Pochettino), I'm declining but if the problem continues, please add a short section on article talk showing why the edits are wrong and ping me. Then I'll look again.

The problem is that only someone familiar with the topic would know why the IP edits are vandalism (per definition at WP:VAND). I have declined the new request but am very willing to protect the page if I could see why the IP edits are vandalism. An explanation on talk also helps others who see activity at the article. Use a heading like "Recent edits" and ping me from there. Johnuniq (talk) 22:59, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Descriptive edit summaries
In heavily edited pages, could you please be a little more descriptive in your edit summaries, saying what you're doing and why? Like this one. What did you fix? It's helpful for the many people trying to review the sometimes hundreds of edits per day. ~Awilley (talk) 18:40, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Hyderabad FC 2020-21 kit
Hi. I observed that you worked a lot on many football pages and need a small help. There is a new jersey design for Hyderabad FC and was hoping if you could help in creating it to place in the 2020-21 Hyderabad FC season season page. The link for both home and away kits can be found below kit Please let me know if you could help me with this. Thanks. SaGa (talk) 01:43, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Man Utd 202021 UCL
The changes I made were correct. Why change them back? BRACK66 (talk) 09:15, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Cool
Hi Flix : sorry I lost my cool with you this afternoon. I will try to behave a bit better. Matilda Maniac (talk) 09:11, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Your response
I think your response will be valuable here:

Articles for deletion/List of Indonesian people with COVID-19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SunDawn (talk • contribs) 04:45, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Help?
Hi Flix11. I've seen you put up the new kits for NK Široki Brijeg. Now I've recently asked for help at the Template talk:Football kit/pattern list but no one answered. You see, three new kits were revealed for FK Željezničar Sarajevo not long ago, the home, away and third kit ones. Could you please design, upload them on commons and put them in the article's infobox? If it's easier to know, you don't have too do the third one if you don't want to, just the two main ones. I would greatly appreciate it. They were made by Macron. Here are the links for all three:
 * Home kit: https://shop.fkzeljeznicar.ba/proizvod/domaci-dres-2020-21/
 * Away kit: https://shop.fkzeljeznicar.ba/proizvod/gostujuci-dres-2020-2021/
 * Third kit: https://shop.fkzeljeznicar.ba/proizvod/treci-dres-2020-2021/

Kirbapara (talk) 15:09, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Sources in infobox
I hope you will respond this time, as this is not the first time I've left a message here or that we've had different views...

"Publisher is the body, website is the ".com". And people tends to read the infobox first hence importance for source. Who says sourcing is only limited to 1?"


 * The publisher is not the body. Publisher means that the origin of the reference, such as "Burnley F.C." (not Football Club) will not be shown in italics. When citing a website, it is in italics. It might not be a big deal, but when nominating an article for e.g. FAC, people will mention it.


 * Because people tend the read the infobox first, that doesn't mean there is any need for a reference, when it's already there further in the text/body of the article. Sourcing is therefore limited to only one place, as it becomes duplicate. See WP:INFOBOXREF (it's really stated clearly here...).

Again, I'm really not here to piss you off and I don't have any bad intentions. I'm going to revert the edits in both articles and I hope it's all clear now. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 08:20, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Read Template:Cite_web. Flix11 (talk) 08:22, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Your link doesn't mention any of what you've stated, only that the publisher parameter can be linked if it has a wikipedia page. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 08:25, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * So again, your edits in this setting are not justified on both the Burnley F.C. and Turf Moor pages. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 08:27, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * "The publisher is the company, organization or other legal entity that publishes the work being cited. Do not use the publisher parameter for the name of a work (e.g. a website, book, encyclopedia, newspaper, magazine, journal, etc.)." Flix11 (talk) 08:29, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * What's your point here? How is that relevant to the infobox debate? Regarding the publisher parameter, we don't know who is the publisher behind Burnley F.C.'s website, it could be an independant company. For example, 11v11.com is the website, but "AFS Enterprises" is the publisher.
 * What I meant by "mix up": because of the edit, the Burnley F.C. sources got two different parameters, either website or publisher, and it should be only one, because of consistency. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 08:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:INFOBOXREF carefully. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 08:41, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright, erase that. But regarding if you write website it should be burnleyfootballclub.com or if publisher then Burnley Football Club. Flix11 (talk) 08:43, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree and I used to write the full name indeed ("Football Club"), but I changed it some time ago to "F.C." because I wanted it to align with the titles of the WP articles. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 08:53, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Vietnam national football team update kit 2021?
Is there an update to the player shirt yet you? https://www.facebook.com/grandsportvietnam.official/ Nguonnhanluc853 (talk) 05:29, 19 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Sorry, can you update the Vietnam team shirt 2021 help me? https://grandsportvietnam.com/Nguonnhanluc853 (talk) 11:57, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Please contact User talk:JonasBR. He makes kits. Thank you. Flix11 (talk) 15:38, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I asked, but he did not respond? Nguonnhanluc853 (talk) 05:32, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Just be patient. Ask him on Commons Wikimedia instead of here. My request for Norwich City 3rd kit was only fulfilled about 3 months later. He seems put forward kits of his own Brazilian minnow clubs now. Again, contact him on Commons Wikimedia. Flix11 (talk) 05:36, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

DJPrettyUnicorns
Didn't have the SPI page on my watchlist and hadn't realize someone got to it before me, lol. I'll add mine as a comment to yours. Magitroopa (talk) 16:31, 19 January 2021 (UTC)


 * FYI... DJSpinnyDan is probably yet another account. Magitroopa (talk) 00:21, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Requesting some article expansion help
Greetings,

It seems you also work on articles related to Indonesia, I was looking for article expansion help at articles like Islamic advice literature, Draft:Aurats (word) an article about historical linguistics and in article  several sections are in need of expansion, besides presently those do not have   coverage about Indonesian. Please do visit those articles as and when time permits you and pl. do help in article expansions if those topics interest you.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 08:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

2020 Toyota Thailand Open
Thanks for the explanation. I moved your comment to User talk:Vinish Kumar V; please let me know if there are any more disruptive edits. Enterprisey (talk!) 08:58, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Manchester United page still not fixed
Hi Flix11, I noticed you reverted some of the edits on the Manchester United seasons page but unfortunately looked like the harm had already been caused may have to revert more because the layout still hasnt been fixed. Just drawing your attention. Thanks Ampimd (talk) 22:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

8 individual scorers
Apologies for the missing summary. The other matches had 7 individual scorers. So Manchester United are the only side to have 8 individual scorers in a single match. MattSucci (talk) 22:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Manchester United-Arsenal rivalry
Could you please take it to the talkpage or WT:FOOTY before reverting changes. For instance, there is no need to add statistics of every single league match since 1992, when a head-to-head table would suffice. Lemonade51 (talk) 20:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * "Then erase these kind of records on all pages. It was not me who added the league record in the 1st place," firstly, just because one page has a record of every single match does not mean this page should follow suit. Wikipedia is not a statistics directory; head-to-head results would suffice and if people want to know the result of in a league encounter in 2003 then they can be directed to the external links (where 11v11 has that information). Secondly, trying to deflect blame ("It was not me who added the league record in the 1st place") isn't going to solve anything. The page explicitly states that the rivalry died out around 2005, so what would be the point of including results post that period? Moreover, there is a recency bias, why are Premier League results only included and not Football League (when the rivalry 'started'?). Point is, a table with a summary of results is better than a comprehensive list. I've restored the page to how it was when it passed the WP:GA criteria. If you wish to challenge then post a comment on the talkpage or WT:FOOTY rather than reverting. Lemonade51 (talk) 12:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Match programmes
I don't think we can justify putting the match programme in the infobox as it's a copyrighted work and I don't think Fair Use is satisfied. We don't discuss the programme at all and I'm pretty sure the design of the programme is not the primary identifier for the match. – PeeJay 16:12, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The stadium pic is a worse primary identifier for the match. At least the programme is dedicated specifically for the match on the said date. I followed the Southampton F.C. 0–9 Leicester City F.C. Flix11 (talk) 16:20, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That article doesn't look like it's been peer reviewed or rated as Featured, whereas Manchester United F.C. 9–0 Ipswich Town F.C. has been and it was determined that match programme covers shouldn't be included unless their design is being commented on. The infobox image doesn't have to be a primary identifier of the subject, but if you want to use a copyrighted image, it serve as the primary identifier in order to satisfy the Fair Use criteria. – PeeJay 21:33, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Recent reverts
Hi, just wondering what the deal is with your recent reverts? Like here, where you restored content that isn't supported by the source (Matić wasn't involved in the 2015 League Cup Final). Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 22:12, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

J.League referees name translated list
https://data.j-league.or.jp/SFIX08/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by らぼるぺ (talk • contribs) 12:08, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

for your information--らぼるぺ (talk) 12:25, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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ART specimens/people tested graphs and method of counting
Hi Flix. I don't think we should create the ART specimens graphs. These are my reasons:
 * There's no any PCR/TCM specimens graphs. Starting from today, the Ministry of Health count them all as one. It will be confusing to add the numbers if we distinguish them. Plus this will only burden the article and redundant.
 * No consistency between specimens and people tested for both PCR/TCM and ART. I have fixed this issue so starting from 3 March (and from now on) the method of counting for the graphs will include the PCR/TCM and ART. HiChrisBoyleHere (talk) 17:32, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

2013–14 AFC Bournemouth season
Hiya Flix, are you able to move the football kits into the info box here and remove that bit from the article, there seems to be a number of Bournemouth articles this could be done on. Much appreciated if you can, Cheers. Govvy (talk) 12:05, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Dean Henderson
The other footnote I'm referring is the one in the Other column in the Shrewsbury Town row. The footnotes are written as sentence fragments and therefore aren't grammatically constructed in the way sentences usually would be, and writing "the" in front of each competition name isn't needed. See also WP:FOOTY/Players, the project approved MoS for player biographies, which doesn't include "the" in footnotes. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 17:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I take it you've no objection so I've changed it back. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Germany National team
Hey!

I am just wondering why my edit on Germany National team got reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noogometni urejevalec (talk • contribs) 06:11, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey. Just think that is too much information for now. I think there has not been something like this before. Flix11 (talk) 09:28, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Too much information? I just added that Low is stepping from the role of a national team's job after the euros. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noogometni urejevalec (talk • contribs) 15:07, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Different times
So I just realized that the Ministry of Health releases the vaccination numbers at various times. For example, today they updated it at 09:00, 15:00, and 18:00. Which one should we follow? HiChrisBoyleHere (talk) 18:22, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

2021 Makassar Bombing
I apologize for being rude, but I disagree with moving page Makassar cathedral bombing just because it's never happened before there. As with most of other terrorist attacks such as 2003 Aceh New Year's Eve bombing, 2005 Palu market bombing, 2020 South Daha Attack, 2019 Medan suicide bombing, etc are following this pattern to avoid generalized title. Nyanardsan (talk) 05:30, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Transfermarkt
According to Transfermarkt's login page: Whether player info, coach info, club info, or match report – as a Transfermarkt user, you can edit and add to almost all data by yourself. This makes it a self-published and therefore unreliable source. Just because the link to the previously cited source broke, does not give you licence to cite an unreliable one. Please do not add the link to 2020–21 Premier League again. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:16, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Darker blue
Hi Flix. I've just changed the color for >2,500 deaths (DKI, Jabar, Jateng, Jatim) on the map to slightly darker blue. Kindly change it whenever you're free. Thanks. HiChrisBoyleHere (talk) 05:30, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Fix on Disney Channel
Hello, I'm DinosaurTrexXX33, I saw you deleted my delete of the age ranges on Disney Channel. Please re-add them with a source next time. Thank you, DinosaurTrexXX33 (talk) 14:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Your editing
Please don't make edits like this. You changed the meaning of that text and left it making no sense. SarahSV (talk) 21:03, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Premier League table
Hi, there seems to be an error when editing the 2020–21 Premier League table. When I go to publish it, I get this error:

Warning: orphaned results = col_ECLPO

Warning: orphaned results = text_ECLPO.

Maybe you could have a look into it and see if you can fix it?

Regards

L1amw90 (talk) 21:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC)


 * That's fine. It is just a warning caused by the lack of declaration. Once we know who wins the EFL Cup we will never see that again. Flix11 (talk) 21:26, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

AFC Champions League group tables

 * Hello dear user,
 * Does it need source? Farzinovski (talk) 22:45, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * see it Farzinovski (talk) 22:49, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * No. I just got confused since you did not update the dates as well, so I reverted it. See Special:Diff/1018597290. Flix11 (talk) 22:57, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Ryan Mason
And there I was thinking he is far too young to be in a manager position, thinking, there must be miss-information going on, he is only training the first team for a day... but then, 24 hours later they appoint him as interim manager! Ugg, my heart sank, he is only 29! Youngest Interim manager in history!!??? Govvy (talk) 08:44, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * According to OptaJoe, the youngest ever Spurs manager in league history, the youngest manager in PL era. Flix11 (talk) 09:53, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

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Champions League statistics
The new style should be adopted for even Europa League then.--Island92 (talk) 10:22, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed. Will you help? Flix11 (talk) 10:24, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * For this time I'd rather you completed it, whether you don't mind. Articles are not too many about the Europa League.--Island92 (talk) 10:28, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * In any case, it would have been much better had you got consensus for this new style either in the talk page or into WikiProject Football.--Island92 (talk) 10:42, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

PL article reversions
why do you keep reverting other people's additions like this: ? You have not fully restored the information and it is just plain obnoxious. Spike &#39;em (talk) 06:46, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Edit warring
Please, do not edit war. Per common courtesy (WP:BRD): you were bold, I reverted, you should discuss (not keep on reverting...) Nehme1499 21:12, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, why then? Flix11 (talk) 21:27, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Why what? You are the one making unexplained changes. What purpose does messing up the infobox serve? Nehme1499 21:29, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Why do you insist on giving enters on infobox? Flix11 (talk) 00:02, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It's clearer, more concise, and it doesn't make sense to do otherwise for players who have only played for one or two clubs. I would understand your formatting if they played for 15, 20+ clubs, but in Amad Diallo's case there is no reason at all to not have the parameters on separate lines. Nehme1499 00:14, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Your recent comment on Jr2006Venz (talk)
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Prepare editing
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DeWitt Clinton
In terms of power, the Governor of New York is much more influential than a Vice-President. One VP, John Garner, said the office wasn't worth a bucket of warm piss. Anyway, so be it. WQUlrich (talk) 13:02, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

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NBA draft pictures
From 2018-present we are too early in career to start removing pictures. Players are too early in career. Rikster2 (talk) 01:28, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Rikster2 Whilst I agree with that take there is far too many players included on the notable list. Compare this to other draft classes, in which there is typically 5 or 6 max. In the 2018 class, there is 15. This is far too much. Similar to other recent draft classes the only players included are ones who look likely to be significant standouts in the draft class. Using the players who made the All-Rookie team like my previous edit, helps me be objective on who is valid to be included. They can always be added back. Mexith8670 (talk) 02:34, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * There frankly aren’t that many pictures listed in those drafts. Let it ride u to their careers take shape Rikster2 (talk) 01:52, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Rikster2 I don't understand what you mean. Mexith8670 (talk) 02:50, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean that the picture are not excessive at this point. If you are on a mobile device or PC the pics don’t extend beyond the table of players. So leave it until the players have a chance to develop. Rikster2 (talk) 01:56, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Im afraid that is not relevant. We have to remain cohesive with every other draft class. All of which don't have over ten notable players. Although it might be the case that we aren't running out of space, remaining objective and removing cruft is integral. Use the talk page as appose to edit warring as we have been doing. Mexith8670 02:50, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * you are the one who has been edit warring. The article had the pics before that. It’s not cruft, it’s just pictures of notable players who were drafted, including the college NPOY and the guy drafted #2 Rikster2 (talk) 02:06, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Does not matter, it's wrong and needs to be adjusted. Tell me what other draft class has 15 notable players? Luka Doncic and Trae Young have made appearances in the All-star game so that point is completely invalid. They can always be added back but we need to shorten down information that is cruft. This is the exact same treatment that decades of other draft classes have had. I'm finding it especially difficult to understand your validations also. I'm quite happy to leave Bagley in for the reasons you mentioned regardless of how underwhelming his NBA career has been up until this point. Mexith8670 03:01, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * No, it really doesn’t “need” to be adjusted. You are applying a bias to these articles. How do you know who is notable in an NBA sense in these last couple of draft classes. You are really going to argue the #2 pick or the college player of the year haven’t achieved notability? They can be kept in a list that isn’t excessive right now and only your bias says differently. Rikster2 (talk) 02:20, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Basketball Association/Archive 41. Rikster2 (talk) 02:30, 9 June 2021 (UTC)