User talk:Miacek/Archives/2018/May

Wut?
The user has added new content in the middle of already cited material without providing any new references. MilborneOne (talk) 18:40, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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All content requires reliable sources
Please do not add or change content, as you did at John Birch Society, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. 32.218.40.151 (talk) 01:36, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

CPC TP
In light of our recent encounters on the edit-warring admin noticeboard concerning a certain editor, your comments to the discussion that's under the "Socialism authoritarianism political position" section of the article mentioned above would be welcomed. Wingwraith (talk) 22:08, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Lisette Kampus


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 * This wikipedia has gone crazy.Miacek (talk) 16:36, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Uwe Backes


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 * Sigh: . What next? Propose Karl Popper for deletion?Miacek (talk) 17:07, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

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National conservatism : Great Russia / Rodina
Hello,

You say to an anonymous user some days ago that Great Russia must not be included in National conservatism article because it's a fascist party, which is effectively true (to be more precise, a number of party's members have close ties with neo-fascist or even neo-nazi groups, particularly visible during street demonstrations). Nonetheless, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the corresponding article of Great Russia in Russian language here ru:Великая Россия (партия) mention in its infobox national conservatism (along with patriotism, russian nationalism, orthodox traditionalism) as an ideology of the party. So why not including this party in National conservatism article ? However, Rodina appears in this article while some observers labeled Rodina as neo-nazi, furthermore Dmitri Rogozin who is an important figure of Rodina was also the founder of Great Russia (which counts among its members some people that also belong to Rodina). --Martopa (talk) 10:15, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, I do think that adding openly fascist type organizations such as Velikaya Rossiya and Jobbik, as I've explained here makes no sense, it taints moderate national conservative parties and furthermore, whitewashes the extremist character of such parties. Russian Wikipedia cannot always be relied on, e.g. it's impossible  to remove the ridiculous notions there that United Russia is a liberal (!!!) conservative party. Velikaya Rossiya is widely seens as an ultranationalist, xenophobic and even fascist party by the pro-Western liberals: .Miacek  (talk) 13:14, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * So, should we remove Rodina seeing that this party is also described as extremist/neo-nazi ? A few years earlier, Rodina was even banned by justice for incitement to racial hatred. Currently, Jobbik seems to be less radical than few years ago, it even formed electoral alliances in recent local elections with left-wing parties to defeat Fidesz's candidate, so it can't be comparable to Greek Golden Dawn or Italian New Force. On the other hand, Austrian FPÖ and French National Front appears in National conservatism article as they are "moderate". Nevertheless, in Wesrtern Europe, everybody (aside from supporters of National Front or FPÖ themselves who find "far-right" pejorative, it's the same thing for far-left parties, nobody wants to appear as extremist) considers these two parties as extremist, racist, far-right ; furthermore FPÖ was historically founded by former neo-nazis. --Martopa (talk) 17:26, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Agree on Rodina, disagree on FPÖ and FN. FPÖ was founded by former NSDAP members but it used to be semi-liberal for decades, FPD in Germany also had strong ex-NSDAP presence and for some time was considered the most right-wing among German mainstream parties, until it shifted towards social liberalism. The Verfassungsschutzbericht for Austria has to my knowledge never mentioned FPÖ, it does mention and monitor parties it considers far-right or far-left, and it's not just Verfassungsschutzbericht alone: it simply represents the scholarly consensus in Austria. With FN it is more difficult, it was founded as a far-right party and acted like that under the old Le Pen, but has shifted more to the center under its new leader.Miacek (talk) 08:38, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Ukochany kraj
...a wikipedysta daje dwoje rąk. Teraz siegam po majteczki w kropeczki. Staszek Lem (talk) 02:41, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Dziękuję bardzo!Miacek (talk) 07:40, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Loveshy
Saw your edit and removal to Incel, thought you might find Articles for deletion/Love-shyness (2nd nomination) useful. GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:45, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Oh dear. Even THIS has been deleted. I was pleasantly surprised that my article on the fringe phenomenon G0y was not nominated for deletion, however, English Wikipedia doesn't seem to be particularly tolerant on heterosexual variety. Oh well... Miacek (talk) 17:50, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I didn't think loveshyness was an exclusively heterosexual concept. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:01, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I've read some of Gilmartin and he identified loveshyness as an exclusively heterosexual phenomenon. He pointed out that gay courtship is fundamentally different from straight one in that even shy men there have a chance, such as getting courtship initiated by more extroverted dudes.Miacek (talk) 18:04, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Because women never initiate courtship with shy men? Actually, nevermind, this is going to end up going down a rabbit hole on a topic where we quite clearly disagree. If you disagree with the love-shyness deletion or think there are sufficient sources such that the article should be recreated, WP:DRV is the place to go. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:15, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You clearly haven't even glanced into the book. I suggest that you do. As for DRV, indeed, the article should be undeleted given the sheer amount of coverage the concept has in scholarly sources .Miacek (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mart Saarma
Hello, Miacek. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Mart Saarma, for deletion because it's a biography of a living person that lacks references. If you don't want Mart Saarma to be deleted, please add a reference to the article.

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Thanks,

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:01, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

May 2018


A page you created has been nominated for deletion as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject or any other entity. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. – Lionel(talk) 05:55, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Lionel, template:db-attack-notice expects you to include a link to the page. Do so in future. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:32, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Miacek, the "attack" was properly referenced and in any case, outside of countries like North Korea, politicians know that receiving severe criticism is part of the job. But your piece was too short to be viable so I have moved it to Draft:Petras Gražulis. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:32, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll deal with it. thanks.Miacek (talk) 09:35, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

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Conservative People's Party of Estonia‎
Hi, about your additions to this article, i have some questions: "Claims have been made that the left-wing populist Estonian Center Party has been quietly supporting EKRE as a "Trojan horse" to weaken other Estonian right-wing parties, auch as offering them surprisingly much media coverege in the Center Party-controlled Tallinn Television". — I can't find that sentence in that article. And whose claims are they? --Pelmeen10 (talk) 16:31, 17 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, will add specific sources for this soon. It's common knowledge in Estonia that EKRE was used as a Trojan Horse by the Estonian Center Party to weaken normal Estonian right.Miacek (talk) 16:41, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm a person living in Estonia and I have not heard it - so it's not common knowledge. And please do read Wikipedia's rules: Verifiability. Thank you. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:45, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Beta provider for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Beta provider is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Miacek. Thank you. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:26, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Late pings don't work
Just a heads up, little-known fact: This notification to GorillaWarfare will not be delivered because it was added after the original post. All you've done is make it appear to others that a notification was sent. In that situation you would have to add a new post containing the new ping and a new signature. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  05:04, 19 May 2018 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. Do you speak Russian?Miacek (talk) 05:08, 19 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Nyet. This will still not generate a notification to GorillaWarfare, since you did not add a new post containing a new ping and a new signature. The ping and the signature have to be added in the same edit, else the notification does not occur. Adding and re-signing to test GorillaWarfare's statement below. Did you get that notification, GW? Crap, forgot to re-sign. How about this one?  &#8213; Mandruss   &#9742;  05:20, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I've seen it already, but Mandruss is right that if you need to adjust a ping, you also need to remove your signature and re-sign. GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:16, 19 May 2018 (UTC)


 * 'fraid not, no pings... It's like the good ol' days when all we had were watchlists :P GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:21, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought. You need an entirely new post, like this one. &#8213; Mandruss   &#9742;  05:22, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yep, that one worked. I wonder what the software checks to decide the difference. GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:25, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I wonder about a lot of things at Wikipedia. &#8213; Mandruss   &#9742;  05:26, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You and me both... GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:27, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

May 2018
To enforce an arbitration decision you have been blocked from editing. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions. If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page:. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. Courcelles (talk) 18:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)  Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."
 * First year of this is an AE block, the rest of it is a usual admin block. Also, I am topic banning you indefinitely from any edit: about (a) GamerGate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed. Courcelles (talk) 18:51, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks
Just want to say thanks for your many positive contributions to the discussion. Hope to see you back someday. Rivertorch FIREWATER  23:32, 19 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hey, thank you for your kind words! Anyway, I got so badly addicted to Wikipedia (made more edits in April-May than sometimes in a whole year!) that it's really net positive to abstain. Well, especially if I can edit Estonian wiki anyway and - despite this being completely minor one among the variety of topics I'm interested in - the LGBT topics in et wiki are completely deserted and badly need extra work. Regards, Miacek (talk) 09:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Good bye and good luck in real life! BTW, that your Old Testament comment above... According to Christian doctrine, there is no real contradiction between Old and New Testaments ("Не отменить я пришел, а исполнить." ). But for a layperson God indeed seem to be different in the Old Testament. It is about him Omar Khayyam wrote this:

Ловушки, ямы на моем пути. Их Бог расставил. И велел идти. И все предвидел. И меня оставил. И судит тот, кто не хотел спасти!

Наполнив жизнь соблазном ярких дней, Наполнив душу пламенем страстей, Бог отреченья требует: вот чаша — Она полна: нагни — и не пролей!

Ты наше сердце в грязный ком вложил. Ты в рай змею коварную впустил. И человеку — Ты же обвинитель? Скорей проси, чтоб он Тебя простил!

And this is definitely not a Christian concept. This applies to wikiediting too. Have a happy life. My very best wishes (talk) 17:17, 25 May 2018 (UTC)