User talk:Michael2023Ireland

February 2023
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 * Thank you . This information provided is important. Thanks Michael2023Ireland (talk) 00:35, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Tacyarg. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Irish Travellers, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Tacyarg (talk) 10:06, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Irish Travellers
Hi Michael, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm curious about your recent edits to the Irish Travellers article, where you said Travellers call themselves Irish Travellers and don't like being called Pavee or Mincéirs/Mincéirí. I'm just wondering where that's coming from, given that one of the Traveller organisations is called Pavee Point, and I learnt the term 'Mincéir' from Rosaleen McDonagh. Cheers, Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:39, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your reply. So I volunteer with Kerry Travellers Health, a Community Development Project.. one of or prominent organisations is called Pavee point. The word Pavee has always been regarded as an insult to Irish Travellers. I am a Traveller myself, and I can say it is the worst insult you can call a traveller. If you Google this word, you will see how it’s been poorly used. The word Mincéir does not insult Irish Travellers. But very few Travellers know what it means. Hence the majority of Irish Travellers do not speak Irish. I recently attended my Nu Galway for a 100 years celebration of traveller culture, and many raised the issue that they didn’t like being referred to as an Irish Mincéir. Travllers before to be identified as Irish Travllers Thanks,
 * Michael2023Ireland (talk) 12:34, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that, Michael - every day is a schoolday! It looks like the dislike of the word "mincéir" isn't universal - as mentioned, I learnt it from Rosaleen McDonagh and I've seen it used by other Travellers on that article, too. But if we can find sources for that, we can certainly include that some Travellers don't like the term while others do use it. Cheers, Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 13:22, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Michael2023Ireland (talk) 13:25, 9 February 2023 (UTC)