User talk:MichaelI Effiong

November 2023
Hello, I'm Arjayay. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions&#32;to Akwa Ibom State have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. That article clearly states - ♦♦♦ Please keep the list in alphabetical order by LAST NAME ♦♦♦ - Arjayay (talk) 15:36, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Akwa Ibom State. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Please keep the list in alphabetical order by LAST NAME -as it clearly states - Arjayay (talk) 15:44, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Akwa Ibom State, you may be blocked from editing. - Arjayay (talk) 15:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

December 2023
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Ibibio people, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 03:54, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The data I have presented is indigenous data and is appropriately referenced based on an indigenous source. The CIA's data on the demographic groups in Nigeria has not been updated since 2018. The 2018 CIA data is also flawed because it grossly differs from the actual Nigerian estimates from the 2006 census; which was the last time Nigeria had a census. Ibibio people are indigenous people and will not be forced to accept an erroneous population figure from a foreign entity. Are you a Nigerian, or are you an Ibibio person. How can you use the population numbers from Joshua project (a foreign private entity) and then cite the CIA as the source. That is unethical. I will make a formal complaint to wikipedia if your interventions persist; it almost amounts to defaming the Ibibio people. And I will find out who you actually are. Nigeria will hold a census in 2024, please stop altering the Ibibio population until that census is held. Nigeria is an independent country and will provide the world with its own figures. MichaelI Effiong (talk) 19:11, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Nuvola apps important.svg Please stop. If you continue to attempt to make unconstructive edits to Wikipedia as you did at Ibibio people and removing reliable sources, you may be blocked from editing. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 20:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Cookiemonster1618, The data I have presented is indigenous data and is appropriately referenced based on an indigenous source. The CIA's data on the demographic groups in Nigeria has not been updated since 2018. The 2018 CIA data is also flawed because it grossly differs from the actual Nigerian estimates from the 2006 census; which was the last time Nigeria had a census. Ibibio people are indigenous people and will not be forced to accept an erroneous population figure from a foreign entity. Are you a Nigerian, or are you an Ibibio person. How can you use the population numbers from Joshua project (a foreign private entity) and then cite the CIA as the source. That is unethical. I will make a formal complaint to wikipedia if your interventions persist; it almost amounts to defaming the Ibibio people. And I will find out who you actually are. Nigeria will hold a census in 2024, please stop altering the Ibibio population until that census is held. Nigeria is an independent country and will provide the world with it's own figures. MichaelI Effiong (talk) 19:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Your data is from 2008 and is old and outdated and even than 3.6% of 140 million is not 10 million it is 5 million. If you continue to restore it again and remove the new one and disuptively remove content you will be blocked from editing. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 20:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

December 2023
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 21:06, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Since you've continued to revert your edit into the article, after being notified of the AN/I discussion, it would be good if you would explain in detail why you think it should be the 10 million figure versus the calculated 3.6% of total population which would place it around 5 million. By reverting to the version of the article you want without discussion despite being reverted yourself you are engaged in an edit war. -- A Rose Wolf  13:55, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear ARoseWolf,
 * Thank you for asking me to explain my position.
 * The Ibibio are one of many indigenous peoples in Nigeria. The last population census held in Nigeria was back in 2006. It was based on the result of this census held in 2006 that Simpson et al. (Simpson, A., & Oyetade, B. (2008). Nigeria: Ethno-linguistic competition in the Giant of Africa. In Oxford University Press eBooks (pp. 172–198). https://doi.org/10.1093/oso/9780199286744.003.0010 ) published the ethnic demographic summary of proportions which I cited. The population and percentages provided by Simpson et al. in 2008 did not depart significantly from the figures published in the CIA World Fact Book of 2008. Simpson et al. pointed out that the Ibibio made up 3.6% and the CIA World Fact Book published in 2008 ( https://allcountries.org/wfb2008/nigeria/nigeria_people.html ) maintained that the Ibibio made up 3.5% of the total Nigerian population. In fact, the 3.5% figure for the Ibibio (according to the CIA World Fact Book) dates back to at least 2002 ( https://greekorthodoxchurch.org/wfb2002/nigeria/nigeria_people.html ). This percentage for the Ibibio people was maintained consistently (each year) in the CIA World Fact Book from 2002 to 2018 ( https://allcountries.org/world_fact_book_2018/nigeria/nigeria_people.html ). However, in 2019 (during the second term of president Buhari), the percentage of the Ibibio was revised to 2.2% (from 3.5%), another notable percentage revision was that of the Ijaw indigenous people, this was revised from 10% to 2% according to the CIA World Fact Book published in 2019 ( https://theodora.com/world_fact_book_2019/nigeria/nigeria_people.html ). The question therefore is what could have happened to these two ethnic groups within a space of 1 year (i.e. from 2018 to 2019) to result in a gross reduction of their population in Nigeria? Such an abrupt change in figures does not appear probable and consequently, the data became questionable. This is why I sought to maintain the ethnic demographic summary of proportions based on the last known census. It is correct that with a population of 140 million in 2006, the Ibibio making up 3.6% would number 5,040,000. But the projected population of Nigeria today is 230 million ( https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/nigeria/ ), and going by the same ethnic demographic summary of proportions, the Ibibio would number 8,280,000 (3.6%), this does not include the Ibibio in the diaspora (i.e. outside Nigeria). If we employ the ethnic demographic summary of proportions provided in the CIA World Fact Book published in 2023 ( https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/nigeria/ ), the population of the Ibibio would be 4,155,169 (1.8% of the total Nigerian population of 230,842,743) and please observe that this figure would actually be lower than the population of the Ibibio back in 2008 i.e. 4,726,090 (3.5% of the total Nigerian population of 135,031,164) according to the CIA World Fact Book in 2008 ( https://allcountries.org/wfb2008/nigeria/nigeria_people.html ). So it is evident that there appears to be a problem with the data in the CIA World Fact Book.
 * There are at least 8,280,000 Ibibio in Nigeria today based on the 3.6% ethnic demographic summary of proportions derived from the last census, and the Ibibio predominantly reside in Akwa Ibom and Cross River states of Nigeria. As alluded to above this does not include the Ibibio in the diaspora. The Niger Delta Budget Monitoring Group which civil society group in Nigeria (recognised by the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations) estimates that up to 10 million people originating from Akwa Ibom state reside outside Nigeria ( https://www.nigerdeltabudget.org/overview-of-akwa-ibom/ ). This figure is inclusive of other ethnic groups alongside the Ibibio (including Ekid, Efik, Annang, Oron, Ibeno and Obolo). However, the Ibibio make up 70% of the population of people originating from the said state in Nigeria (Udofia, David. “Peacebuilding Mechanisms in Akwa Ibom State Oil-Bearing Communities in Nigeria.” African Conflict and Peacebuilding Review 1, no. 2 (2011): 104–19. https://doi.org/10.2979/africonfpeacrevi.1.2.104 ).
 * It is difficult to lay hold on a concrete figure for the Ibibio in the diaspora, but what is certain is that there are at least 8,280,000 Ibibio in Nigeria today based on the 3.6% ethnic demographic summary of proportions derived from the last census.  Thank you. MichaelI Effiong (talk) 17:58, 18 December 2023 (UTC)