User talk:MichaelWayneRosen

November 2009
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Hi and thanks. I think after some headscratching I figured this and so found a site that gave the same info but wouldn't cause you or anyone else to revert it. M Sorry, I can't find the tildes

Tommy Thumb's Pretty Song Book
A less official welcome to the World of Wikipedia. Thanks for you edits to this article. I have adjusted the citations to fit in with rest of the article. I'm frankly pretty used to being a one person wikiproject on English nursery rhymes, so its very pleasant to get some informed input. If you do get time I would appreciate it if you could cast your eyes over Tommy Thumb's Song Book and see if there anything that can be added or corrected (this one is pretty much my fault). Also if you are (as I assume in good faith from your edits), THE Michael Rosen, you may want to be careful with aspect of your own biography, or you will probably find yourself in an argument with someone who believes they are more of an expert on your life and work than you are. And also - thanks for Going on a Bear Hunt. If you want to reply you can do it here, I prefer to keep conversations together, and I will be watching the page for a while.--''' SabreBD  (talk ) 09:51, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I am Michael Rosen - no point in doing pseudonyms and yes, I do glance at my own biog and occasionally add new articles and that sort of thing, best MichaelWayneRosen I can't find the tildes!

By the way, I was 92.236.33.240 until I got my act together and logged in. MichaelWayneRosen still can't find the tildes. By the way, do you just type in the tildes (when I find them) and your username comes up automatically - assuming you're logged in, that is?


 * 92.236.33.240 does make you sound like a prisoner, so I guess you have escaped. You can type the four tildes separately (they are on the # key next to return), but the easiest thing is to look up a the squares above the edit window (i.e the thing that you edit in) and usually 10 from the left is one that looks like part of a copperplate signature, click on that and it will add them - when you save it will turn them into your signature + date etc.--'''  SabreBD  (talk ) 23:42, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks--MichaelWayneRosen (talk) 00:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC) did that do it?

You're blue and black, I'm red and grey. --MichaelWayneRosen (talk) 01:00, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Congratulations. That's because I was so bored I got myself a fancy script and because you don't have a user page set up yet. When you do the link will go blue.--''' SabreBD  (talk ) 01:04, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I've just had a look at the subjects you've written about and a lot of it overlaps with my work. Did you see the exhibition I co-curated at the British Library - 'Twinkle Twinkle Little Bat'? If you google it, you'll get an idea of its range. Re 'children's rhymes' and your category 'Improper Verses', I edited two volumes 'Rude Rhymes' and 'Rude Rhymes 2' which are, as far as I know, the only fairly systematic collections of children's rude rhymes. They were published in their complete version by Signet, a subsidiary of Penguin. The BL has set up a children's songs, games and rhymes project which I'm a peripheral part of. Malcolm, the librarian at Cecil Sharp House is involved too.

Interesting too that you wrote the entry on Ballad Operas. In the far-off days when I hung out with Ewan MacColl, he was forever claiming the virtue of these and also claimed that the BL (BM in those days) had a huge archive of them, and that some of them were very good. He also said that he was writing a new one, set in the last days of the tall ships, I think, but if he did, it would be amongst his papers. --MichaelWayneRosen (talk) 02:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah you have been checking up on me, yes we do seem to have a lot of areas of interest in common. There is a lot I would like to respond to here, but I am aware we are getting a bit away from Wikipedia editing and that is discouraged, even on a user talk page. If it is OK I will send you an email through your website. I would have done it already, but the motherboard on my pc blew up yesterday, and I am working form my laptop, so it will have to wait until I get into work. I hope that is OK. Its fine if you would rather not, I am sure you get a lot of emails.--''' SabreBD  (talk ) 23:12, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, my private email is fine --MichaelWayneRosen (talk) 23:35, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry still having problems with my email. I hope to see my pc again tomorrow. In the meantime I wondered if you found this article on your own yet List of nursery rhymes.--''' SabreBD  (talk ) 22:49, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Do you have the Opies' 'Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes'? I seem to remember that they've got about 500 in there. I have it but not at hand. I guess you or I could laboriously put each one in to your list? In case, you don't know the book, it is meticulously sourced, with each rhyme given its complete printing history. The only things missing from it that I think should perhaps be there are one or two rhymes that have become de facto nursery rhymes like 'Pop goes the weasel'.--MichaelWayneRosen (talk) 01:05, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes I have the Opies' opus. It sits on my desk next to me most of the time. They covered most of the other rhymes in The Singing Game, The Lore and Language of Schoolchildren and Children's Games in Street and Playground. Most of the references in these articles to these books were put in by me. I have been planning to construct a list of those traditional rhymes that they did cover, but are not on Wikipedia, with a view to adding to the coverage here, so I think I will advance it as a project. It could be argued that some are not notable, but if they were covered by the Opies there is an argument to the contrary.--''' SabreBD  (talk ) 07:45, 19 November 2009 (UTC)