User talk:Michael Sieger

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Nomination of List of left-wing terrorist attacks for deletion
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Blocked as a sockpuppet
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 * @Bbb23: what's going on here? Because they don't appear to be blocked. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:35, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If you look at the user's block log and the SPI, you will see that they were unblocked and why. I removed the sock tag from the user's userpage but did not remove the block notice. The user can remove it if they wish.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:18, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Restoring inapplicable content
You seem to be missing the point on the left wing terror incidents list - the point is it shouldn't host incidents that are not motivated by left-wing ideology. Your edit summaries seem to imply that I think nationalist = right-wing ... Well you made a huge assumption there, and that's entirely not the case. It is irrelevant where nationalists are on the political spectrum in the context because the ideology motivating them to violence is their nationalism. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:32, 1 August 2023 (UTC)


 * For starters, I apologize for assuming your intention regarding the removal of nationalist motivated terrorist attacks. However, when you initially removed the attacks from the list, you provided no reasoning for why nationalism cannot be considered a left-wing ideology. I should have not assumed your intention, but you should have provided a reason behind your initial decision.
 * Furthermore, you claim that List of left-wing terrorist attacks "shouldn't host incidents that are not motivated by left-wing ideology." I apologize if I am misrepresenting your argument, but what you seem to be saying is that nationalism cannot be a motivation for left-wing ideology. I disagree with this. Nationalism that is based upon anti-imperialism, social equality and national liberation is considered left-wing (this is explained Wikipedia page regarding Left-wing nationalism). In addition to this, you claim that "the ideology motivating them to violence is their nationalism." This is not entirely true. Groups like PLO, PLFP, DLFP, ETA and many other were motivated by other left-wing ideologies such as socialism, secularism and anti-imperialism. So while nationalism was a motivating ideology for some of the attacks listed, other left-wing ideologies motivated their actions.
 * I will accept that I had made a mistake by only listing nationalism as the motivation for the attacks. Michael Sieger (talk) 09:36, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I should mention that I won't undo your changes to List of left-wing terrorist attacks and will take a hiatus from editing on the page. Michael Sieger (talk) 09:38, 1 August 2023 (UTC)