User talk:Michaelmas1957/Archive 2011

Speedy deletion nomination of Smart arts


A tag has been placed on Smart arts requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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February 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Odyssey Moon, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Dawnseeker2000  00:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Before saving your changes to an article, please provide an edit summary, which you forgot to do before saving your recent edit to STS-133. Doing so helps everyone understand the intention of your edit (and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism). It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. ''Very few edit summaries across all edits. It makes it a lot easier to see what was done and needs to be done.'' -- Navy Blue84  21:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Topple the Tyrants for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Topple the Tyrants is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Topple the Tyrants until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:56, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

March 2011
Hi Michaelmas1957, You might consider adding something to your WP:user page, as it will get the red out of your name in edit histories. Welcome to Wikipedia. If I can assist you in the future, please feel free to let me know. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 12:00, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * That worked. That is considered your own personal space, and you decide what, if anything, you want to add.  Happy editing.   7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 13:30, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You're right it looks better not being a redlink; but I really don't have anything I want to say on a user page. Thanks for the heads-up though. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 13:32, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Red links draw unwanted attention (and actions) from some other editors. I happen to like some of the WP:user boxes, and you might troll around some of the user pages to see if you are interested in them.  As I said, it's your choice.  Do add edit summaries, as that again limits the imposition on other editors, and makes them more disposed to leave you alone.  I'm not speaking for me personally, but I am simply relating what I have observed.
 * No worries.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 14:18, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You mean editors might assume a redlink user page belongs to a vandal? Come to think of it I have noticed that most of the vandals I've noticed here had redlinks, those which bothered to make accounts at all. Thanks for the info Michaelmas1957 (talk) 14:21, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Of course. And a double red link from an IP address draws real scrutiny. We have a lot of problems in wikipedia, one of which is WP:Vandalism, and another of which is recruiting and keeping good editors (like you). Adopting pages to watch over (especially those with less than 30 watchers) is a good and useful thing to do, as you will discover on your own. Some of the bigger pages have so many watchers that they tend to take care of themselves. Keep up the good work. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 14:45, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Angolan Civil War
Hello: as I am in favour of a global revision of this article, and have started to make some contributions in this sense, I was delighted to see your streamlining the introduction. Can we expect more of this? And is your concern just formal, or are you acquainted with Angola? Aflis (talk) 12:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, my concern is mostly formal, but i do intend to continue cleanup of that article, and of other important but over-long articles such as the History of Cuba. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 12:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, in that case I shall wait for you to finish cleaning up this article, and then restart the global revision of its contents. Aflis (talk) 16:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks for letting me know. As I have right now lots of others tasks on my hands, I shall take the revision up in a week's time or so, and do it bit by bit. Aflis (talk) 11:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC) PS: I just discovered the series of changes you have made: they are in fact helpful. There are two or three minor points where the wording has to be slightly adjusted, but this can be done easily when I take up the revision. I was quite taken back when I saw that User Namiba had cut out an essential part in the Roots of the Conflict section; I hate reverting, but this time it had to be done. Aflis (talk) 19:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree; I thought that removing that whole subsection on ethnic divisions was a bit extreme, but as I'm not an expert on Angola I assumed (a bit gullibly) that User:Namiba knew what they were doing. Thanks for reverting it Michaelmas1957 (talk) 19:09, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for your copy-editing on All-Ukrainian Union "Svoboda"! —  Yulia Romero  • Talk to me!  16:01, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 21:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

turbochargers = turbine driven compressors
Hello Michael, I am curious as to the source of information that you used to define Turbo superchargers as you did. My experience in turbomachinery and working for a short time for the coproducer of America's World War II Turbo superchargers leaves me with a different point of view. Superchargers as far as I know are positive displacement devices. Additionally, they are almost always driven mechanically via drive belt, camshaft chain, camshaft, or crankshaft. I think we agree on this. Next we have turbochargers. And I think we agree on that definition. The problem, As I see it, has to do with the definition of Turbo supercharging. As far as I know, there has been no generally accepted applications of turbine driven supercharger, meaning a positive displacement device. The reason for this is that the operating characteristics of the supercharger and turbine to not match well. In contrast the centrifugal style supercharger, a mechanically driven centrifugal compressor was popular in early fighter aircraft engines and are still made today by companies like Paxton for automotive applications. General Electric's use of the term Turbo supercharger was a misnomer or colloquialism used to differentiate their machine from the centrifugal style charger used in Europe. Other than making a historical note, I think that using Turbo supercharger as an alternate name for turbocharger will confuse people using current terminology. There is my soapbox, what you think? Martin Mkoronowski (talk) 05:57, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, I was just using the term as it seemed to be defined in the body of the turbocharger article. I'm not an expert on turbomachinery, so please correct it if you have a better definition.Michaelmas1957 (talk) 01:29, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Editor-ship
Micheal, I too wish to welcome you to wiki-land and noticed your edits to WikiProject Spaceflight articles STS-133, 134, and others. There is a section called "Join us", please considered joining. I know you have been previously welecomed but have cleaned up your talk area. Collaboration on space articles is quite enjoyable. With over 3,000 edits you've done since last Nov, I would like to share the Journeyman's badge with you. Feel free to transfer the badge to your User:Michaelmas1957 page; and update your badges as you pass the different badges' milestones. Thank you again for the STS updates, most appreciated. We got a lot of work to do on the plethora spaceflight articles, both historic and up-coming. Cheers! LanceBarber (talk) 04:39, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Date of the Flood (Noah's Ark)
I like the result. They were trying to get rid of that on the talk page, but so far it's still there. Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

US interstate roads listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect US interstate roads. Since you had some involvement with the US interstate roads redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so).  Imzadi 1979  →   18:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Kentridge articles
Thanks for the message on my talk page. I don't doubt your good faith. My suspicion fell on TroutprincessHK. I thought it was probably the subject himself because the address was created at 20h54 on 27 August 2010 and by 22h08 had created the Robert Kentridge article - and done nothing since. In fact, though, if you look at the first edit by that user it was to insert an inappropriate reference to Robert's daughter, Hannah, (a student, learning Japanese in her spare time) into the Sydney Kentridge page, followed by the burst of activity with respect to Robert Kentridge. Is it too far-fetched to imagine that the HK stands for Hannah Kentridge, and that she loves her Daddy? I will copy this onto my own page. --Adam Brink (talk) 09:24, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi
If you want to, please take a look on the AfD for 2011 failed Gothenburg terrorist attack. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:30, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

RE: UARS edit
...including the assessment of expected components to survive reentry. Thanks! Couldn't figure out how to write prose that would not being excessively verbose or potentially alarming to the lesser informed readers. Excellent work!Wzrd1 (talk) 03:13, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad it was helpful.Michaelmas1957 (talk) 09:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

The rapture page.
I added some stuff to the rapture page under "Post tribulation". Was hoping you could fix that up for me, as I didn't know how to properly cite scriptures. The information I put can be verified.

71.91.104.255 (talk) 20:41, 15 October 2011 (UTC)TheIsraelite777


 * Nevermind, I figured it out. HolyandClean (talk) 21:41, 15 October 2011 (UTC)HolyandClean


 * I appreciate your help. Someone tried to remove it earlier, for whatever reason, idk. HolyandClean (talk) 23:36, 15 October 2011 (UTC)HolyandClean

Portal:Current events/2011 October 17
You're quite quick at editing the current events portal (this and this, among others), good job and keep up the good work. . --   Luke      (Talk)   02:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, just trying to keep the news stories neat for readers. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 02:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

List of Indian states by GDP
Hi, Here is the source: http://pib.nic.in/newsite/AdvSearch.aspx (search term : per capita income) The calculations for percentage growth are manual. Other references which source information from this main article are: 1. http://www.onemint.com/2011/08/10/india-per-capita-income-2010-by-state/ 2. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Mayawati-bursts-Narendra-Modis-economic-growth-myth/articleshow/10446867.cms (This is just a political take on the figures so should not be used as a reference) I also need to add this chart (http://www.onemint.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/India-Per-Capita-Income-by-State-2010.jpg) but I am a bit confused over how exactly to do so and whether it is permissible. Thanks for the edits. Piyushtariyal (talk) 20:22, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the source, I'll add it to the article right away. I don't know much about uploading charts - see if you can find an administrator for help with that.Michaelmas1957 (talk) 20:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Giles Fraser resignation
Thanks for correcting my blooper and moving it to the right section. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 22:42, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, thanks for adding the news story and source. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 22:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi
I noticed you made some improvements to my edit on the Chinese space station article, I fixed a redlink for you, and removed the word 'modules' in relation to Salyuts, hope you don't mind there. The rest I'll just leave as is, though i think you should know that other editors would probably change your work, the phrase 'the current' ISS is something they don't seem to like in an encyclopedia, like, if you think of it the way a book is written, the author doesn't use phrases like 'current' to describe a time in history, that's the thing they go for. The last thing is the simple explanations, the second generation vs the first generation, people probably won't get why that makes a distinction or why a second port makes such a difference. It's because they'd think well, why can't the ship for the first crew leave and the second crew arrive and so forth, but don't understand that if a ship does un-dock the port may be fouled and unuseable, it's happened before, and so the crew would die when food and air ran out in the station, they always have to leave in the ship they arrived in, which cannot be undocked until they are ready to leave. anyhow, I don't mind how you write it, I just thought these points might be useful. The rest is a big improvement I must say. Penyulap  talk 17:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, if what I wrote isn't factual or obscures the information, feel free to change it. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 22:42, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Argh ! I'll have to discard all my cleanup and changes, there was an edit conflict and it would have been way too hard to incorporate everything. I see you do smaller edits, lately i sometimes do a lot of them all at once, oh well. Good luck ! I'll help out later. You seem pretty interested in Tiangong, I think it's fantastic, especially the videos of the launch with music, have you seen those on youtube? Oh and if you see Dr Jones, the australian commentator, kill his ref it's nowhere near accurate. Penyulap   talk 00:57, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the edit conflict (I mostly switched to doing smaller edits because of those, truth be told). I'm taking a break from editing the Tiangong articles for a bit, so add your info in now if you like. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 01:01, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Argh! it's happening again ! I think I'll go find something away from the computer to do. Cooking or something. But you're ok to work with. Just have to be careful that we don't poke each other with the scissors is all. Penyulap   talk 03:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Alexis Jenni
Your edits and additions are excellent (and needed). Thank you. I recently wrote another article, currently nominated for the DYK page, if you want to take a look it's Ralph Edwards (homesteader). Green Cardamom (talk) 21:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad to be of help. I'll give your new article a look when I can. Thanks. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 21:55, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Fantastic thanks! Green Cardamom (talk) 15:13, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you for your help in Daxin Station
Thank you for your help! My English is very poor (en-0), so there may be some grammatical mistakes in my page (I created many pages of Shenzhen Metro). Please help me to correct them if you are free, and thank you for your help! -- Snivy Kon  02:07, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad I could help. I'll look into fixing up the other Shenzhen Metro pages at some point. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 21:11, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

An Invite to join WikiProject Canada
Moxy (talk) 06:10, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, thanks for the invite. Although my main interest is just cleaning up the main Canada article (which is good but still rough around the edges), rather than general Canada-related articles. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 06:12, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I was hoping you could take your great copy editing skills over to the other 2 overview articles --> Canadians a GA article and History of Canada. Only if you like and if you have time my new friend.Moxy (talk) 06:16, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Canada
Hello, I'd like to let you know that I have redacted a sentence in the Canada article, and express a willingness to discuss in depth that carefully considered edit with you. I have tremendous difficulty with the claim for Canada that as a nation it ranks third in space science publications (in a table published in the UK that says that Scotland is number one...) Academically, this is an unjustified application of a very wobbly ratio, from a proprietary database. I object to terming the ratio from the unauthored table a "global survey." I object also that the ratio does NOT reflect NATIONAL ranking, but may, at most reflect AVERAGE quality of PAPERS. (Speculatively, this AVERAGE may have much more to do with a variety of EDITORIAL policies of journals Canadians publish in than anything more meaningful.) Do you have a proper source from an authored article that weighs the ratio, and discusses it at an informatics level, rather than merely presenting it as if the ratio was a respected and validated metric. Sadly, I judge that the "claim" cannot stand, unless something more than this inadequate citation can prop up the wikipedia sentence - do you have a proper source per WP guidelines? The concern has been expansively articulated in the Discussion page. I should be very pleased to carefully consider your reasoning if you would like to address this concern; perhaps you see it differently, but perhaps it's time for this assertion to end its encyclopedic intrusion. FeatherPluma (talk) 02:08, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

77.98.134.171 Reply
Not a problem Michael. Just trying my best since im a nooby at this sort of thing :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.134.171 (talk) 22:00, 17 December 2011 (UTC)