User talk:Michaelparks

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Repost of Bert Oliva
A tag has been placed on requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia, because it appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion process. If you can indicate how it is different from the previously posted material, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: which appears inside of the speedy deletion  tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the article's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. If you believe the original discussion was unjustified, please contact the administrator who deleted the page or use deletion review instead of continuing to recreate the page. Thank you.

If you want to use the work of other editors as a basis for your class project, I can also move the text into your user space for you to work on. Let me know if you'd like me to do this. —C.Fred (talk) 14:52, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes please! That would be very helpful. also who can help me with this article? Im fine with redoing what other people have put in... but who can guide me through the process so i can finish it off correctly?


 * Thanks!
 * --Michaelparks (talk) 16:26, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * There's some guidance links in the Userspace draft box at the top. Also, check out WP:Your first article. —C.Fred (talk) 18:09, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * And the article is restored at User:Michaelparks/Bert Oliva. —C.Fred (talk) 18:10, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

So on this bert olive page that I'm working on,can anyone see it? like am i by myself with creating it or can wikipedia people or regular people see if i asked a question in the discussion page? --Michaelparks (talk) 20:32, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Newspaper References behind a firewall.
It is *very* acceptable to reference articles to news articles which were once published but are now behind a firewall. see Template:Cite news. This is really no different for Wikipedia than citing something in a newspaper that hasn't been put up on the web yet that you found at your local library in the Microfiche. If you've got anything like that please use it. I'm still not convinced that this guy is famous enough, but actually having references is a step in the right direction.Naraht (talk) 16:25, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Bert oliva
Hey man, I haven't heard from you recently, but when you get a chance, take a look at the Bert Oliva page and let me know what you think. In my experience, a page written as it is now will last and can survive a deletion discussion. If you have met the speaker and have digital photos, please feel free to upload them to enhance the article. I think the page is ready to be re-instated to the general encyclopedia now, so go ahead and give it a second launch.

- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 18:07, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

suggestions
I see it has been deleted, but i can't find the version that you placed. I was pretty confident in the changes I made, and I believe it passes the notability test. (Again, my idea of notability differs from another person. Some people believe every city street and firehouse can get its own wikipedia page; others will argue that a landlord or part-time professor should get a page. It's a tough argument to make about whether a person is notable or not, so I can't really tell. I know that he's a motivational speaker with a TV show and a following in the Latino community, but then again, he may not be notable for being the Spanish Tony Robbins; people on wikipedia will argue that he is being marketed on this site without significant sources to support that idea.)

Either way, the deletion discussion I saw mentioned a lot of concerns about promotion. Keep all of his informational products and seminars off the page. I have to warn you because they reek of marketing. I also want to let you know that Fastily is quick to pull the trigger but very poor in communicating or solving problems, so be very cautious with him. I personally don't have the desire to fight with him again (all he does it delete things from wikipedia, he's a destroyer, not a creator). I can refer you to a person who is better at talking through deletion discussions than I am. Speak with User:DGG. He's good and he'll hear you out.-- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 17:53, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Perfect thank you! I will definitely reach out to him. Also I'm not sure if you can help me with this though; Fastily is on a month long break however it does say on his alk page this: Admins, in my absence, you do not need to ask for my permission or input to reverse one of my administrative actions. With that said is it possible for you to reverse the deletion process? Thanks for the time and help, it is very much appreciated! --Michaelparks (talk) 00:56, 30 October 2011 (UTC)