User talk:Michaelstoll

March 2012
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Proposed deletion of Stefan Pichler


The article Stefan Pichler has been proposed for deletion because, under Wikipedia policy, all newly created biographies of living persons must have at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. Osarius     Talk 13:14, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Copyright problem: Stefan Pichler
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Stefan Pichler, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to contain material copied from http://www.emirates247.com/eb247/opinion/q-a/we-have-a-good-opportunity-to-grow-in-the-regional-market-2009-11-30-1.21448,, and therefore to constitute a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policies. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators are liable to be blocked from editing.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under license allowed by Wikipedia, then you should do one of the following:


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 * If you own the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License and GNU Free Documentation License, and note that you have done so on Talk:Stefan Pichler. See Donating copyrighted materials for instructions.

It may also be necessary for the text be modified to have an encyclopedic tone and to follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at [ this temporary page]. Leave a note at Talk:Stefan Pichler saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! joe deckertalk to me 18:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Avoiding copyright problems
Hello, and welcome. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.


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 * Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Close paraphrasing. (There is a college level introduction to paraphrase, with examples, hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue.) Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
 * Our primary policy on using copyrighted content is Copyrights. You may also want to review Copy-paste.
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I'm afraid that changing the source you reference in an article does not eliminate the problem. It seems that this article was created by taking content from other sources, such as, which matches the article almost entirely. As we cannot use previously published text in this way, the article has had to be deleted.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to visit me at my talk page. Thank you. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:37, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Stefan Pichler


A tag has been placed on Stefan Pichler requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website but have permission from that owner, see Requesting copyright permission. You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Scopecreep (talk) 12:28, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Removing Speedy at Stefan Pichler
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Speedy deletion nomination of Stefan Pichler


A tag has been placed on Stefan Pichler requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website but have permission from that owner, see Requesting copyright permission. You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Scopecreep (talk) 09:12, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

A warning - and a lifeline
If you continue to add text to Wikipedia that is copyright elsewhere, you may be blocked from editing. Please see WP:COPYVIO and read the post above from Moonriddengirl, who is one of our top copyright experts. (Please also read WP:BIO and our policy on reliable independent sources WP:RS. Any article, but especially a biography, should be referenced in accordance with WP:RS.) I've just seen your question at the help desk, and you were clearly told there what the problem was. I think there is enough notability in your subject, but you should write the article afresh and keep very well away form the previous versions. If you do, please put it at User:Michaelstoll/DRAFT (just click that) and put THIS IS A DRAFT at the top with three ' at the front and back. (That makes it bold.) Then ask for advice. Avoid wording like "Stefan Pichler combines both extensive airline experience", "extensive knowledge", or "With his international business career and background he is certainly one of the very few global aviation and leisure experts and leaders" - those look promotional. Please see WP:NPOV (neutral point of view). In referencing, statements like the "former internationally ranked marathon runner" should be referenced or you'll get 'citation needed' tags appearing. Note that for showing notability the independence of the source cited from the subject is important. Also, blogs,, forums, personal and company sites, and wikis (including Wikipedia) cannot show notability. Things like Jazeera Airways that have articles on Wikipedia can be linked with two [ at the front and two ] at the end - only do this the first time they are mentioned. Moonriddengirl is probably the best to ask for an opinion on the text and its originality, but most editors and admins are willing to give help and advice. Peridon (talk) 11:13, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * BTW when on talk pages, please sign with four ~ things. That puts your sig on and a datestamp. Peridon (talk) 11:14, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

April 2012
Your addition to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Stefan Pichler has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Scopecreep (talk) 16:57, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Final warning
OK, we've tried being polite. But... Is there something about "Do not post copyright text into Wikipedia" that isn't clear? If you really don't understand - and copyright is a tricky business - then please tell us. Don't post the same thing again. If I see it, I'll protect the page from creation and very seriously consider blocking you. Wikipedia isn't as easy to get into as some people think. There are complications that need explaining. But unless you talk to us, we can't help you. You may consider this post to be rude. If you do, we've got something in common. This is a last ditch attempt to get through to you. I have no worries about blocking spammers, but I don't want to do it to someone who is at least trying to add real content. But if you don't do the right thing, we've no option. Over to you. Talk here, or on my page, or ask User:Moonriddengirl (who will be a lot more polite than this...). Pick another admin if you prefer. (Moonriddengirl is a real expert, though. And nice and polite.) Peridon (talk) 17:55, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyrighted content
Hi, Michaelstoll. We're all new at one point; no need to apologize for that. :)

The primary issue that you are running into is that you are copying text that has been previously published. We can't reproduce text, such as this, without proving that we have permission to use it from the copyright holder. All text is copyrighted on publication, in accordance with the US laws that govern us.

The way to avoid the copyright issue is to submit an article on the man that describes him and his accomplishments completely in your own words. You can copy over his job titles, because those aren't copyrightable, as well as the names of companies he has worked for, but you can't copy over content like "Stefan combines both extensive airline experience with major Network, Charter and Low Cost Carriers with extensive knowledge of global markets and costumers, including working with leading global brands such as NIKE, Lufthansa, Thomas Cook and Virgin." This is copyrightable. See Copy-paste. Not only that, it does not meet our neutrality policy, which is core. It's certainly appropriate for his business partners to boast about his extensive experience and knowledge, but Wikipedia does not do that. :) We would simply document that he has worked with certain companies.

One of the other problems you will run into is in the sources you are using. There are rules to indicate what sources are "reliable"; see WP:IRS. You can't source content to other Wikipedia articles. The BBC piece seems good, but Asia Travel Tips is a reprinted press release; this seems to be as well. The kinds of sources Wikipedia prefers are newspapers, magazines and reliable industry websites that write about subjects on their own, not that reprint the words of the company itself. This helps establish that the gentleman meets notability guidelines (it seems pretty likely he would) and that information published is neutral. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm glad if I can help. :) I would recommend that you read through it carefully in comparison to that letter. If you see more than two or three words in a row in common, you probably need to rework that material - unless, as I said above, it's a job title. This will help prevent content being removed or your submission declined for copyright concerns after all. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:32, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation
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