User talk:Michaelt54/Archive 1

October 2012
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for edit-warring and disruptive editing, as you did at Pat Robertson. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Bbb23 (talk) 23:25, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey Bb23 How do i delete my account? I don't want my account to extist anymore i will no longer edit on this site.--Michaelt54 (talk) 00:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The best plan is just to abandon it and not look back. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

So I can't delete it? --Michaelt54 (talk) 00:35, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * No. But this is another approach: Courtesy vanishing Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:17, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I would like to do the Courtesy vanishing--Michaelt54 (talk) 02:26, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I also want to say i'm sorry i didn't mean to be disrutpion.Michaelt54 (talk) 02:30, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * If you're sure about vanishing, please follow the instructions provided at Courtesy vanishing. No need to feel bad about being blocked. Lots of people get blocked. Consider just waiting it out and leaving your account as it is. You may change your mind and continue editing in the future. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:35, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I e-mailed a request for Courtesy vanishingMichaelt54 (talk) 03:38, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I got a email saying i can't do the Courtesy vanishing because i'm blocked?Michaelt54 (talk) 21:45, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * So wait till your blocked has ended. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:48, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The probable reason they denied your request is to vanish you have to be in "good standing". I agree with Anna (thanks for pitching in) that you should wait until your block has expired, but I don't know if even then your request will be granted.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:55, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I would like to ask for clemency. I'm sorry and i will no longer edit war(disrupt). I want the block removed.Michaelt54 (talk) 03:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to follow the instructions in the block notice to request an unblock.--Bbb23 (talk) 03:50, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

How long do i have to wait for a decision? I will no longer disrupt by reverting 3 times.--Michaelt54 (talk) 07:14, 16 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Michael, could you clarify please? Are you requesting an unblock in order to submit a request to vanish, or in order to continue editing? Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 09:51, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I changed my mind i think i will keep editingMichaelt54 (talk) 16:36, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * What do you intend to work on, Michael? Before the block, you mostly focused on categories, and a lot of editors disagreed with the way you categorized articles, which is pretty much what got you in trouble. How are you going to avoid that if you're unblocked?--Bbb23 (talk) 23:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I will probably stop editing for awhile because i'm going to be busy with school and work, but i think i will stay away from categories for awhile. I don't want anymore problems I will no longer revert 3 times.Michaelt54 (talk) 23:48, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, Michael, I'm going to give it a go and unblock you with the understanding that (1) you will not add or remove categories from articles, (2) you will not edit- war, and (3) you will listen and collaborate with other editors in a civil manner. By the way, I think you may find these conditions will reduce your stress level and give you a more positive experience here. I hope so.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:08, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I'm sorry, I didn't know that was against the rules.Michaelt54 (talk) 00:53, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Michael, stop removing material from noticeboards, user talk pages, and user talk page archives that relate to you. You have no right to do that. I don't want to have to reblock you, but I will if you continue.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:37, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't want that material on there anymore though I want a clean start.Michaelt54 (talk) 00:58, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Michael, this is tiresome. You wanted to vanish. You didn't want to vanish. Now you appear to want to vanish. You're not entitled to a "clean start". You made some mistakes. Hopefully, you've learned from them and will edit constructively. But just because you don't want "that material on there anymore" doesn't mean you can remove it. If you want to make another request to vanish, go ahead, but you can't remove the material. In addition, even if you were allowed to vanish (unlikely, in my view), I don't believe the material you are removing would go away.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:04, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thats fine.Michaelt54 (talk) 01:07, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

An option
Hi Michael. If you wish to continue editing, you are welcome to do so. If you would like to go I can archive this page and add a "Retired" notice. That means that I can move all the content on this page to a subpage. The information can still be found if one looks, but this page will be blanked. I can also add the "Retired" notice to your userpage too. You will still have the ability to edit, but these pages will be cleared. Also, posts that you've made to other talk pages will also eventually be archived out of sight. Please advise. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:33, 17 October 2012 (UTC

I don't mean to be a pain in the butt. I think i want to go now.Michaelt54 (talk) 01:39, 17 October 2012 (UTC) Thank you for your help even though I have caused some trouble.Michaelt54 (talk) 01:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggest you think long and hard and make up your mind what you want, Michael, because I don't think you really know. I came within a millimeter of reblocking you, not just because of the disruption you caused on talk pages and noticeboards, but because your only article edit since being unblocked has been to add a category to the Nicolas Cage article, which flagrantly violates your unblock agreement. How can I, or any other admin, accept that you're acting in good faith when you do something like that? And you can't keep disrupting the project and apologizing. At some point, the disruption is too much, and the apologies are hollow. Maybe there are reasons why you fail to grasp what peope are telling you, but Wikipedia is not a venue for you to work out your difficulties. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I believe it's necessary.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:50, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Please Michael be clear and push this one way or the other. No need for sorrys. Just tell us your intentions and what you want to happen. Please. Anna Frodesiak (talk)

I was just going to mention the Nicolas Cage article to you. I was just reading it and I saw it didn't have the golden globe award he won. I want to go now. I promise I will no longer add categories and I mean it. I should have said something before adding the golden globe award.Michaelt54 (talk) 02:01, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * By all means, take a break from Wikipedia, clear your head, and then think about what you want. There's no hurry. Wikipedia will still be here.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Indeed. Michael, you can always drop me a line if you need me. As long as you observe the conditions of the unblock then you are free to do as you wish. And don't be freaked out by what happened. It's not a big deal. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:09, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

So to be clear, I want to do the option you told me about Anna. Best Wishes to you to and thank you.--Michaelt54 (talk) 02:14, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Very well. Doing it now. Best of luck in all your future endeavors.


 * Bbb23: I will check contribs from time to time and will report to you any prohibited edits. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:22, 17 October 2012 (UTC)