User talk:MichellePaigeAbby

MichellePaigeAbby (talk) 15:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Netstreit Corporation (July 7)
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Theroadislong (talk) 20:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Netstreit Corporation (July 20)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Timtrent was:

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Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 19:48, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

July 2021
Hello MichellePaigeAbby. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:MichellePaigeAbby. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 19:49, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Blocked as a sockpuppet
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts&#32;as a sockpuppet of User:Netstreit Michelle&#32;per the evidence presented at Sockpuppet investigations/Netstreit Michelle. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:10, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Appeal a Block
I dont think you understand what I was intending. I am a first-time Wiki page creator and created the Netstreit draft after reviewing the Realty Income Wiki page. I am not accusing them of anything, but simply modeled the Netstreit draft using theirs as a guide. I have reviewed the proposed violations and will address each one separately: WP:SOCK I am first-time Wiki creator and initially requested help from another individual to get started. That individual is no longer involved and I will be the only one making edits moving forward. WP:EVADE I only noticed recently that I am a blocked editor and should not have made any edits until officially unblocked. This will not happen again. WP:COI I am trying to get an initial page set up for my company NETSTREIT. It is a public company and listed on the NYSE. I recognize that the site is public and anyone can make edits. I am simply trying to get a simple page launched. WP:PAID I have not been paid to create NETSTREIT's Wiki page and am not sure where this accusation stems from. WP:PROMO The initial feedback received was that the page was too promotional. I edited the copy (prior to seeing the WP: EVADE or block) using only simple facts. I welcome your thoughts as to how to make the revisions adhere to the WP policies. MichellePaigeAbby (talk) 18:49, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You say you do not count as a paid editor. Is this statement truthful or is this statement truthful? They are entirely contradictory. Nor do you show any understanding of WP:COI. Please reread that policy. --Yamla (talk) 18:58, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Yamla, you are correct, those two statements are in conflict. As I mentioned above related to WP:SOCK, I did have someone help get me started with the page (in April) who was paid by my company. That individual is no longer involved and I have been the only one making edits since then. I did re-read the WP:COI, and as an employee recognize that I might have a COI. Should I update the "User Page" to reflect that I am an employee? I am very hopeful that you might offer suggestions to get a simple page published for this public company. Thank you very much in advance for your help. MichellePaigeAbby (talk) 21:57, 22 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The first sentence of WP:COI says, "Conflict of interest (COI) editing involves contributing to Wikipedia about [...] employers" So, it's not that you "might have a COI".  You DO have a COI.  Disclosing the nature of that relationship on your user page is a start.  There's no promise it's sufficient to get you unblocked, but it's certainly a necessary first step. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:12, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

RoySmith As stated above, WP:COI I am trying to get an initial page set up for my company NETSTREIT. It is a public company and listed on the NYSE. I recognize that the site is public and anyone can make edits. I am simply trying to get a simple page launched. As I also mentioned above related to WP:SOCK, I did have someone help get me started with the page (in April) who was paid by my company. That individual is no longer involved and I have been the only one making edits since then. I tried editing the User Page to disclose that I am an employee and have a COI, but i am unable to make edits because i am blocked. Is this something that you can help me with?MichellePaigeAbby (talk) 15:25, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia doesn't have "pages" about companies, it has articles. Wikipedia has essentially no interest in anything the company has to say about themselves. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with them have chosen to publish about them. The article would be limited to a summary of what such independent sources have said about them. Notability is judged by looking at the depth of coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources. Theroadislong (talk) 15:32, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Forgive my incorrect terminology, as clearly Wikipedia is composed of numerous articles. I am trying to address the block placed on my account so I can edit the article and ensure it only includes independent souces. Please let me know if there are any outstanding issues which need to be addressed. Thank you.MichellePaigeAbby (talk) 19:38, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I want to be clear. You will not be unblocked to write about subject areas for which you have a conflict of interest. If this is your goal, this is the end of the line. If instead you wish to write about subject areas for which you have no conflict of interest, tell us what you plan to write about instead and convince us you now understand WP:COI, as you clearly did not understand this policy earlier. --Yamla (talk) 10:15, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @RoySmith @Yamla As the editor who initiated Sockpuppet investigations/Netstreit Michelle I have a firm belief that this editor is WP:NOTHERE My good faith existed at the start of this unblock request, but was diluted with every response and no longer exists.  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 19:59, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

I am here and am acting in good faith, but am getting mixed responses from editors. I have tried to respond to each allegation in good faith. I have tried to outline the initial sockpuppet allegation as my company did initially engage firm to help draft the initial Wiki article in April 2021. The drafted article had numerous third party references, but was originally declined due to WP:PROMO. After trying to remove the promotional areas, i was blocked. As I mentioned above related to WP:SOCK, I did have someone help get me started with the page (in April) who was paid by my company. That individual is no longer involved and I have been the only one making edits since then. I did re-read the WP:COI, and as an employee recognize that I have a COI. It was suggested that I change update my COI relationship, but I am unable to make edits while blocked. 95.214.78.37 (talk) 16:41, 28 July 2021 (UTC)MichellePaigeAbby (talk) 15:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Netstreit Corporation


Hello, MichellePaigeAbby. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Netstreit Corporation".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! CptViraj (talk) 16:08, 25 July 2022 (UTC)