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Thanks! And thanks for fixing me syntax (Mickday100 (talk) 21:13, 9 August 2010 (UTC))

Llanishen Reservoir
I wondered if you have ever seen the reservoirs and surrounding area? Matt Lewis (talk) 21:24, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Matt. I have seen the reservoir - I just thought deliberate damage implied some action, like ripping up stone or something.

On the Hyder takeover point. I deleted it because I thought it wasn't relevant to the reservoir - the sale of Welsh Water to Glas is how WPD came to own it (it was a Welsh Water asset in the first place). Ithought about leaving the takeover in - and will happily put something in - but it seemed very long winded to say something ~(better put than this) - than "WPD bought Hyder, Wales' biggest company - with a recommended offer after a hostile takeover. Hyder owned a number of businesses including Welsh Water and Infralec, the South ~Wales electric distribution company.  Welsh Water was sold to Glas and as part of this transaction WPD acquired the reservoir" ... my point is that the article is about the reservoir. The sale to Glas is not extra detail - but as the source shows the property transfer was integral to the sale.

So, in short - I'll put all the guff about Hyder back in (with the right sources, rather than local press reports), but the Glas stuff is how WPD came to acquire it and is therefore a lot more than "extra detail". But won't it be a bit long? (Mickday100 (talk) 22:28, 10 August 2010 (UTC))


 * Believe me, PPL's (As WPD) takover of Hyder is relevent, especially given the Welsh Assembly's concerns over it. Hyder was a huge company for Wales. WPD got Welsh Water as it was part of Hyder - they then sold Welsh Water to Glas Cymru with a buy-back on the Welsh Water owned Llanishen reservoir if it became profitable to them. I'm only saying that mentionin Glas Cymru is "extra detail" in terms of Hyder being the 'main detail'! You took the Hyder detail out and over-simplified the issue of WPD aquiring the reservoir to the point of it being misleading I felt: the article clearly needs to have the whole process spelled out in a sentence or two.


 * Regarding the damage to Llanishen reservoir, as a matter of a fact, some parts of the stone work have been ripped up, the janitors house burnt down (people are very suspicious round here I'm afraid) and various parts of the reservoir have fallen into disrepair (which would have not been the case when sailing and angling was allowed). They know people still walk around it (despite surveillance), but little effort is made to keep it intact. I won't be editing now unless I have the sources and appropriate text at hand (I got tired of 'wiki tennis' a long time ago), but I'm sure we'll sort it out in the end as it is a relatively finite (though not entirely uncomplicated) subject.


 * You might find much of what I have to put in very interesting. If it is fully drained then no-one wins: It slowly refils over 8 years, and the housing development will never happen in a million years I'm telling you now. 500 cars onto Cyncoed crossroads? Cyncoed is old wealth and they have never allowed any kind of evening takeaway/resto even near it (outside of the lowlands to its east), let alone 300 new houses! And have you seen Llanishen village and Fidlas Road regarding the Lisvane Road route (where people have to turn back into Cardiff proper)??! It's saturated with traffic already because of the constantly developing buisiness estate on the newly-freed MOD land (acres and acres of it) - and there are other housing developments on green land in the offing too, one right next door to Llanishen res! So why would anyone build on the res - it's just insane. The part of Nant Fawr where WPD want to build the south-facing (and town-facing) feeder road (for the majority of 300 expensive houses, most with 2 or 3 cars) is a very heavily-used walking area - it's even been on a TV nature programme for being so rare in such a central urban area. The new wide road would run through it, then fully bisect it where that roofed Nant Fawr information stand is!


 * The long and short is that it is that the area is an uncommonly good asset to Cardiff and we can never get it back if it goes. The token miniature 'wildlife area' is just a joke I'm afraid - it's just too small and built around, and area couldn't handle the extra traffic even if it actually got any. Fill the area with 600 more cars and the vehicle and pedestrian traffic (another current problem) will become impossible, the green areas will be ruined by roads and houses, and the rungs will fall down a vital property ladder that effects three of Cardiff's major areas; Lisvane (new wealth), Cyncoed (old wealth) and Llanishen (mixed wealth). It just won't happen. And have you ever told a wild animal where to go? They kind of do what they want, and they tend not to settle around thousands of cars and houses. There is a precarious balance between man and beast here already - and that fact that it works as well as it does is what makes the area so special.


 * It's worth noting too that Cardiff as a city didn't vote for the Welsh Assembly. The Assembly would simply never live it down in Cardiff if they allowed all this to happen, and for an American utility to get the upper hand on them too. And a corruption scandle (if one was ever uncovered) would be a disaster for a semi-devolved government that still has to fight for credibility on occasion. It's just not going to happen. The whole fenced reservoir experience (nearly 10 years now) is like one of those grinding wars of attrition where people have to defend against an enemy that can do a lot of damage but can never realistically win. But still you have to fight the tedious battles. Only the lawyers will make money. Matt Lewis (talk) 00:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)