User talk:Mickusher

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August 2017
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to List of zombie films, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:30, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Please stop blanking content simply because you disagree with the conclusions found in the source. This is original research and is forbidden on Wikipedia. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:31, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not really interested in debating what counts as a zombie film, either on Wikipedia or via email. I also don't care what your definition of zombie film is.  Wikipedia is built from reliable sources, not personal opinion.  Peter Dendle book is a reliable source; your opinion on what counts as a zombie film isn't. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:13, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Splinter is an incorrect entry in The List of Zombie Films
I'm new to editing things on Wikipedia, (or doing anything other than reading articles for that matter), so I apologise in advance for my ignorance in using it.

I deleted the film Splinter in the List of Zombie Films because the list is prefaced by a paragraph detailing what the page considers a "zombie film" to be. Based on those guidelines, Splinter is not a zombie film.

NinjaRobotPirate put the entry back to how it was and told me to stop blanking content. I detailed why the entry was wrong, and he replied he wasn't interested in debating what counted as a zombie film, and that Peter Dendle was a reliable source and I wasn't. I did send a further email quoting the film's director Toby Wilkins, (see further below), but got no reply. So I would like to discuss the edit with someone who is interested in debating what counts as a zombie film.

The Plot (with reguard to the things being referred to as "zombies") A porcupine-like animal infects a gas station attendant via the animal's spikes, (splinters). The gas station attendant, (who also develops these splinters), begs a girl to kill him. After following the girl out onto the petrol station forecourt, the attendant is shot dead by the girl's boyfriend. The girl becomes infected by the garage attendant's splinters. Parts of the girl's body break off (fingers, hands, arms), and are able to operate as autonamous beings controlled by splinters. The girl then rips a police woman in two before merging with her into a freakish hybrid of the two womenn which ends up being destroyed by fire.

The plot on the Wikipedia page is more detailed, though makes no mention of zombies. Nor are zombies mentioned on Rotten Tomatoes info, IMDB, or the film's official website. On the film's website, the trailer has a Vimeo link to the film's Director, Toby Wilkins, so I put my "theory" to him: "... reminded me of John Carpenter's 'The Thing', though there was elements of 'from Beyond' and 'Invasion of the Bodysnatchers'. I've got a question for you. I think the film runs along the lines of the films I mention above and it is the Splinters that control the hosts and the host are not the things that are "hunting thier prey" but in fact the Splinters. But there's people who say this is a zombie film. I look at zombie films and think of Romero type zombies, Evil Dead Posessed zombies, or 28 Days Later "rage" zombies etc. The beings in your film don't seem like zombies to me. So my question is, is this a zombie film, or would you say it was something else?"

He replied: "You are correct! The hosts of the Splinter entity are nothing more than a source of nutrients and a source of a skeletal structure. It is irrelevant to the Splinter intity if the host is alive or dead, although the victim will certainly wish they were."

I don't want to decry Peter Dendle's 'Zombie Movie Encylopedia' it is an excellent book, but just because the source is a published work, does not mean it is 100% accurate or reliable source. I'm sure, like me, he's watched hundreds of zombie films, read countless books, comics and graphic novels on the subject as well as reading and watching material on the directors, writers and actors involved in those films...I didn't publish a book on the subject though. No matter how much "research" someone does on the subject, there is no definitive answer, the definition of a zombie is a matter of opinion.

When you have the film Director's definition though, surely you have to go with that?

Mickusher (talk) 04:40, 23 August 2017 (UTC)Mickusher
 * You should post this to Talk:List of zombie films. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:24, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for you help NinjaRobotPirate, apologies for deleting the entry, I will use the talk page to suggest amendments to the page in future. Mickusher (talk) 11:16, 23 August 2017 (UTC)Mickusher