User talk:Microinjection

Changing Azarbaijan to Azerbaijan
Salam, as we talk about it in Tabriz talk page , that is neither logical to translate all of a proper name to English (West Azerbaijan) nor a part of it (West Azarbaijan). But overall, that is routine to chose the dominant name in other articles in relevant pages .I mean perhaps the "Azarbaijan-e Gharbi" and "Azarbaijan-e Sharghi" are the best alternatives , without translation of any part to English , but due to the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names), The "West and East Azarbaijan" are the Widely accepted names, and if we want to change it in articles , at least we have to change all the pages and all the templates and all the redirects that use that ( I mean Azarbaijan-e Gharbi & Sharghi). Until reaching a consensus, the best thing possible is to use the current dominant name : West Azarbaijan, East Azarbaijan.

Please note the following Google Tests : --Alborz Fallah (talk) 10:38, 10 September 2009 (UTC) Do you think we need a third party opinion?--Alborz Fallah (talk) 05:19, 13 September 2009 (UTC) About your point of language in that region, I think that is not relevant because the administrative divisions are not a local entity and it would be impossible to choose the name in local language :Isn't that would be ridiculous to use the Spanish names of southern USA states in English Wikipedia?--Alborz Fallah (talk) 19:09, 13 September 2009 (UTC) I think if it was so clear then there would be no debate : it is not clear ! The real thing that matters is not the article itself but answering all questions that there is, and answering every person with a question is more important than compromising about a mere word by two person (You and Me).Say I will accept the outcome ; then what would be the answer of other questioners? --Alborz Fallah (talk) 18:11, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) 40,500 for "West Azarbaijan".
 * 35,400 for "West Azerbaijan".
 * 1) 45,700 for "East Azarbaijan".
 * 34,200 for "East Azerbaijan".
 * Thank you for your response.Comparison of Azerbaijan versus Azarbaijan in Google test is misleading, because the whole of the "West Azarbaijan" or "East Azarbaijan" is one proper name .By disintegrating the name to it's components , and examining every part apart , the result will have pitfalls.One of the biases to be aware of in Google testing is using a combined name without "double quote" marks.I think in the articles that points to the West and East provinces ,we may use Azarbaijan and in the articles that talks about the whole region , north and south of Aras river , we may use the Azerbaijan . --Alborz Fallah (talk) 17:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * A verb and its adjective in Persian, and not in English . A proper name in English . Although the verb-adjective in Persian , is now a proper name :As East Azarbaijan is not the eastern part of Iranian Azarbaijan , and that's the central part indeed ( Ardabil is the Eastern part !) --Alborz Fallah (talk) 19:03, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * If we are going to translate the structure of every proper name, then why don't you translate the proper name Azerbaijan itself ? That means "(the land )protected by the (Holy) Fire" . Then the proper name "Azarbaijan e Sharqhi" would be best used in the articles as "East of the land protected by fire " !!!
 * The similarity with the East Germany can only be assessed via examining the popularity in the net(Google Testing).The element that makes a difference between Belarus (not translating ) and East Germany (translating ) is familiarity in the ordinary people (Test) . In this case, theoretically a province of Iran is by far more unknown than a western European country and the examination supports that (Google Test).So I think it is better to write West and East Azarbaijan for the provinces, and Azerbaijan for the region . That will also prevent confusion in understanding west parts of the republic as West Azerbaijan.
 * You said "So when you are saying for someone Azerbaijan he would think that you are talking of Azerbaijan republic not about this two Iranian states." If I get it right, you mean using Azerbaijan for the whole region also has some degrees of confusion.That's right and for avoiding such a confusion, the titles of Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan (Iran) are different. But anyway , that does not supports using the non-dominant English word (East Azerbaijan) instead of dominant English word (East Azarbaijan).--Alborz Fallah (talk) 20:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I was talking about Azarbaijan e Sharghi, and not East Azerbaijan . Third party opinion is a good idea , but please keep in touch (in talk page of this article) for representing your point of views .I asked for a third opinion .Thank you very much.Sagh Olasan --Alborz Fallah (talk) 17:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You said :"For right now according to whole of the proofs and opinions I think that it is very clear that which opinion is the correct one."
 * My personal desire under the Wikipedian roles .And my decision is not only for my desires, as you may know I'm the single person of Persian language transwiki project for geographical names , and almost every geographical template(about Iranian provinces) is created by me , then it is not mere personal desire !--Alborz Fallah (talk) 18:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Everyone ,with every name, may have desires (hidden or non-hidden)! But the important thing is to follow the roles and norms.--Alborz Fallah (talk) 19:05, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, Google Book Search has a pattern of coverage that is in closer accord with traditional encyclopedia content than the Web, taken as a whole, is; if it has systemic bias, it is a very different systemic bias from Google Web searches. But anyway, I think the result of survey is going tobe decisive . I mean if the majority of English language persons consider analogy between the country's name (Azerbaijan) and the province important , then perhaps the Azerbaijan is more correct .--Alborz Fallah (talk) 17:57, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The survey didn't have many participants, but I accept the opinion of "Alchemist Jack" as the Neutral Opinion.I can't represent the other participant's opinions (Xashaiar and Alefbe) , and if you are going to change the name in other articles , I think it's better to talk to them first .--Alborz Fallah (talk) 07:57, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Also my thanks for you .Keep up the good work for Tabriz article (and other topics).--Alborz Fallah (talk) 20:02, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

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