User talk:Middayexpress/Archive 63

Separatism
Left a reply here. Middayexpress (talk) 19:09, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Population
I removed the highly inaccurate link regarding Mogadishu's populations. The document claims to be bringing "light" on the cities "dark history" but does quite the opposite. It foolishly claims that the Geledi were actually Abgaals, goes on about this pseudo-history about some Zanji guy controlling Mogadishu, that the Italians tried to segregate the Somalis and other Arabs from the Italians despite no such thing occurring (you even stated yourself that they never passed such laws), that Somali women wore silver rings on their neck (what on earth is he talking about? Never have I heard of such a thing!), calls some clans "primitive tribes", that the Arabs in Somalia spoke Swahili, Oman controlled the city in 1693, etc.

But the worst of all is this: Mogadishu has only recently been predominately Somali (after 1900's) even though was founded by Somalis. Prior to that all it's inhabitance was mostly Persians, Arabs, and Indians. He then states that one writer, a Somali name Jama, states that the city is actually much older. Jama points out that Mogadishu could have never been founded in the 9th century or after since the Arab historian Yaqub recorded the city. Instead of proving it wrong he accuses the writer of being nothing more than a "nationalist fanatic".

But wait Midday there's more Bs: "The Somalis, for example, have no maritime tradition". My god have mercy on his soul. This man should be banned from calling himself a "historian"! Where do people even get the nerve to make things stuff up and try to pass it off as history? Or are these stuff actually real? Odds are, especially after that lost bit, that's it's all a 100% fake. AcidSnow (talk) 05:22, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed; what a mess. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 21:19, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Childhood
Do you know anything on the parent of Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi? I found one book that claims his father put him under the care of a former slave but that seems highly inaccurate. AcidSnow (talk) 16:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Al-Ghazi was only 21 when he rose to prominence. He wasn't part of the Walashma Dynasty, but rather from another pedigree of nobles in the Harar area. I believe he hailed from the same lineage as Nur ibn Mujahid and the earliest Sultans of the Sultanate of Harar. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 21:19, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * He married into the family or was his wife not even part of the dynasty? I guess I can add "noble" to it when I gather some more sources. Also, Abu Bakr killed Abun Abashe in 1525 and was Sultan until after, right? AcidSnow (talk) 21:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I think so. The Aussa Sultanate was later established in 1577 by Imam Mohammed Jasa/Gasa, who was a descendant of Imam Al-Ghazi. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 21:30, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Why would he do that? Let alone make am Afar sultanate? Anyways, does "noble character" mean his family? AcidSnow (talk) 21:34, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * It means his bearing was regal. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 21:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Point in right direction
How you doing? My time is very tight and I am having less time to invest in Wikipedia and the problem is things need so much attention. Anyway, have a look at this comment that an admin made Go away, I want to take 4 minutes out of today to report it and put it on record. It is a trend with this person and their politics, and I cannot go into too much because then it will blow back on me and I will be accused of Vio WP:AGF. but I know the quality of my contributions and if someone thinks they can chase me off a page (of my ancestors) b/c my comments hit a spot then No Sir. I think I touched a nerve (as I often do) with the rubbish Revisionist Work they doing with yet another Black icon. So point me in the right direction if you can.--Inayity (talk) 12:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No prob. I'll have a look. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 16:10, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Trees and grass
How is the Tree planting doing in Somalia? Did they reach 25,000 yet? It seems that simply planting tress helps make it rain more. "in areas in Europe where there have previously been no trees can reduce the effect of climate change by cooling temperate regions", forget about 25,000 they need to plant a couple million trees in Mogadishu asap 0_0. AcidSnow (talk) 20:43, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * 25K was in the northeast, asfaik. Tree planting does, though, apparently invigorate ecosystem. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:54, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

GA reassessment
History of Somalia (1991–2006), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AHeneen (talk) 08:00, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Middayexpress (talk) 14:50, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Ethiopians in Somalia
Do you have a copy of bill from the Puntland region law that intends to limited foreign immigration? There's some how already 10,000 Ethiopians in Somalia 0_0. Most of whom are the Oromo. Will they be deported? Most originally intend to go to Yemen and other countries but seeing how deadly it has become to go and how people are stoping them from going they end up staying. They should at least expel those with diseases. AcidSnow (talk) 21:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it seems that they will soon be deported: "The local government is leading the efforts to send the Ethiopians back. New strict laws have been put in place to curb the influx of migrants". I am kind of conflicted on this issue since I want the best for these people as well. AcidSnow (talk) 22:02, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok. Middayexpress (talk) 15:24, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Cosmas
Do you have any info on Cosmas' journey to Somalia? I am aware that he visited Cape Grardafui but no city speficly. AcidSnow (talk) 19:25, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if he did. The Periplus merchant did, though; he journeyed throughout the region. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:30, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, I was hoping he would have gone a bit south (at least to Mogadishu). AcidSnow (talk) 19:34, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Cosmas may have; I'm not sure. The Periplus merchant, Batutta, etc. did. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:39, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I added Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi's visit to the Sultanate of Mogadishu. AcidSnow (talk) 19:57, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * There were the Kharijites as well a few centuries earlier. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:00, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The people from the 600's? Mogadishu was also probably an ally to the Abbasids but revolted in 805. I haven't added this as I am skeptical since it also includes Swahili states. People always throw in Somali city's when they talk about the Swahili cities. What do you think? Mogadishu and Kiliwa were also supposedly attacked by the Umayyads Caliph al-Marwan. But there's one thing wrong about that, Kiliwa was founded in the 13 century. Then again, this book in particular also claims that Warsheik and other Somali cities were Swahili lol. And that they were founded before the Somalis lol. AcidSnow (talk) 20:13, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The Omani/Swahili Sultanate of Zanzibar was established much later, and its control was ancillary to that of Geledi Sultanate. Swahili wasn't and isn't spoken in any area outside of Barawa. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Bati Del Wanbara
Left a reply here. Middayexpress (talk) 20:11, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Ḥarla
Left a reply here. Middayexpress (talk) 20:11, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Nur ibn Mujahid
Left a reply here. Middayexpress (talk) 20:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Walashma
Please check out the Walashma dynasty as well as the Harari people. AcidSnow (talk) 18:38, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No prob. Middayexpress (talk) 18:41, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, 38% of women work. AcidSnow (talk) 20:17, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Most of the women are homemakers. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:26, 8 March 2015 (UTC)