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Anaheim Mighty Ducks
Just a heads up that while its great to see someone new fixing things up. Alot of those Anaheim Mighty Ducks references you fixed up where not necessarily wrong. You are definitely right that the official name was the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, but Wikipedia doesn't always go by official names. We usually go by what is the most common name for a subject. And during the years that they were the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim they were most often referred to as the Anaheim Mighty Ducks. Just thought I would let you know before you went changing anymore pages that were not incorrect. -DJSasso (talk) 10:44, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks but sorry I don't agree. Anaheim Mighty Ducks was never the more commonly used name and it was 100% incorrect. Midnight whisper (talk) 06:20, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Even today more than 10 years later it is. One has more than 3 times the google hits. "Anaheim Mighty Ducks" 711,000 hits vs "Mighty Ducks of Anaheim" 209,000 would have been even worse back in the day. The team was almost never referred to in news reports in the "of Anaheim" version. Just like the Angels pretty much never were. Maybe inside Anaheim they might have been referred to that more often, but wikipedia is global so local gets trumped by the more common name in national press. -DJSasso (talk) 10:32, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Please take a close look at your search results for "Anaheim Mighty Ducks". This search includes fuzzy results, such as the first result for me, which matches on the phrase "Anaheim's 'Mighty Ducks'". The pages that actually do include the phrase "Anaheim Mighty Ducks" tend to be robot generated based on templates where the programmer didn't feel like making an exception for this team.
 * By the way I don't know how old you are but as a hockey fan from the 1990's, news reports most certainly did typically refer to this team as "Mighty Ducks of Anaheim".
 * Also DJSasso, please note that the Anaheim Ducks article does not contain your desired phrase "Anaheim Mighty Ducks". If you are so convinced that this typographical error is the correct nomenclature, why don't you go edit that article? Midnight whisper (talk) 18:01, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I was around back then, very rarely would you hear the official name and when you did it was often as the butt of jokes. All I was pointing out was that Wikipedia supports using the common name and not necessarily the official name. There are places where you would want to list the official name such as when you are listing the official names as on the Anaheim Ducks page. But in other pages it is not incorrect to use the common name was my point. It is also discouraged to change the redirects that aren't even visible to the reader per WP:NOTBROKEN. Whether newspapers or "robots" are using the Anaheim Mighty Ducks version mistakenly or because they can't be bothered to change the format is irrelevant. They made the mistake enough times that it was used more than the official name, and we go by what the majority of sources use. Anyways that is all I am going to say. I was just trying to save you from wasting your time. -DJSasso (talk) 10:44, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I just don't comprehend the notion that the official name is appropriate for one page on Wikipedia but a commonly used error (not more commonly used than the official name though, I don't accept that) is better for the rest. Especially considering the prose of the Anaheim Ducks page (outside of the list of official names) does not contain it either. We'll have to agree to disagree and should this continue to be a point of editing contention I will probably take the discussion to the Anaheim Ducks talk page. I appreciate that you were looking to help though and I do accept that I changed a couple redirects that could have been left as is. Thanks for pointing that out. Midnight whisper (talk) 03:22, 10 May 2019 (UTC)