User talk:Midom/archive 2005 01 29

Ethnic Prussia situation
About ethnic situation in Prussia. You give very good idea. But it needs some time, to prepare. Prussia at its beginning in 16th century was multinational society with German-speaking ruling class. Later, when Prussia became larger, German influence increased. The problem is, that quite all material about it is written from mononational positions of nations, which had their people in Prussia (Germans, Poles, Lithuanians). - But the idea itself is good. I'll try to prepare, if I find any respective material. Thank You. Linas 13:08, 2004 Jun 4 (UTC)

Lithuanian wikipedia dev.question
Hi,

I have two questions about lithuanian wikipedia: Knutux 05:15, 2004 Jun 23 (UTC) (lt:Knutux)
 * 1) Is there a way to customize sort order, so that articles in categories and other stuff will be ordered according to lithuanian alphabet, not by latin one.
 * 2) There are some english texts not MediaWiki namespace. So, is there any plans to add missing phrases to make them translatable or those texts will always be in english?


 * wikipedia is(was) moved to unicode, so local character sets do not apply. though, possibly there will be other measures, that must be decided project-wise.
 * all (at least used for rendering site) english texts will be eventually moved to mediawiki namespace. Midom 10:04, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

DateFormatter.php
Hello; ar gali paaiskinti kaip programeris ciainikui - ar imanoma lokalizuoti DateFormatter.php is Wikikodo?


 * DateFormatteriui gal ir galima papildomus formatus duoti, ta&#269;iau tai prid&#279;t&#371; tik daugiau b&#279;d&#371;. O pat&#303; dat&#371; atvaizdavim&#261; galima m&#279;ginti tweakinti LanguagesLt


 * Real-time datu reformatavimas vyksta tik DateFormatteryje. Jei LanguagesLt.php perdeklaruosiu class DateFormatter, ar MediaWiki tai supras teisingai?
 * K&#261; nori padaryti? :) Midom 09:35, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * Ka, nesimato, kad noriu ideti galimybe performatuoti datas lt.wikipedijoje ? ;)


 * Suprogramuoti performatuotoja - nefig delat', keliu valandu darbas - ypac, kai jau yra angliskas pavyzdys. Problema, kaip ta procedura implementinti. Nezinau, ne nuo kurio galo tai pradeti.


 * Sakau, gal tu su Microlinkine patirtimi ismanai daugiau, kaip ir kuri mediawiki gala galima keisti...
 * katruo atveju dabartinis netinka? Lietuviškas datos formatas kitoks? Bo maniškis LanguageLt.php dar nepaleistas ant gyvo saito.


 * Rodos, nesusisnekame.


 * LanguageLt datu formateris formatuotoja tik sistemines datas (tipo, kad puslapis kada buvo apdeitintas). Viskas su tuo gerai, taip tegu ir buna.


 * DateFormatter.php yra atsakingas uz tai, kad surastu tekste data (parasyta bet kaip - june 23, 2003 ar 2003-07-23) ja real-time performatuoja i varianta, kuri useris pasirnko savo pereferensuose, ir useriui pateikia ta varianta. paskaityk koda.


 * Sis triukas veikia tik angliskoje versijoje, lokalizavimo variantu nepastebejau. Lokalizatoriai turi tik sistemines datas.


 * Va ir galvoju, ar isvis neimanoma neangliskose lokalese ideti real-timinio datu konvertereio, ar tiesiog niekas nebande tai padaryti.
 * Dabar matau - naudoja *En kintamuosius, pam&#279;ginsiu padaryti, kad naudot&#371; Language klas&#279;s m&#279;nesi&#371; funkcij&#261;.


 * Jei teisingai suprantu, ka nori daryti - reikia perrasyti ir datu radimo funkcija (kelis PHP statementus dataformatter'yje).


 * Kad ieskotu "nnnn [m.[ pr.m.e.]] menuo [men.] [d]d [d.]" (isversk tai i PHP).


 * Kiek kalbejaus su developeriais, tai jie šit&#261; feature'&#261; kažkaip užsl&#279;p&#281; ir neduoda :) Nors šiaip turiu teis&#281; dabar jau m&#279;gint l&#303;st ir internacionalizuot t&#261; kod&#261;. Paži&#363;r&#279;siu, gal pavyks kas, daugiau dat&#371; regexp&#371; nebus? :)

[16:19:27]  also it was fundamentally en-specific [16:20:18]  I was led to believe that other languages haven't had such problems deciding on a common date format, so it's not such an important feature

lietuviskai formatai isvis bardakas...

kiek as tai matau, reiketu isgaudyti tokius variantus (nematau prasmes mokytis regexp'o, jei tu jau moki): data 1977 rugsejo 6

[1977 [m.|met*] [pr*m*e*|pr*Kr*]] rugs&#279;j*|09|9 [m.|m&#279;n*] 6|06 [d.|dien*]

ir nepamirsti dvej&#371; dalyk&#371;: jog sitoje frazeje bet kaip atsitiktinai gali buti sumetyti , pvz: ir jog metai yra optional, gali b&#363;ti tik rugs&
 * 1997 rugs&
 * 1997 m. rugs& d.
 * 1997 m. rugs&#279;jo 9
 * rugs&
 * etc. (durniu genialuma sunku ivertinti)

Isspjaunant data, reikia "apvilkti" metus ir m&#279;nesi+diena i

isspjovimo formatai, sakyciau:


 * 1977.09.06
 * 1977-09-06
 * 1977 m. rugs& d.
 * pofig (palik, kaip yra, tik uzdek  )

ka mastai? ASN 08:44, 2004 Aug 16 (UTC)


 * man asmeniškai kažkaip niekada tos dinamin&#279;s datos ir neužkliuvo, o perrašymo reikt&#371; daug, kiek matau. gal ir &#303;manoma, dabar truputuk&#261; prie kit&#371; dalyk&#371; dairaus, gal pavyks sugr&#303;žti.Midom 08:55, 2004 Aug 16 (UTC)

Gediminaiciai
I'm thinking about moving Jagiellon dynasty to Gediminaiciai, but I'm not sure about that. Do you think these should be two separate articles or one? -- Kpalion 16:10, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

CCC
Coma told me you need accomodation for CCC. I live in Berlin. Just send me a mail (jakob /@t/ nichtich.de) when you want to come and how long you want to stay. I am not yet sure if you can stay longer than 29/30 but we will manage something :-) greetings -- Nichtich 21:01, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC) (de:Benutzer:JakobVoss)

need a help
Hello. I am translating (with other japanese wikipedians) a document m:Translation_requests/WMF/Development_team/Ja: (the English version is here: m:Translation_requests/WMF/Development_team/En:) and I would like to ask your help on one thing. I need to transliterate your name into Japanese. Would you tell me how your name should be pronounced? Thanks, Tomos 00:18, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * It's in SAMPA: dQmAs mItUzAs Domas Mituzas 14:46, 2004 Dec 10 (UTC)