User talk:Midwestman1986

Midwestman1986, you are invited to the Teahouse!
Ok thanks for letting me know. Hope it’s ok that I remove this from my own talk page Idk.


 * Yep, it's perfectly ok for you to remove posts from your talk page. The exception is that you shouldn't remove parts of a discussion, but deleting an entire discussion from your own talk page is fine. --bonadea contributions talk 15:53, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Ok

January 2019
Hello, I'm Bellezzasolo. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Tom Watson (golfer) have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Please don't remove infoboxes without discussion on the Talk page &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  21:10, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

No that was a total glitch, I was adding the county and the info box disappeared when I published it. Really weird Midwestman1986 (talk) 21:18, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries, I suspected it might have been a glitch after seeing your contribution history. Probably to do with mobile visual editing. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  21:24, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Mvcg66b3r. I noticed that you recently removed content from KCTV without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 23:18, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

I specifically said “removed unsourced sentences”. I added a reference to its proper location. Most of that page is a run on sentence without 1 source on the entire thing

Why do you always misspell in article edits and edit summaries? And why the “curly quotes?” Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:33, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Yeah it was a typo in the edit summary. I’m on my phone and can’t see the entire summary when I post it.

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on KCTV; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:12, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:22, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Unblock after Sockpuppetry
{unblock1|reason= I was recently blocked around 2 days ago for sockpuppetry. I have spent the last 2 days reading Wikipedia’s policy and guidelines. I do admit that I deserved the ban. I was unaware that you were not alowed to have multiple accounts without putting them on your user page. I was not using these accounts to be manipulative or get what I wanted. I was, however using multiple accounts to edit the same page which I apologize for. I would greatly appreciate if you would review my edits on the account Midwestman1986. I truly was trying to add to Wikipedia and added well referenced information. On the accounts Kansas City 1225 that was vandalism and was well before I knew how Wikipedia worked. I just thought you could wright anything you wanted as people in public had told me. I then created the accounts midwestman1986 and historybuff1111, which I used to add referenced information to pages. I also created many other accounts which I apologize for. As far as the page listed Kansas City metropolitan area and Kansas City international airport I truly was trying to make it completely factual and non opinionated. I was bothered when I read the pages because they were created 10 years ago by Missourians and were completely biased. Every time I would try to add a referenced statement in favor of Kansas on one of these pages, they would be removed by users from Missouri like Grey Wanderer who has gone back and undone all of my referenced material and also has created false information. For example he Just edited the Tom Watson (golfer page) I clearly put on that page that the Kansas City country club is in Mission Hills, Kansas then user Grey Wanderer came and put that it is in Kansas City Missouri which is not true and is a total lie. I would like for the Kansas City related articles to not be biased and to be completely factually based which is what I was trying to do. For example you reverted the Kansas City metropolitan area page. Now it is a false page with false information. I had edited it to make it completely non biased. It is not a 15 county metropolitan area, it is a 14 county metropolitan area I added the reason and references to every edit I made. I also put statistics such as labor percentages in each state and which county was the most populated and most densely populated. I truly apologize for using multiple accounts and hope that we can come to an agreement where I agree to only edit with one account. I also know now it is not Ok to evade bans or logging out to use your IP address. I truly want to add referenced material to Wikipedia and hope to regain the trust of the community}} Midwestman1986 (talk) 00:16, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose You'll be doing the same things you did before. And you can't even format an unblock statement right! You should stay blocked, for the sake of the community. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:23, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Neutral Oppose Hey there Midwestman1986, I’ve reviewed the edit you disked on Tom Watson (golfer). In undertaking the lengthy task of reviewing your edits it’s possible I made some errors, if I did you’re welcome to addresses me at my talk page and I’ll do my best to fix them. There were many many articles that you simply added Johnson County, Kansas links to in addition to the city already there. This is unwieldy and is not how we normally talk about places, usually it’s just “Witchita, Kansas” not “Witchita, Kansas within Sedgwick County, Kansas” considering the reader already knew a general location I didn’t think any location info was that helpful. So many of your edits seems to try to draw attention to Johnson County in awkward places I just had to use my best judgement, I didn’t delete them all! On Kansas City metropolitan area you are correct, the latest census definition was updated to 14 counties, previously 15, thanks for bringing that to my attention, it’s fixed. I’m happy to engage you directly about the Kansas/Missouri balance, but may I suggest you examine your own beliefs about some things? Maybe you can live up to that user name of Historybuff1111. As one, you should know that the Kansas River defined the border between the two states. The mouth of the Kansas (where it meets the Missouri) set the original western border of the Missouri Territory when it became a state. It’s mouth has moved west since the 18th century, rivers do that. The border was in the middle of the river. Kansas City was named after the Kansas River, it was the big port just downstream of the confluence. The Kansas Indianas had been largely expatriated from the area by the time. So yes, Kansas City takes its name from the tribe, but indirectly via the river. In fact, Missouri and Kansas have this etymological process in common! As for your block, I think a longer cool off period than a day is probably warrented, but I have no strong opinion. However either way make sure you understand that you can’t just revert edits you disagree with. It’d be better to use the talk page, there are often good logical reasons. I would also recommend you review the accounts you have over at Commons, like  that have copyrighted matieral, Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. Finally there were multiple instances on talk pages where you replied to yourself, backing yourself up, pretending to be a different person contrary to what you’ve claimed below. At this point, you’ve not even really adknowledged that you understand the problem. Grey Wanderer (talk) 02:24, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok. I only recall pretending to be someone else intentionally one time which was with the flying squirrel account. I now understand that it’s frowned on by Wikipedia. I can’t talk on your talk page currently because I’m banned. Anyways, you could let me calm down for a few days then unban me that would be great. I just wasn’t really familiar with how Wikipedia worked. I also think you should re add the picture I had on the Kansas City metropolitan area page. I made it myself. The old one is outdated and shows the 15 county area. I was honestly trying to make it more accurate. Since these pages have been created Johnson county has gained a lot of people. It has more people and the same amount of business as KCMO. It is also the most densely populated county. Hopefully when I’m unbanned I can coordinate with you to make it more accurate. You seem to have a large biased towards Missouri Obviously. I live on the Missouri side and my entire family is from clay county. I still think Joco and the Kansas side is very un represented in these pages. The Kansas side is 40% of the population btw and Missouri accounts for only 56% of employment. Hopefully you can help me make these pages more accurate when I’m unbanned and we can work together in doing so. Midwestman1986 (talk) 02:51, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * You've clearly not respected the ban, despite claiming so above, new account and anon edits will continue to be reported. Grey Wanderer (talk) 20:53, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok ? But can you give me a break I was unaware of guidelines as a new user
Sorry it’s harder on my phone. But you have to admit, that I never pretended to be different people when I was talking to you. I was just editing from multiple accounts. The things I added there are well sourced and it should be an encyclopedia. I think it’s unnecessary to say Kansas City Missouri in the Johnson county page. Kansas City Missouri has less people and Johnson county has more density than any others. I would appreciate if you would re add some of the things I added such as it being the most densely populated in the area I don’t want to be a dick. I just think it’s to geared towards Missouri when almost half the population and business is in Kansas. I would greatly appreciate you re adding some of the things I had. Sorry I was ingnorant of how Wikipedia worked. I didn’t know the guidelines man. Midwestman1986 (talk) 00:37, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * The guidelines say you should wait 6 months before making an unblock request. During that time you shouldn't make any edits, even to your talk page. And you might still get turned down based on your behavior. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:29, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Unblock
Some rather strange comments were left on my talk page in 2021 by this user (diff diff diff diff). There has been continued editing on the usual pages in the last month, as recently as last week, all pushing the usual agenda of the last five years and all have been reverted by myself and others. They continued creating sock puppets long after they read the policy against it, some much more recently than admitted. An unblock seems ill-advised. They have always feigned ignorance of policy and have little interest in building an encyclopedia. Grey Wanderer (talk) 22:58, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

No I clearly do want to Build an encyclopedia. And yes I admitted above I have circumvented the block previously. There is no “agenda””. You can see on the Kansas City, Missouri and economy of Kansas City and Overland Park pages than my edits were indeed constructive. Midwestman1986 (talk) 23:55, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

By the way to anyone reading this Kansas City Missouri is a completely car dependent and mostly post-WW2 city with only 2.9% of workers getting to work with transit most of whom can’t afford cars and use the city bus. I would appreciate questions to how I could improve articles and can supply plenty of reliable references Midwestman1986 (talk) 08:09, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

thanks for volunteering on Wikipedia. I now know that admins are volunteers so I don’t want to waste your time. I was just curious how I could make my appeal more persuasive to you and the community as you previously stated on my last unblock request to try to be more persuasive. Hopefully this one is better, I really do like learning and want to contribute to the encyclopedia. Thanks for taking the time to read.

Hi thank you for volunteering on Wikipedia. I don’t mean to waste much of your time or be disruptive but would greatly appreciated a response. I think you were my handling administrator on the UTRS appeals. It has been 3 and a half months since I edited Wikipedia. I now understand that one user one account should be followed and blocks shouldn’t be bypassed. Do you think this unblock request is more convincing? Or would you like me to wait a certain amount of time and post a new unblock request. I want to work together with others and see things from others points of view also. Thank you
 * Pings do not work unless you sign the same post in which you ping(with ~ ). As this is a checkuser block only a checkuser may authorize its removal. 331dot (talk) 12:37, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi are you a checkuser? I was told that my block was a checkuser block and only a checkuser can authorize its removal. I have previously been blocked and would appreciate you reading my unblock request. I have had distruptive editing in the past and have evaded blocks. I promise to only use one account and not be disruptive and instead work on consensus building and listening to others points of views and not evade my block. I promise to be a rule abiding editor as I wasn’t aware of the rules when I first started. It would be greatly appreciated if I could get a second chance. Midwestman1986 (talk) 02:42, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Materialscientist: I think you should deny Midwestman1986's unblock request and revoke their talk page access, as they have been spamming their own talk page for over four years now with unblock requests that have gone nowhere. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:57, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * How is updating how many months it’s been since I edited Wikipedia spamming? They clearly said I could make a new unblock request Midwestman1986 (talk) 07:39, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi I did previously go almost 6 months without account creation or ip edits but my unblock requests have been ignored. If I make a convincing unblock request in a few months can I personally ping you to review my request? I was previously told that only a check-user admin can unblock me. I like editing on Wikipedia and it’s been 4 years since I created the first account. My edits have become more constructive and are well referenced but they get removed because I’m bypassing a block.


 * Sorry, but after declining a request, I am not eligible to review another. PhilKnight (talk) 07:41, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Unblock

 * request for a CU sweep. If it is acceptable then I plan to submit it for community review, since we've been bouncing around for years and the last few sockpuppet accusations from a user above are indicated as not connected. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * CU sweep shows clear logged-out editing as recently as last week. Veto from me. GeneralNotability (talk) 17:52, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Well that's obligingly simple Nosebagbear (talk) 18:49, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi and  i understand that currently the only problem with me being blocked is block evasion and hopping around different ip addresses. If you look at the edits done from these ip addresses you can see they are constructive and I do genuinely want to build an encyclopedia. I have tried staying off for the standard 6 months on 2 different occasions and am curious why I haven’t been unblocked or even considered. I will wait six months to ask for another unblock request but I do hope that I can be unblocked eventually and do want to work collaboratively with others. I don’t intend to disrupt the project thanks for reading. Midwestman1986 (talk) 00:10, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


 * It was the absence of the 6 month bit here that led to me declining - otherwise by now I'd have asked you to write an appeal for the community and sent it there for an unblock review. That nicely combines the reasons for all your 2023 declines. Two, including mine, were on the basis of logged-out editing while blocked. The other two were closed as stale, bluntly, because your case was blurred enough that individual admins found it hard to come to a clear decision. That was why the "ask the community" was a good Gordian knot way of resolving that issue.
 * If you want to improve your odds in the future, don't edit here, try productively editing Simple English wikipedia (assuming you aren't also sanctioned there). Please note that they employ a "one strike and you're out" rule for en-wiki blocked editors. Nosebagbear (talk) 06:28, 7 August 2023 (UTC)