User talk:Miguel.mateo/Archives/2008/April

Finland
sorry u wouldnt mind doing your test on france or somfin im doin some edits on finland and im getting edit conflicts. cheers!

WP:AWB
Hi, you're now approved. Enjoy! -- Rodhullandemu  (Talk) 22:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Regarding layout of the Euro gold and silver articles
when we first had the discussion about the layouts your initial suggestion was to have them side by side and restrict the cell width to 350px and have the images at 160px.

''Let me work that out at home toght, I have almost all browsers installed in my Mac and PC. My real intention is to display the coins one next to each other, so as I said, there is no much white spaces. So maybe the solution is to set the cell with to 160x2 + alpha (for spacing) (so aorun 350px). When I removed the 180px, then in IE the coins looks next to each other, the other tables I see them one on top of the other. Miguel.mateo (talk) 05:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)''.

one of my main concerns with agreeing to this was that the large text in the description caused white space above and below the coin image. In the newer articles I have used short descriptions and I plan to go back on the older articles to do the same, with the reduced description the white space above and below the coins does not occur. If you still agree with your initial suggestion then I will change all the articles to fit that layout. I also will left align the text in the cells because when its center aligned it appears left aligned in FF and centered in IE I think its important that the articles appear the same or as close to one another for all users. I would suggest that for the reasons stated above you should reduce the descriptions on the Austria and Belgium articles. What is your opinion on this suggestion?Kevin hipwell (talk) 13:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * In principle I agree, I will be home soon, let's chat about it. I think is important we reach a conclusion quick, before continuing working on more articles. Miguel.mateo (talk) 23:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Kevin, did some test on the Austria article, and checked in two computers with different resolution. You were right, one on top of the other looks way better in lower resolution (while one next to the other looks better on higher resolutions).  Let me try to find a solution to this problem.  The goal will be to achieve similar renderings in both IE and FF, and if possible, make the image to move down on lower resolutions. Miguel.mateo (talk) 13:33, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Belgian euro coins
Hi Miguel, if you need help in translating Dutch language sources, count me in! It's my native language :-)! Steinbach (fka Caesarion) 13:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Steinbach, thanks a lot! Do you mind if I send you some pictures to translate? It will be a couple of sentences per picture.  Then I can advance faster.  If you are OK with that, please send me a mail so I can see your private mail address and reply you back with the pictures. Thanks again Miguel.mateo (talk) 15:42, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thank you very much for the barnstar, I appreciate it! Snappy56 (talk) 02:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome! You deserve it, I follow your contributions quite closely ;) Miguel.mateo (talk) 02:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks from me as well :-) Pfainuk talk 18:59, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't feel descriminated, I follow yours too ;) Miguel.mateo (talk) 13:32, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

You know, I just noticed you gave one to me too!! I haven't been to my own user page in quite a while. Thanks!! Cheers. The € • T/C 08:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, I have learned a lot from you together with others in Wikipedia. Miguel.mateo (talk) 09:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Can the HTML tag be put in a wikipedia article?
helpme I was wondering if there is anyway that the HTML tag can be added to a wikipedia article, does anyone know how? Miguel.mateo (talk) 12:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi! Most HTML tags have been disabled in articles, as they present a security risk. If the tag doesn't work, then it's impossible to use it in an article.  Stwalkerster  [  talk  ]  12:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Generalizing then. Is there anywhere described how to change a document layout based on screen resolutions? Meaning I want two images to show one on top of the other if the resolutions is 1024x768 but one next to the other if the resolution is 1200x1024.  Is it possible? Miguel.mateo (talk) 12:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The software should automatically do something like that, or at least your browser should. If a line of images will not fit onto one line, then it will wrap those images onto several lines. For example, User:Stwalkerster/Image wrapping demo shows 2 lines of images (a filing cabinet), each line 7 cabinets long. When I resize my browser window, it automatically adapts the length of the line, to say 3 cabinets long. The code to the page is just a single long line of images. I hope this explains a bit.  Stwalkerster  [  talk  ]  13:06, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Please check this article, as you can see the images of the two coins are one next to the other, in both High and Low resolutions (using IE) I would like these two images to go one on top of the other on Low resolution displays.  That is why I needed a tag.  Any idea?  BTW, shall I remove the {helpme} tag? (Are you watching this page?) Thanks! Miguel.mateo (talk) 13:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That's an issue with Internet Explorer - other browsers display it correctly. The only way I can think of forcing Internet Explorer to display it correctly would be to put it into a table, with one above the other, but this would then always display it like that. Simply put, I don't see a way of fixing this issue, without re-writing Internet Explorer itself. I use Firefox, and have had no problems with it. I'm not watching your page, but rather watching CAT:HELPME, which lists all those who want help. :)  Stwalkerster  [  talk  ]  13:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks anyway, will continue trying something else. Miguel.mateo (talk) 13:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Euro

 * Yeh they are and its a good thing. I just hope the UK gets it. Im not sure if it is 100% correct true over Saint-Martin and Saint-Barthélemy. I got the info from []. So I thought that that both parts should correspond, but there are no references for them two. However over sea French territories may have permission. So I don't know if its true. Ijanderson977 (talk) 16:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

World Cup Euro coins
Are you sure that a special set of coins is really notable to the competition? I'm not convinced, tbh. – PeeJay 09:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I do think they are, several countries minted different issues, some of them of really high value. The reason I put it in the "See also" is because they are exactly that a "see also" reading.  How about just the comment and no picture?  BTW, I believe if I asked in your watch page, this conversation should stay there, but up to you. Just let me know where to continue it. Miguel.mateo (talk) 12:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm still not convinced that a set of coins is actually notable. I mean, they're just coins. The only thing tying them to the World Cup article is that they have the words "2006 FIFA World Cup Germany" on them. Not notable, IMO. – PeeJay 23:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * PeeJay, they are not 'just coins', they are coins specially minted, in very low quantities, and some of them of really high value, with the only objective of celebrating these games. They may not be important to you, but they are for sure for a lot of sport lovers.  People around the world collected and bought those special coins, just to remember the games.  The fact that these coins exist should be told, it could be a very interested topic to another people (like me in this case).  It is just in the "See Also" section, so it does not have a huge impact on the whole article.
 * As a compromise situation, while I continue putting information about numismatics on Wikipedia, if I reach more than three coins celebrating these games (which I will for sure), I will create a new article just for that. In the mean while, please keep it there. Thanks! Miguel.mateo (talk) 02:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Designs of euro coins
Hi Miguel.mateo, you mentioned in the talk page of Introduction of the euro, that
 * "...the designs of the coins that never made it are copyrighted material, and cannot be simply displayed here."

Can you provide a link for me where you have found these images? Perhaps there is something I can do to allow for reproduction on Wikipedia. Cheers. The € • T/C 03:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. Those are displayed in almost every country central bank's web page.  I remember I got the images for Estonia and Lituania and a wikipedia administrator told me that those images can not be put here, because of their copyright.  You can try for those, and if it works, we can search all others. Thanks. Miguel.mateo (talk) 03:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry to be a nag... can you give me the exact website addresses for all of the images you have found? Their placement could be a key factor in obtaining permission. I have some pull with the European system of central banks... Cheers. The € • T/C 03:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Give me a few minutes, doing the search now through my old notes. If you are in Europe it should be very late for you now ;) Miguel.mateo (talk) 03:38, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It's actually quite early! I'm usually awake by 03:30! Early for you too, if you are in Europe! Cheers. The € • T/C 03:46, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The web sites of the central banks for Estonia and Lithuania are http://eestipank.info/frontpage/en/ and http://www.lb.lt respectively, but unfortunately I do not find the pages they used to have with the designs for the euro selection competition. I do have all the designs from Estonia in images in my laptop, and can send them to you if you need them.  If you want them, send me a mail through Wikipedia and I will reply to you.


 * I am located in Japan, so it is the middle of the day for me, almost 1pm right now! Let me know if you need more help, the designs of the "coins to be" would be a very interesting topic. Particularly, showing the designs of the new 2 euro 2009 should be interesting.  Thanks! Miguel.mateo (talk) 03:58, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Hayden euro
Hello... I made about as good an argument as I could, though I think that my input could be viewed as non-neutral, since my username is Theeuro. If the shortsightedness continues, I recommend pursuing a "Request for comment" by a neutral administrator. You can ask Nightstallion how that works (you can't ask him to do it because he has already commented on the issue). Good luck- I'll keep an eye on the page to see how it is going. Cheers. The € • T/C 09:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Another thought: try offering to put the info on Hayden's euro in a separate section called 'Hayden's legacy' or something to that effect. It could go after 'Final years in Vienna'. Also, you might want to go over to Mozart and Beethoven's articles and put information about their respective euro commemorative coins there (and Mozart is on the Austrian 1 euro general circulation coin too...) and see how that goes before continuing with this drama. If it is accepted, cite it as precedent. Think about the other figures that at least the 2 euro coins have commemorated and do the same for them... G-D Henri leaps to mind... Bartolomeo Borghesi, Christopher Columbus, Grace Kelly... you get the idea. It seems like alot of extra work, but it might well be worth it. I think it is very valuable information at least in the sense of the legacy historical figures leave behind. Cheers. The € • T/C 10:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks mate, such an argument for such a small reference to a commemorative coin. I have tons of samples, but all of the made by me!  I can do Beethoven and Mozart, but the same people will revert the changes.  Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven are part of a collection "Great Composers", of 50 euros each.


 * BTW, I am sure you have noticed already, but with another wikipedian we started the collection of articles "Euro gold and silver commemorative coins ", as you suggested long time ago. We already have almost finished Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Ireland and Spain.  what I am currently doing is wikilinking, hence the whole argument of Haydn. Miguel.mateo (talk) 10:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)