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March 2013
Hello, MikaelH57. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you should consider our guidance on Conflicts of interest and take a look at the Plain and simple conflict of interest guide.

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. 99.137.210.226 (talk) 15:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Please also see guidelines at WP:COPYVIO, WP:ADVERT and WP:MULTIPLE. I've begun a thread about the article here, where you're welcome to comment. 99.137.210.226 (talk) 15:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for removing problematic text. The hidden discography list will go, too, since Wikipedia is not a directory--notable examples can be listed, but a catalogue is not appropriate. Please also understand that the writing of Wikipedia biographies must not be directed by their subjects, nor undertaken by editors answering to them. Articles must adhere to WP:NPOV, and while conflict of interest accounts are welcome to make constructive contributions (removing false or libelous information, for instance), they do not own said articles, and all content needs to be supported by reliable, rather than primary, sources. Thanks again, 99.137.210.226 (talk) 16:34, 17 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Here's something I would recommend: if you or Mr. Lorber can provide sources per WP:RELIABLE--I'm thinking of newspaper or magazine articles about him, perhaps pre-internet era--that will strengthen the article and provide fuller background information about his life and work, such resources would be most valuable. In other words, solid references to flesh this out as an encyclopedic entry, and remove any impression of promotion or conflict. I or other editors can help with the writing, too. 99.137.210.226 (talk) 18:30, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Alan's Content
Thanks for the direction and excellent info - and being patient! Alan and I are just a fellow musicians; not related or acquaintances. I offered to make corrections to his wiki after I saw his complete bio. He knew nothing about his wiki page. I am actually a programmer/cyber security specialist. A real geek!
 * Well, Wikipedia is powered by geeks, or in my case, people who are old enough to have found printed encyclopedias fascinating reading when they were children. Several pieces of advice re: the article: I've since done some quick online research, and find that recently published rock anthologies and articles in the Boston Globe are none too kind to the Bosstown hype. My suggestion if you're going to work on the article is to remove hyperbole. There's a tendency for sharp-eyed readers to take umbrage, respond by overplaying published negative assessments, and soon things get messy--I noticed that someone had already taken issue with the article's tone and vandalized it. Bosstown ought to be mentioned, supported by reliable sources, but it wasn't a commercial success, and shouldn't be spun otherwise. That's about all from me for the moment. (My IP changed because I got knocked offline for a moment, as so often happens out here....) Cheers, 99.136.255.134 (talk) 19:49, 17 March 2013 (UTC)e

Thanks for the info - and again - your help! I just noticed that someone removed the content I left. This was part of the original content before I updated. Don't know why this happened? I am working in a sandbox on an update, including cites/refs. This will take awhile. Now Alan wiki's is empty. Can this be restored w/o violating?


 * Yeah, I just noticed that, too. They're a good editor who's left an explanation at the article talk page, to the effect that what remained was still a copyright violation. 99.136.255.134 (talk) 20:06, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem. It makes sense. I will have to contact Alan to tell him not to remove his content on their server. Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.201.141 (talk) 20:08, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Question: Alan's bio content on the orpheusreborn server belongs to him. If it is removed, can I readd the content to his wiki? Of course, I will need to work on cites/refs and wiki grammar guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.201.141 (talk) 20:17, 17 March 2013 (UTC)


 * By the way, though I'd like to cut you some slack and WP:AGF, you're more connected to the subject than you let on, and are represented musically by Mr. Lorber's record company. Your edit summaries, as well as those of the other accounts that either you're using, or are working in concert with you, have made it clear that you've been in close communication with the subject. Please don't say that you're not acquaintances. 99.136.255.134 (talk) 17:44, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

You are making assumptions. Alan and I have only a professional relationship. Have only communicated via emails - never spoken. I will not share my background on wiki. Just a note: I have extensive experience in the computer industry. That is all I am going to share. Feel free to e-mail me at mhodo1757@verizon.net if you want to resolve this matter. Thanks!


 * That's alright, the communication is best kept open here. Under no circumstances are you required to divulge personal information, but you've already shared information via edit summaries and user page history that justify such assumptions. I've no intention of outing you, which itself would be a violation of Wikipedia's guidelines. But if one is writing extensively, and solely, about business associates and a business with which one is involved, it's best to be transparent to that effect, at the least for the sake of credibility. 99.136.255.134 (talk) 18:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate the communication, help, and feedback. You seem to be very knowledgeable technically, but logs don't always justify assumptions. I should know this because I work in infosec and do this for a living. I could gather a lot of info on you just from your ip - but it means nothing; doesn't impress me to "out people." Your wiki knowledge is very impressive, and I would like to reachout to you sometimes for help. You have my e-mail so feel free connect if you need technology help and/or if you want share "white hat hacker" knowledge :-)

Need your wiki help. I just saw your talk page where you stated "incubated." If you want me to remove the page - no problem. I need to move on with my life. As the saying goes, "the road the hell is paved with good intentions." I put a lot of work into this contribution; however, I have no problem removing it. I understand the "kept open" guideline. However, I will only resolve my identity via e-mail and/or linkedh. If you can review the article and remove anything that is not in line with guidelines - go for it. I added a lot of cites/refs to the articles. Btw, I had a chance to read the policy statements you listed. Excellent info! Since you are the wiki guru - 99.136.255.134 - I will go with your recommendation. Thanks again for your help!


 * I'm not asking that you remove it, but it's too riddled with problems to introduce into article space; COI stuff, listings of non-notable musicians and recordings. I haven't looked at the references. But there's nothing in it that requires removal from its current place. I'm no guru. I've written and edited here a long time. 99.136.255.134 (talk) 01:06, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

After sleeping on it I removed it this morning. Not worth the hassle. Thanks again for your advice/assistance!