User talk:MikeLilly42

Mike Lilly
Hi. Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for working to improve the site with your edits to Mike Lilly, as we really appreciate your participation. However, most of the edits had to be reverted, for the following reasons:


 * Wikipedia cannot accept unsourced material or original research. This includes material lacking cited sources, or obtained through personal knowledge or unpublished synthesis of previously published material. Wikipedia requires that the material in its articles be accompanied by reliable, verifiable (usually secondary) sources explicitly cited in the text in the form of an inline citation, which you can learn to make here. This is especially important for statements such as "Lilly’s critically acclaimed run on Vampirella Revelations from Harris Comics won him a Best Black and White Illustration Art Show Award of Excellence from I-CON 25." If you have secondary, reliable sources for the information you added to the article, please feel free to re-add the information, and include citations of those sources. If you need help creating citations, feel free to contact me (see below).


 * It is also important to note that autobiographical edits are strongly discouraged on Wikipedia, in part because such edits present the danger of a conflict of interest. In addition, care must be taken that articles are not used to promote the subject, as that is not the role of Wikipedia.


 * You removed the Annihilation template from the article (it was located in between the External links section and the Authority Control template), and without offering a rationale for this in an edit summary. I'm guessing this might've been a mistake on your part, but in general, editors are expected to summarize their edits in edit summaries.


 * A couple of somewhat more minor points, but Wikipedia must be written in a formal tone, which means, among other things, that subjects should not be referred to by first name. Also, terms should be wikilinked unless there are articles for them, or there is some likelihood that articles will be created for them. Wikilinked terms that do not have their own Wikipedia article show up in the saved article as red links, and articles should not contain an excessive number those, nor should they contain an excessive number of wikilinks in general. See WP:WIKILINK for more on this, and WP:OVERLINK for more information on overlinking articles.

If you have any other questions about editing, or need help regarding the site's policies, just let me know by leaving a message for me in a new section at the bottom of my talk page. Thanks. :-) Nightscream (talk) 05:04, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi. Thank you for the message you left me on my talk page. Since you have a username account, it is best to use it when communicating with other editors, so they know who they're talking to. In addition, always make sure to sign your talk page posts, which makes it easier for everyone to know who they're addressing. You can do this by typing four tildes (~) at the end of them, which also automatically time stamps them.


 * Let me try to address each of your concerns in summary.


 * First, you say that the information that was in your article was inaccurate. If you can tell me which statements or passages are inaccurate, I will address them. We take complaints about inaccuracy from the subject of biographical articles rather seriously.


 * Second, regarding your statement "How can inaccurate information be given but not from the actual artist themselves? All the information I provided is accurate and true. You can look up any of those credits and see my name attached as the actual artist. How can I put up an accurate listing if the best source is the artist themselves?", the artist himself is not the best source for an article, for reasons I explained above in my first message on this page, complete with wikilnks to the pages that detail the relevant Wikipedia policies. While relying on a primary source, like the subject's own website, is acceptable for information like their date of birth, where they grew up, or who their influences are, in general, the information in an articles, including that which details the reasons why the subject is notable, must be supported by citations of secondary sources. To get an idea of what type of sources are generally relied upon for comics creators, take a look at the Brian K. Vaughan article, in particular, the publications cited in the references section: Newsarama, Comic Book Resources, Fanboy Buzz, IGN, The Hollywood Reporter, MTV, etc. Sources that we often rely on for awards include the Hahn Library Comic Book Awards Almanac and the official sites of the San Diego Comic-Con, the Harvey Awards, the Eagle Awards, etc.


 * Another example where primary sources can be used at the issues of the publications you worked on themselves, since any given narrative work, such as a book, film, TV episode, comic book, etc., can used as its own primary source for describing its content (that is, its plot and its credits). For comics the specific issues of the comics or publications that you worked on should be provided, and for things like magazines or newspapers, the full publication info, if possible, should be given, like the date and page number, yet not only were the issues of the New York Times, Financial Times, Ocean Drive, Wizard and New York Post that you worked on not given, you actually removed the "issues needed" tags on them. Why did you do this? Didn't it occur to you that they were there for a reason? If you could provide the publication info for those issues you worked on, we could remove those tags. Without this, I can't really look up the credits. I tried using Google and Amazon to look up your work for Scholastic and GlaxoSmithKline, but the first hit I got was your website, to which much of the information in your Wikipedia article seems to have been copied verbatim, including assertions about how you are "best known in the Star Wars community". As I explained in my first message above, this is not acceptable.


 * Please look over these messages, and the policies and guidelines that have been linked therein. I would be more than happy to help you beef up your article, as I have to the articles of many other comics creators (Brian K. Vaughan, Art Adams, Peter David, Jim Lee, Frank Cho, Jeff Smith, Geoff Johns, Brian Michael Bendis, Joe Quesada, Jay Faerber, Axel Alonso, Mike Diana, Judd Winick, Craig Thompson, Chris Claremont, Scott McCloud, Gene Ha, Rob Liefeld), but it must be done for the sake of encyclopedic value, according to Wikipedia's guidelines. Happy Holidays. Nightscream (talk) 17:45, 29 November 2012 (UTC)



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