User talk:Mike Cherim

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Please review WP:LINKS paying close attention to section 11 of links normally to be avoided. Thank you. Purgatory Fubar Converse or Snafu 19:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * External links to your own commerce website are considered advertising. Please do not promote your own website on Wikipedia. Bugguyak 15:28, 8 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Mike, please do not promote your own business, The Green Spot on Wikipedia. It is considered advertising as you well know. Bugguyak 01:12, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

The content of that web site is taken from a book called The Green Methods Manual ISBN: 0-964-8682-0-2 (1998, Cherim, M.). That book has been many times referred to as "The Biocontrol and IPM Bible" by readers ranging from individuals, to universities and institutions all over the United States, to commercial growers, even government. The site has long been considered an unbiased resource of information and that has always been its focus. It was listed here for a long time and I have many links out-bound to Wikipedia to extend an information source to subjects I don't cover fully.

Just because I did add a small shop a couple of weeks ago does not suddenly make this a self-promotion stunt. So, respectively, no, I do not "well know" and I take exception to the insinuation. I ask that you reinstate the two links (Biocontrol and IPM) and offer the readers here the access to my solid and well-respected information.

Sample: http://greenmethods.com/site/biocontrols/nematodes/

Mike Cherim


 * Mike, I am very familiar with your book and business. I have a copy and am a former customer. That is why you and I both know that it is considered spam by Wikipedia standards. Please take a look at the WP:LINKS paying close attention to the section on links normally to be avoided. If you feel the links should be added to the articles, then please discuss it on the article's talk pages before reinserting it. Bugguyak 12:33, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I've read the WP: Links page and still do not see the problem, unless it has something to do with the emphasis on the word former in your response. I did not provide the links to promote the site (that one could be suspected), but everything else seems to pass without question. I saw nothing in the rules that would automatically indicate my contributions are spam. I know spam, I see lots of it, and it has a distinctive smell and flavor that I am not offering in my contributions. The information on the site is as unbiased and complete as possible and I feel it goes above an beyond most resources on the subject... for the same reasons many universities link to the site or, in the case of PennState, actually use the book as a portable handheld resources for the state's extension agents. Again, I ask that the inclusion be reconsidered. If not, please tell me specifically what the offense is. Thanks.