User talk:Mike Payne/Archives/Archive Complete

Christopher Meloni picture
The problem with pictures like these is that they are copyright and are only intended to show the character, not the actor. With the actor, freer images are available to show their likeness and can easily be obtained. With Wikipedia being as free as possible, images such as these should not be used on actors pages. They can still be used on the characters page. (Quentin X 18:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
 * Didn't realize it, but the picture is still in fact on the Elliot Stabler page. I suppose images like the actor's publicity photos should be used here, right? -Mike Payne 18:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Publicity photos have the same copyright. The idea is to get completely free images, i.e. the actor walking down the street etc. I know that it sound a bit ludicrous but it can be done. See Brad Pitt for an example. The Elliot Stabler page can remain the same as it concerns the character. (Quentin X 19:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
 * But aren't the actor's personal publicity photos meant for this kind of thing? If they aren't for promoting the actor and making them more well known by educating people about them, then what are they for? Also, other pictures, such as the picture on the Brad Pitt page that you mentioned, what makes these free and the publicity photos not? -Mike Payne 00:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It boils down to control - Wikipedia wants images that are freely available to anybody, whereas most publicity photos are still owned by somebody who wants to retain control. Of course Wikipedia makes exceptions where there is no free alternative available (somebody's dead, for example, or to depict a character rather than an actor), but in the case of a living celebrity that's not a realistic argument - theoretically, you could attend a film festival or award ceremony and take a pic. That appears to be the case for the Brad Pitt photo, for example. CovenantD 15:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * So does anyone know if there is a picture that is free and similar to the one used on the Ricky Gervais page for Meloni? -Mike Payne 04:01, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * sigh so now the picture is gone from the Ricky Gervais page... I suppose all images have to be worthless off the cuff photos on wikipedia... -Mike Payne 11:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Reversions
You asked what I use to revert pages. See WP:TWINKLE. If that doesn't help, come to me for more information. --RazorICE 08:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you watch my talk page so you would see responses to this, or will anything I write as a reply on my own talk page kind of disappear into the void? -Mike Payne 08:58, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I watch all my edits :P --RazorICE 09:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Still kind of a newb on how policies are run here. I can do pretty well at reading articles and dissecting them to find out what code does what, but still learning. :) -Mike Payne 09:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've been around a while but only started really helping out today, actually. Welcome to Wikipedia, by the way. :) --RazorICE 09:06, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Same here. I've been reading forever but only started editing like 3 days ago. :) Gives me some way to bestow my insanely great knowledge with the people, and then someone can revert it! :P --Mike Payne 09:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/username to see a user's contributions. And yeah, it's getting addicting (I'm supposed to be doing school work, but I've been reverting vandalism for the last few hours...) --RazorICE 09:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * But is there a link from the person's user page or anywhere or do you have to manually type the URL? Isn't there a contributions link or something on the user page? --Mike Payne 09:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Toolbox on the left side of the page. User Contributions. =) --RazorICE 09:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Outstanding... Thanks! :) --Mike Payne 09:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Salting the earth
The article salary has the primary sources that make mention of salt being used for money. Codex Sinaiticus (Talk) 16:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Christian Bale
Please stop adding the Batman actors category to the article. That category was deleted more than once by consensus and prevented from recreation. I stated as much in my edit summaries, if you didn't notice, since apparently you haven't gone to the Category page itself and read the notice there. CovenantD 04:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC) Note: I like to keep discussions together, so I've replied to your latest question on my talk page. CovenantD 17:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Still don't see how that makes sense since he is a Batman actor, but OK... -Mike Payne
 * It's a really good idea to check edit summaries and the actual articles/categories when reverting their deletion to ensure that they still exist - unfortunately, they don't always show as a redlink. The Batman actors category was deleted because it was becoming a catch-all for every guest-star and voice actor ever associated with a Batman series, film or cartoon, not just those who actually portrayed the character himself. (Betty White and Tallulah Bankhead are the two that really stick in my mind.) A list that allows for annotation was created instead. CovenantD 05:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Your edit summary said something deleted/salted category, and I don't know what "salted" even means. Sorry. :) -Mike Payne 05:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Salted, as in salt the earth. Common shorthand for Protected from re-creation. CovenantD 05:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Regarding 203.206.175.46
Sorry, I am not an admin, but you can list the person at Administrator intervention against vandalism and a admin will take care of him for you. ThePointblank 14:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Userboxes
This should help you. -- Razor ICE talk 07:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

User Pages
Hehe, I like being asked about things! :D Personally, I used my user pages for preparing articles that I think may (but probably will not) be added to Wikipedia someday, as well as a Template I made earlier today for helping with warning vandals. You can make them by going to a page such as this and clicking on create article. -- Razor ICE talk 07:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * So is this where you would keep your signature save to make it easy to copy it so you can paste and add it, or is there another way to configure a signature for dash tilde tilde tilde tilde? -Mike Payne 07:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Signature can be edited through your preferences. Just change the contents of "Signature" to wiki-markup and check Raw signature. -- Razor ICE talk 08:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * And since we're on the subject, how do you create and use templates? I'm full of questions today. :) -Mike Payne 07:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Templates are the same as user pages, just make it by going to something like this and creating the page. You can then use it by typing, or you can use  (read up on subst for the difference between them). Hope this helps. -- Razor ICE talk 08:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Your question on my talk page
Glad you were able to figure it out. Feel free to ask questions at any time. CovenantD 05:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Finding out your edit count
You can find your edit count here. I love answering questions. :P --Razor ICE 07:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I hope you're not being sarcastic and you really do love answering questions, because I'm bound to have a ton of them. :) -Mike Payne 08:06, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hehe, no I really do like answering questions :P so if you have any more feel free to ask! :D --Razor ICE 09:24, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way I like the new sig a lot better than the last one, not that it was bad but the new one rules. -Mike Payne 14:55, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Celebrity Jeopardy! (Saturday Night Live)
I'm aware of your argument, and I've addressed it on the talk page. It doesn't matter that Connery's intent was not to get Final Jeopardy right for the purpose of winning the game. If there exists a correct answer (or multiple correct answers) and Connery provides it, then he has gotten the question right. For instance, one of the FJ questions is some variation on "make some kind of mark". Connery makes a mark, so he has fulfilled the requirement for correctness. Croctotheface 06:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Whatever, tomato tomahto. :) I won't change it again. -Mike Payne 06:44, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I take most things I work on pretty seriously, maybe too much so. If you're good, I'm good, and I appreciate that you looked to talk it out rather than just edit war.  It's admittedly a minor distinction, but better to get even the minor stuff right.  :)  Take care.  Croctotheface 07:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Templates
Hey mike, I think you're talking about the vandalism message, "Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively...", right? You can produce that and others using warning templates, which you can find at WP:UTTM. I use name of the page they vandalized for the first offense, uw-vandalism2 for the second that day, and so on up to 4, after which you can report them at WP:AIV to have them blocked. If you want to become a super vandalwhacker, you'll need some of the tools, such as WP:TWINKLE. I <3 twinkle! It lets you revert and warn with 2 clicks of a button. :)

By the way, I took the liberty of altering your email address on this page so that bots that crawl the internet won't find it as easily and send you mountains of spam. I'd recommend taking that off entirely and enabling the email function in "preferences" (i.e. setting up an email account) so people can email you using the function Special:emailuser/Mike Payne. An advantage of that is you get to decide who does and does not know your email address! Anyway, I'm always glad to help, dop me a line if you need anything or if I didn't answer your question adequately. Peace, delldot   talk  13:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * How do those addons even work? How can you even use one to alter the way a web page looks? And thanks for changing the email. :) -Mike Payne 20:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, the "Twinkle" that delldot referred to is the same that I told you about a long time ago (see here). They work by injecting a javascript code before you load the page (much like Greasemonkey for Firefox). Another useful tool I recommend you get when you have more than 500 (I think?) edits is VandalProof. --Razor ICE 08:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

More Cowbell shirt
RE: the note on my talk page, I realize you didn't intend it as advertising, but that's how it comes across, since it's a page from a commercial site whose only purpose is to sell shirts. External links are meant to give readers sources of more information on the subject, and a shirt doesn't really tell our readers much of anything, the way I see it. I hope that clears up why I removed it. Errick 00:25, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Archiving
Hey Mike, I do my archiving manually by cutting and pasting the text into an empty archive (e.g. next time I archive, I'll cut the text from User talk:delldot and paste it into User talk:delldot/Archive 5). Then I add the link to the new archive into the talk page header. However, there is a bot that you can get to do it, Werdnabot, but I've never used it and don't really know how it works (I think you put some script on the page to get the bot's "attention"). You'd probably have to ask Werdna or someone else who uses the bot. I would think archiving your own talk page with a bot would be annoying because you'd get the orange "you have new messages" box every time the bot archived something. Anyway, archiving talk pages is explained at How to archive a talk page, which explains a few different ways of doing it. Definitely keep those questions coming, I'm always glad to help. Peace, delldot   talk  22:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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Revert of Will Ferrell page
You recently reverted my edits to Will Ferrell. I edited out the mention of Chazz Michael Michaels in the Noteable Roles section. As you may notice, before that very same section is a comment stating:

"EDITORS: Before adding or deleting anything from the Notable Role section, please see and contribute to the topic about it in the Discussion page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Will_Ferrell#Noteable_Roles)"

This comment was put there, as well as an accomponying discussion topic on the discussion page because there have been a great deal of edits, unnecessary reverts, and editing wars centered around that section. So, the section stood as it was since a general concensus had been reached on the discussion page. Therefore, citing a lack of any mention of Chazz Michael Michaels on that discussion page, I deleted it as well as making the comment referencing the discussion a bit more succinct and noticeable. If you think that his role in Blades of Glory is indeed "Notable" then please bring it up in the discussion page. In the interim, my argument against adding it would be that a new role does not necessarily equate to a notable role. If it did then we would have to add a role for every new movie Ferrell is in. Furthermore, the film just came out today, which hardly makes the film historically or encyclopedically notable (yet).

So, if you like please discuss the topic in the discussion page. Until then I will re-revert my own edits. Thank you for your edits, and keep up the good work! --Drewcifer3000 00:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Archiving with Shadowbot3
From User:Werdnabot/Archiver/Howto:

To set up your User talk page for automatic archival by Werdnabot, you need to add, to the top of your user talk page, the following code:

where:
 * (age) is the number of days a section must have no signed comments before it becomes eligible for archival.
 * (target) is the fully-qualified name of the page to archive to. For example, my user talk page archives to User talk:Werdna648/Archive/Archive 03, and I specify this as the parameter.  expands to the same abbreviation that it would expand to in wikitext, i.e. July. Must be a subpage of current page unless listed at User:Werdnabot/Subpage Exceptions
 * (dounreplied), if set to yes, tells Werdnabot to archive sections with one or more signed comments, as different from the default behaviour of only archiving sections with two or more signed comments.

Hope this helps! --Razor ICE 13:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey there
I just wanted to let you know that Dane Cook: Vicious Circle has been updated and reformed, with a talk page now included. Have a good day, sir.

Stealthrabbit127 16:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

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Shameless (disambiguation)
Mike, I've removed the tag as you've added a second link to an established Wikipedia page. However, if I may suggest, creating the link to a non-existent page Shameless (HBO special) isn't advised. Regards. Netkinetic(t/c/@) 16:09, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps leaving it out of the disambiguation page at this time, until someone with an interest in that subject and information relating to it creates an article. Regards. Netkinetic(t/c/@) 16:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Good idea! :) Netkinetic(t/c/@) 16:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm unsure how to link with Wikitickonary, however I would like to request that you do not edit my personal talk page. The strikeout was there for a reason! Netkinetic(t/c/@) 18:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

...Nice...
I like the changes you made to the Dane Cook Page. Very professional. I might add that I just created a page myself: The General, a song by Dispatch.

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JB
Hahaha yeah, when I'm thinking dirty thoughts about jailbait I am NOT picturing Judd Nelson! =) Wl219 21:41, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Alienware Bot
The edit history shows that the term referred to one of their low-end PCs. So it's a valid term but not notable enough for it's own article. --Steve (Stephen)talk 04:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ahhhh ok, I remember it. It was their PC in a case made by Shuttle That they called the "Bot". Misleading at first. Sorry! :) -Mike Payne 17:50, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

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Alienware article
I'm not hear to Alienware <3 or bash, personally I've had no trouble with mine and I'm happy with it. I guess I'm just leaving you a Kudos for the way you dealt with the ... "more aggressive"... editors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GBobly (talk • contribs)

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Dane Cook: Vicious Circle/to do
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BJ Novak
Well, I added a picture of him that he had from his MySpace, which I added before I knew the whole copyright business of Wikipedia. But, I also added a picture of him comparing the Cadbury eggs, where I do not know why aren't there anymore... Xihix 00:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

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Re: IMDB images
I'm not really sure about image uploading on Wikipedia, however from my quick glance through IMDB I could not find any sort of license on pictures apart from copyrights on some. So, my guess is you either have to ask IMDB, or ask each copyright holder's permission to use them here. -- Razor  ICE  10:01, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Just so you know, just cropping a photograph that someone else took does not count as you creating it yourself, as you did not technically "create" the image yourself. From Image_use_policy: remember that rights to images generally lie with the photographer You can find free images here. You might also want to ask at Wikipedia_talk:Copyrights about the IMDB pictures. -- Razor  ICE  12:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Actor images== ==

Sorry for the tardy reply. The problem with photos on imdb is that they are copyright of someone so permission would be needed from the photographer before they could be used here. I tried an imdb photo once and it was deleted within a week. The explaination was that these are usually official photographs taken of the event and released to imdb to promote a film or actor. Hope that answers the question? (Quentin X 12:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC))

Fair use
Sorry, I'm not really sure. Have you asked on Wikipedia talk:Non-free content? Maybe I can ask around on IRC if you can't get an answer there. Peace, delldot   talk  01:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

This day in history July 26
To an extent I agree with you it is difficult to know the guidelines as to what is considered eligible for inclusion. However it is only a few clicks away, the Talk:July 26 page says that July 26 is part of WikiProject Days of the year where Wikicalendar Guidelines are to be found.

The guidelines are few and in my opinion too lenient in respect of listing people, but fairly clear as to events “Items listed under "Events" should be notable on a global scale”. And perhaps it is reasonable to note also that as well as being globally notable today they will still need to be notable 10 years from now, which is the most difficult test to self apply.

I see you have reinstated the entry in question, and although I will not remove it at the moment, however I suspect another editor will notice it and do so in the next few days. Perhaps you might like to remove it yourself rather than wait for that to happen. --Drappel 12:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Deleting user subpages
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 * They are automatically protected, no matter what their content. And the answer is you can't edit them. Put a editprotected on the page's talk page if you really must repair it. -N 15:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
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 * Don't worry about it, it's a common occurence. Tags, infoboxes, images, headers... they all affect the layout of text, so it takes some experimenting to see whether or not something is in the best possible place. Pele Merengue 22:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

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Re: External links
Hi again Mike! Good to hear from you :) Regarding your question, yes it is possible to show only the link (not the number) without doing the whole [url url] thing. All you have to do is write down the link (i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki) with no square brackets at all, but make sure it has the http:// bit in the start.
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Re: Your comments on my talk page.
Hehe, glad I could help with the signature (looks great! and simple, too!) and sub pages! :P As for the TOC, I'm not really sure if you can stop sections, but I know you can hide the TOC completely. Try here: meta:Help:Magic_words -- Razor  ICE  13:38, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok Go
Thanks for assuming good faith.Rosa 19:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry for reverting your edit to Tim's bio... I really want a better pic there; the one I posted I consider provisional until a better one replaces it...maybe a formal request template could lure somebody into providing a pic...I placed it on the talk page this time so it won't be so bothersome. Rosa 21:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Categories and stuff
Hello again! Don't worry about all the messages at my talk page, I don't mind! :P As for how to make a category, it should work the same as a normal article. I.e. Category:Tom Cruise as a villain. As for whether I know if Tom Cruise has played a villain, no. I did enjoy Collateral, however. :P Anyway, I'm not sure if a category such as this would be appropriate on Wikipedia. You might want to consider reading up on WP:CAT for more information as to what kinds of categories are allowed, and how to create them, etc. Hope this helps! :D -- Razor  ICE  13:04, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Why would you say that category would be inappropriate? It seems as though it fits the first guideline perfectly, since I was looking for other similar films in which he has played a villain, wouldn't it? -Mike Payne (T &bull; C) 15:29, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not sure if it is or isn't appropriate. I would say it isn't, only because it's very specific (and at the moment you only found one article suitable for it). But yeah, I really don't know. Sorry. :P -- Razor  ICE  12:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Dreams (disambiguation)
As for your edit: Per MOS:DAB: ''Each bulleted entry should, in almost every case, have exactly one navigable (blue) link. Including more than one link can confuse the reader; including no links at all makes the entry useless for further navigation.'' The linked album article already has all other relevant info links, so no need to overlink disambiguation pages. But since this is nothing to get in an edit war about, I'll leave it in for now. The next vandal or test editor will come along and add less appropriate stuff to this dab page soon anyway, so it can be fixed again then. :-) – sgeureka t•c 14:12, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Good call, I hadn't seen that, although I think I've heard that disambiguation pages should only have one link per line somewhere before, so yeah, I guess that's right... I reverted it. :) -Mike Payne (T &bull; C) 14:37, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Technologic
It does squeeze the text rather badly on the browser I'm using. The "rather short" section of obscured text happens to include the WP:LEAD sentence, which is the one place that should never be mangled or otherwise difficult to read. The article is primarily about the song, so replacing the single cover with the music video pic would be rather awkward. I also noticed that the article contains no detailed information on the music video. I would suggest that it be expanded with a new section relating to the video that could include a description of the character in the photo. Just64helpin 21:13, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, that compressed the entire section into a thin column for me. Rather than fuss about its position, I intend to expand the article per my suggestion. I've removed the photo until then. Hopefully, I'll be able to do some source-based research later today. Just64helpin 09:40, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Daft Punk
The names are there to clarify which person is in each helmet. This is also the standard for captions of photos featuring a band. Just64helpin 23:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * In the future, please discuss changes in the appropriate talk page instead of reverting. Just64helpin 23:44, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you missed this reply, so I'll point it out again. An infobox photo exists purely for identification purposes. Photos containing more than one person need the individual names to specify which person is which. Otherwise, the reader will not know who is who. As established by the the article name, opening sentence, and the top of the infobox, the article is about Daft Punk. Daft Punk happens to be two people. The individual members don't go around saying "hey, I'm Daft Punk". They do not disregard their individual names when they appear as a duo. Their physical appearances in the suits are also quite distinct. Further reverts will be considered disruptive (see WP:3RR). The edit description is not a chat box. please visit Talk:Daft Punk to discuss the matter properly. Just64helpin 10:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Apparently you did notice this topic, as evident in this diff. Would you please explain why made the change to the Daft Punk article after such a long period? Just64helpin 11:53, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

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RefImprove for Get Rich or Die Tryin' (album)
Hi, With the refimprove tag added under "Information" it moves the whole section below the infobox. Maybe your zoom is less than 100%? --  ¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤   19:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes I did. It moves it on my browser so it is sure to on many others (I use IE 7). Also please check edits before you label them vandalism. I am going to remove it again because it is fine at the top and is sure to affect other people's browsing. --  ¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤   19:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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Trishelle
Stating that she will SOON be starting a singing carrer, with NO valid citation, is pure speculation. And will be reverted.Aladdin Zane 01:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The problem is. It does not belong without a citation. Otherwise anything could be added. I could add she is an aspiring airline pilot, or aspiring astronaut. Which is why Wiki requires valid citations.Aladdin Zane 01:49, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand what you are saying. My Point is, Is it does not belong, even with the tag behind it. Otherwise I could add the things i said and put a tag behind them. I wasn't removing the tag. i was removing the statement, which goes against wiki being a crystal ball. Bottom line the statement isn't true and doesn't belong.Aladdin Zane 01:56, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Formatting References
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Learning to format your references, add author if available, title, original source, date, publication, hosting site if applicable, etc.

Please read:

Citing sources and also Citing sources/example style

Tom Hanks
In the TH article, you did a "ref name=BBC". Problem is, they were to TWO different articles:


 * news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4184066.stm = "Actor Hanks voted in by Academy" - BBC - August 25, 2005
 * news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5384320.stm = "Hanks tops 'most trusted' index" - BBC - September 27, 2006

I usually name the REF by the date also: "ref name=BBC-2005-08-25"; and if there is an author for the article/page, I use that first, either last name, or last name two initials, or even all just initials.

Take better care in formatting references... + IP4240207xx 18:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

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November 2007
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Jab843 (talk) 18:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC) On my records for the lupin filter change. I have you removing her birthname. " birthname =	+ 	birthnam " now that I have checked you have indeed not vandalized however it is on part of the script. I have reverted my edits. Ignore the said warning.--Jab843 (talk) 18:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

SCOTUS
"I never heard of that" is not a particularly good reason to delete information from Wikipedia; on the other hand, "everyone knows that" is also not a good reason to put information in. The proper standard is whether the information is verifiable in reliable third-party sources. In this case, the use of the acronym is easily verified in outside sources, and I have included a reference to that effect. Thank you for pointing out the need for verification. --Russ (talk) 14:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Daft Punk / copyvio ref
The copyvio ref was the only source used for the section. The ref cannot be used, so I removed the section along with it. There are also other problems associated with the ref and listing, which are discussed and can be elaborated upon in Talk:Daft Punk. Just64helpin (talk) 04:09, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

About the sandbox being reset
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There's a reply for you on my talk page, ideally I'd like the EL removed (but don't want to do it myself 'cause of the 3RR and whatnot). Right now it's the only wiki with it's own EL, and that's problematic. Plus, it's a deliberate choice not to link to external wikis. The 'has its own wiki page' criteria is deliberate to prevent spamming, linkcruft, redlinks and other sources.

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 * Thanks for the revert, much appreciated. Do us a bigger favour and create the damn page so I don't have to keep removing it :)  WLU (talk) 20:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

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It was back in April 2007. It was a Wicked Pictures production called 'Perfect Match' but im not sure who the guy was. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krystaljenna1 (talk • contribs) 20:15, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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Where in the Manual of Style does it state that Infoboxes should appear below full-width horizontal templates? Well, if you look at the Manual of Style pages, that's exactly how it's done! The style infobox appears below the style-guideline message box. The fact that you're changing a number of pages from that generally accpeted style, to your preferred style, should also be a hint that there is an established pattern. If you want to go change the entire encyclopedia to what you think looks better, well, you'll have to update everything from Windows 7 to New York Giants to, umm Wikipedia, Google, and the many, many, many other articles where infoboxes appear below other templates. Good luck with that. Update as many pages as you want, but people will change it back eventually... -/- Warren 04:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC)