User talk:Mikefnesse

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I'm trying to set up a page for Michael Andrew Clarke, this is my first page/article but I'm having trouble with references. I have the following web references and a bunch of scanned newspaper articles from newspapers that don't have archives that go back that far 1989/90, where should I go from here.

http://www.skiandsnowboard.org.au/customdata/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_main&ItemID=51978&OrgID=2083

http://forums.ski.com.au/xf/threads/australia%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%E2%84%A2s-first-winter-sport-world-champion.49497/#post-1458736

https://www.snowracer.com.au/index.cfm?fuseaction=CustomItem&ItemID=49429


 * These are not much use, I'm afraid. Forums are not reliable independent sources WP:RS, and the other two are single mentions of Clarke in lists. The scanned papers aren't all that much good either, as you can't post the scans for reasons of copyright (definitely not here, and if you post them somewhere else, you still aren't allowed to link to them because of copyright violation. If you can find a site that has archives of those papers, OK. Otherwise, there are possible problems with verifiability WP:V. Sorry. Peridon (talk) 15:00, 17 November 2013 (UTC)


 * The first source doesn't write so much as a single sentence about Clarke, and I see no indication that it's subject to editorial oversight; it's not reliable by Wikipedia's standards. The second is a forum post; user-submitted content like that also is not reliable. The third again doesn't write so much as a single sentence. Those websites are pretty useless for our purposes. The newspapers may make better sources, depending on how much they have to say about Clarke. See WP:Referencing for beginners on how to easily create nicely-formatted footnotes. You should not just provide the scan as a source (in fact the scans are likely copyright violations), but you should provide enough information so our readers can look up the newspapers in a library archive: Newspaper, publication date, page number, title of the article, author, ... - the more the better. Huon (talk) 15:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Huon for your help. I guess I'm not the first person you have helped as a newbie? I've found the following page that has been added by someone else??? And it includes a reference, [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=UVBWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=c-cDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1748%2C2445332 "Australian wins world ski event". Sydney Morning Herald. 17 April 1989. p. 58.] And the page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Clarke_(skier) The header says "Michael Clarke (skier)" Am I able to update that to "Michael Andrew Clarke" the problem I have with this is that in Australia we have a very famous " Michael James Clarke ", the captain of the Australian Cricket Team. Any help would be greatly appreciated!


 * The Sydney Morning Herald is indeed a reliable source, but it has very little to say about Clarke. It doesn't even confirm his birthday or his middle name. In fact, every single source I've seen so far calls him "Michael Clarke". That's why we should use that name as well and add a parenthetical "(skier)" to disambiguate him from all the other Michael Clarkes out there. For comparison, the cricketer article is at Michael Clarke (cricketer); since his name is Michael John Clarke, not Michael James Clarke, you'll understand why disambiguating by profession is more helpful than by middle name. Huon (talk) 10:58, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Michael Andrew Clarke


The article Michael Andrew Clarke has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. Jinkinson  talk to me  04:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

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