User talk:Mikegncb34

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Proposed deletion of Will County CrackerJacks


The article Will County CrackerJacks has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * An article with no references about a team that has played no games brings into doubt that the subject has achieved WP:NOTABILITY per WP:NSPORTS.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Nat Gertler (talk) 02:41, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

On your conflict of intereest
Mr. Garabedian: I wish you luck with your new team, and I welcome you as a new contributor to Wikipedia. However, as a new contributor, there are some policies and guidelines which you should become familiar with. I understand how, in your role with the team, you feel you should create a Wikipedia page for the team. However, Wikipedia has guidelines such as the one about conflicts of interest which heavily discourage this sort of editing. Your article at this point lacks any reference, much less ones that substantiate appropriate notability, and I'm likely to nominate the page for deletion in the next few days if such reference does not appear. This is not a personal thing, and would not prohibit a page from being created should the team ever generate notability. --Nat Gertler (talk) 05:08, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Response
I completely understand that. Please just give me a couple of days to gather sources and references and for me to read over some of the guidelines. I am in no way trying to create any kind of a hassle for you or Wikipedia. We are simply just trying to get our name out there. We are in the same league as the Rockford Foresters, which has a Wikipedia page, for the record. Please just give us a little time. Thanks!


 * I understand that you are trying to get your name out there. However, Wikipedia is not here for promotion. In addition, it's a poor form of promotion - people aren't likely to discover you here, they'll only pull up your page if they're looking for you - and worse yet, it's not under your control. Which would you rather have come up first on Google when people do choose to search for you: Your team website, facebook, or myspace page, where you control the content - or a Wikipedia page, where your message can be distorted by thousands of editors? --Nat Gertler (talk) 03:20, 19 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Honestly I agree with you but I'm just putting the page up because the owner of the club told me to do so. Having the page will provide quick information for people who are looking up the team.

Nomination of Will County CrackerJacks for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Will County CrackerJacks is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Will County CrackerJacks until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Nat Gertler (talk) 21:16, 21 April 2011 (UTC)