User talk:MikeyTheK/Temp

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Steel359
Steel I see that you deleted the page I was working on for Morfik for being blatant advertising. I would like to get further explanation, please. I believe that there are several facts surrounding that company that make its inclusion in Wikipedia important, namely: 1) Multiple patents pending regarding AJAX technology, which, if granted may have important implications for AJAX development, especially in regard to the cross-compilation of high-level languages. 2) Position as the first publicly available AJAX RAD/IDE, beating GWT and others to the punch. 3) Other innovations such as bookmarking and support for browser features such as back, forward, and refresh, which were also firsts for AJAX frameworks. 4) Other companies in this space such as TIBCO appear in Wikipedia.

Thank you for your consideration. MikeyTheK 15:12, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sensing some conflict of interest here. Recreate it, sticking closely to WP:NPOV and WP:V. If there are still problems, I'll submit it for the wider community to review. -- Steel 15:55, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, when you deleted the page, you also deleted all the work that went with it. So basically I'm going to have to recreate the page from scratch? Can we at least put it some place where I can recover SOME of the work I did on it? It took me about five hours each time I created it. Even emailed would suffice. MikeyTheK 03:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * You've caught me in a good mood, so I've restored it and added a few tags. Do read up on WP:ATT, WP:NPOV and WP:COI though. -- Steel 13:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I deeply, deeply, deeply appreciate it. Thanks for the advice on the articles to read. MikeyTheK 14:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Steel

It appears that the article has been deleted again, before I had a chance to do anything with it (I logged in this morning to work on it). Can you please tell me where I have to go to get it restored again? Thanks. MikeyTheK 16:14, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, it was on CSD, along with over 300 other articles last night. Tagged as A7, I deleted as G11. I suggest userfying. The article in its present state will get speedy tagged again, IMO. KillerChihuahua?!? 16:50, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I might AfD it to get a wider review (but mainly so it's no longer my problem). What do you think? I've never been a big fan of userfying, tbh. -- Steel 18:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If its to be undeleted, it will have to be userfied at this point. It will never pass Afd the way it is, IMO. Does this company pass WP:CORP? I saw no references, and the only two external links were to the company itself. I am asking MikeyTheK to join in this discussion also. KillerChihuahua?!? 10:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd be happy to get it userfied (I assume that means moving the source to my user page) just so I don't lose the work I've done...which is currently lost. The page was by no means complete.  It was a work in progress, but I only had a few hours at a time to work on it, so it will sit for days potentially between edit sessions.  After I'm done I'd be happy to submit it for review to see if it's fit for inclusion.MikeyTheK 21:35, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Steel, Can we please do something so I can start working on this again?  I don't mind having it userfied if that's what it will take to restore the work I already did on it.  Thanks. MikeyTheK 01:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry Mikey (I'd forgotten about this discussion up here and must have missed your message on the 29th). Anyway, I've moved the text over to User:MikeyTheK/Temp. -- Steel 13:09, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Steel, Thank you very much.  Do you mind so if I ask for you to review it when it's all done? MikeyTheK 14:18, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

KillerChihuahua
Killer, I see that you deleted the page I created on Morfik. The note I see states that it is "Tagged as A7 but it is G11"). I'm not sure what the tag means, but Steel359 originally deleted the article then restored it and asked me to work on it to ensure that it conforms with all policies.  I logged in this morning to work on it, when I saw that you deleted it.

Again, I don't understand what the rationale is, but I would ask you to restore it so that I can work on it and get it into compliance. As the article is already being monitored by another admin, I request that you let this process continue. If you have feedback on what should be done to improve the article, of course I welcome it. MikeyTheK 16:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The article was tagged as speedy deletion category A7 (see WP:CSD). A7 is Article/number 7, Unremarkable people, groups, companies and web content. G11 is General/number 11, Pages which exclusively promote a company, product, group, service or person and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. The article meets speedy criteria. I suggest you work on the article offline, or in your userspace, prior to attempting to load it again, as the speedy tag was almost immediately placed on the article after Steel359 undeleted it. I don't know why he deleted it as G11 three times and then undeleted it to Main (article) space instead of userfying for improvement, but the article as it is will be deleted again, by someone. Combined log shows three deletions, and five instances of a speedy tag being added. It doesn't matter if it is "being monitored by another admin", it does not meet criteria for inclusion and is speedyable. If you want Steel359 to userfy it for you, ask him to do so. If you do not understand the criteria on the CSD page, feel free to ask me and I will do my best to help. KillerChihuahua?!? 16:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Just reread this and realized I may sound terse, if so apologies. KillerChihuahua?!? 16:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to get all the help anybody's willing to offer. Since I created everything within Wikipedia I don't have the source anywhere, so if you could do something to help I'd appreciate it.  So basically if I have it set as a user page then I can work on it and resubmit it after it's all fixed?
 * MikeyTheK 18:08, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's what userfying is - developing an article in userspace, then the article is moved (not pasted) to article space. Steel359 and I are discussing this here on his talk page - please add your input there, thanks - KillerChihuahua?!? 10:28, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Killer, It appears that this discussion is losing steam between you and Steel.  Can you please do something to help me get it userfied so I can work on it again?  I am going to have time this weekend to work on it.  Thanks. MikeyTheK 01:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Killer, I also posted a message to Steel, and he took care of it. Thanks for the help.  Do you mind getting a request to review it when I'm done? MikeyTheK 14:17, 2 February 2007 (UTC)