User talk:MilborneOne/Archive 29

ROC POV pushing
Can you look over [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Xox21 these edits?] Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 10:53, 8 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Clearly disruptive but slow enough not block straight away I will leave a note but I need to take care in case further action is required. MilborneOne (talk) 11:25, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Phil M returns
See this contribution. Sigh. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 20:47, 8 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 08:47, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

He's back! - BilCat (talk) 12:00, 2 November 2016 (UTC) And again. - BilCat (talk) 16:34, 2 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks again. - BilCat (talk) 19:59, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm not certain about this one, but it's in the same IP range in the Philadelphia area. We'll see if he edits again. If he responds to the revert, his response will let us know if it's Phil or not. :) Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 13:59, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

And his response makes it clear it's Phil. :) - BilCat (talk) 14:05, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Found another one from a few days ago. Typical edit summary. - BilCat (talk) 17:57, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Here's another one! Sigh. - BilCat (talk) 01:58, 17 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks again, again. :) - BilCat (talk) 20:54, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Some people just don't get it!. 3 articles this time. - BilCat (talk) 00:45, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Another one! - BilCat (talk) 16:34, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yet another one.Nigel Ish (talk) 18:29, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Here's another one. - BilCat (talk) 17:37, 12 December 2016 (UTC)


 * And here. - BilCat (talk) 01:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

He's back!!! - BilCat (talk) 17:13, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Fonte de regaz returns
See Sockpuppet investigations/Fonte de regaz, and repeated vandalism on the page and elsewhere. Can you pull their plugs while the investigation is going on? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 08:46, 10 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Late again! somebody has already blocked them. MilborneOne (talk) 19:40, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Fleet Gallery Policy
Hi there! Just wanted to clarify why China Airlines is the only airline page, or one of the very few pages, to have the fleet gallery section removed. As far as I am concerned, pages for most major airlines still have the fleet gallery section. Shouldn't there be a consistency in policy? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaichinshih (talk • contribs) 19:41, 14 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Most have only recently been added and it takes time to remove them all, thanks for your interest. MilborneOne (talk) 21:51, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Vampire variants
Morning MilborneOne, I've just reread your comment on the DH100 and DH115 on the Project page. Seems a typo crept in, as DH113 was the Vampire NF, not Venom (DH112). Cheers,TSRL (talk) 10:41, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, sorry you are right. MilborneOne (talk) 14:21, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Air Pegasus
Hello, would you mind telling me where you found that the call sign for Air Pegasus is "PEGASUS"? I would like to find a source for this information for other airline articles. Thanks — Sunnya343&#9992; (háblame • my work) 17:14, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * User:Sunnya343 - If you search for "FAA Contractions" or "JO 7340.2E" you will find the American FAA document that list all the codes and callsigns. Its about six-months behind but is a reliable source for wikipedia. MilborneOne (talk) 17:19, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh ok thanks! I have always been looking for a source for ICAO codes. — Sunnya343&#9992; (háblame • my work) 18:36, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Super King Air accidents
The edit you reverted (this one ) was indeed a copy and paste, from the lead of 2004 Hendrick Motorsports aircraft crash. As the accident is notable enough for its own article, I'm going to re-add it to the Super King Air article. Sario528 (talk) 20:28, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree. I assume you'll also cite the sources directly,and link to the crash article? - BilCat (talk) 20:33, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Oops, linking to the article should suffice in place of sources in this type of section, unless some extraordinary claim is made. - BilCat (talk) 20:39, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅ I tried to keep the entry succinct, and linked over to the main article. Sario528 (talk) 20:44, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Rewrite Request
Hi MilborneOne, you conducted a rewrite of this page some years ago -I have submitted an update for review by an administrator and wondered if you'd be so kind as to assist. Talk:VistaJet I'd appreciate if you'd point me in the right direction if this isn't convenient. RnK13 (talk) 10:00, 18 October 2016 (UTC)


 * If I get time I will have a look, it needs some work as the new material still has a some marketing talk in it. MilborneOne (talk) 17:03, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Request for placing explanation of edit block on Boeing C-17 Globemaster III article
Hi Milbourne,

I was just at the Boeing C-17 Globemaster III article, where you recently "edit protected" that page due to a certain edit war that was apparently going on there. It took me some time to realize why I couldn't edit there, as there was no "edit protection template" displaying anywhere on that article, explaining this "edit protection," its duration, or its rationalle. Isn't there some sort of a template notice that is normally placed on such a page when such an edit lock has been made? Never seen this before here. Thanks, Scott P. (talk) 18:20, 23 October 2016 (UTC)


 * The edit protected icon is normally added to the page by a bot so I dont known why it didnt, the block has expired now but the related edits that lead to the block could be seen in the history. MilborneOne (talk) 16:09, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

User talk:Rengab
See User talk:Rengab, which should explain the issue. Also, I forgot to tick "no redirect" when I moved the article to Draftspace, and have tagged it for CSD. Could you check to see if Vulcanair Mission has been deleted yet? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 08:14, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I don't know if the user intends to finish the draft, or even if it should become a mainspace article. There isn't much on the web about it, but it's more than some of our never-produced aircraft articles have. - BilCat (talk) 08:59, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


 * BilCat - Had a tidy up and moved it back as a stub - still needs more work. MilborneOne (talk) 10:01, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. I didn't have time to do a rewrite myself, or I would have done that instead of putting it in draftspace. I'll take a crack at doing more work on it later today/tonight. The source you added should be sufficient to let the article survive an AFD. Thanks again. - BilCat (talk) 11:20, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

User:ChrisJTP


Hello MilborneOne,

Could you take a quick look into this user's edits? They are constantly adding codeshare routes for American Airlines into destination tables across several airport articles, and then proceeding to use American Airlines' booking engine as a source. Obviously, adding codeshare routes is not allowed per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT; as I had given them a bold, but not overly harsh warning (I was using a different IP address at the time) and they have since continued this behavior after being warned. They were also warned twice by HkCaGu as well. If you could keep an eye on this user and/or block them, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. 172.56.38.167 (talk) 04:44, 29 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Left them a message to make sure they understand they will be blocked next time. MilborneOne (talk) 08:59, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

IP vandal/hoaxer
See here for the apparent same hoaxer/vandal that you blocked here. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 08:47, 29 October 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅ blocked MilborneOne (talk) 08:51, 29 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that was fast! - BilCat (talk) 08:54, 29 October 2016 (UTC)


 * It was not planned Bill, I have only just logged on! MilborneOne (talk) 09:01, 29 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I realize that, I wasn't sure when you would log on on a Saturday,  but I'm glad you were on. That IP is annoying! - BilCat (talk) 09:15, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

And another one here. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 16:25, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Boeing 777X move
See WP:RPP. The same user moved it in September also. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 12:44, 30 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes noticed the move (and I did create Boeing 777-8 and 777-8 as redirects to 777-X). MilborneOne (talk) 12:47, 30 October 2016 (UTC)


 * It's been move-protected now. - BilCat (talk) 17:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Interview invitation from a Wikipedia researcher in University of Minnesota
Hello MilborneOne,

I am Bowen Yu, a Ph.D. student from GroupLens Research at the University of Minnesota - Twin Cities. Currently, we are undertaking a study about turnover (editors leaving and joining) in WikiProjects within Wikipedia. We are trying to understand the effects of member turnovers in the WikiProject group, in terms of the group performance and member interaction, with a purpose of learning how to build successful online communities in future. More details about our project can be found on this meta-wiki page.

I would like to invite you for an interview if you are interested in our study and willing to share your experience with us. The interview will be about 30 - 45 minutes via either Skype or Google Hangout. You will receive a $10 gift card as compensation afterwards.

Please reach me at bowen@cs.umn.edu if you are interested or have any questions.

Thank you, Bowen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobo.03 (talk • contribs) 06:35, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Hunter Marine sailboats
Hi Michael: I have been working on some sailboat class articles recently and have created many new articles. I just tried to start three new boat articles and discovered that they are blacklisted for some unstated reason. The note on the pages said any admin can create them. Any idea what the history is here and can you create the pages, so I can write the articles?


 * Hunter 32
 * Hunter 306
 * Hunter 356

- Ahunt (talk) 19:20, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Ahunt - They match a pattern that has been used for page move or other vandalism in the past, do you have something I can use like a draft that can be used so I dont create blank pages! MilborneOne (talk) 20:18, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah, okay, I'll write them in sandbox space then and drop you a note when they are done and you can move them. I have refs and photos for all three. - Ahunt (talk) 20:20, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


 * All ready to move now:


 * User:Ahunt/sandbox1 can be moved to Hunter 32 Vision.
 * Hunter 32 should be a redirect to Hunter 32 Vision.
 * User talk:Ahunt/sandbox1 can be moved to Talk:Hunter 32 Vision
 * User:Ahunt/sandbox2 can be moved to Hunter 306.
 * User talk:Ahunt/sandbox2 can be moved to Talk:Hunter 306
 * User:Ahunt/sandbox3 can be moved to Hunter 356.
 * User talk:Ahunt/sandbox3 can be moved to Talk:Hunter 356


 * Thanks for your help with all this. - Ahunt (talk) 01:15, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

✅ MilborneOne (talk) 15:26, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! Those are all the Hunter Marine boat articles I have planned for now, so hopefully I won't have to impose on you again too soon! - Ahunt (talk) 15:33, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Austral Líneas Aéreas Flight 2553
Hello MilborneOne. Can you please take a look at the article? An IP keeps adding unsourced information and registered user support it by accepting the pending changes, even when no inline citations were added. Thanks.--Jetstreamer $Talk$ 17:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Understood it now has a ref improved tag on it but the IP clearly has the source so should add the relevant citations at least at paragraph level. Perhaps we need to see if the IP comes back and adds the required citations if not after a reasonable time all the unsourced stuff could be removed. MilborneOne (talk) 17:20, 7 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Forgive me for butting in here. I was the ed who accepted the edit the first time, and I added the refimprove. As far as I can tell, the source used by the IP was the actual report, which is linked to in External links. Yes, it's a primary, so if an editor can find a secondary, that would improve things. ... richi (hello) 18:20, 7 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks User:richi I appreciate he may have used the actual report but it is not clear without adding some online citations, anybody reading the article would not know where the information came from. They list the report page numbers in the edit summary so it wouldnt take them much to just add that to the text. I have left a note on the users page and if they dont know how they can ask at the article talk page for help. MilborneOne (talk) 18:27, 7 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I'd do it myself, except my Spanish isn't good enough. But I believe User:Jetstreamer speaks Spanish, so perhaps that editor could help V the three page numbers given by the IP? ... richi (hello) 18:46, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Let me see what I can do regarding the introduced text. Honestly, what really bothers me is the addition of text with nothing more than a brief edit summary from which one is supposed to guess where it is coming from. I believe anyone editing Wikipedia should be aware of WP:BURDEN.--Jetstreamer $Talk$ 19:46, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Cold feet
I'm not sure what it's about, or who the master is, but see here. Quite strange. - BilCat (talk) 06:19, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hello!
Would you like to provide your input at this discussion regarding references and the Airlines and destinations tables? Thank you! — Sunnya343&#9992; (háblame • my work) 22:39, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Memory test
Hi. I was wondering if you recall your source(s) for this edit to Walter Baxter. It was from April 2015, so I certainly understand if you don't remember. When I wrote the article, I consulted every possible online source I could find, and I never came across any of what you added. I couldn't even find his exact date of birth. Thanks for adding the information, and I'm very curious where you managed to find it, M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:35, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Mandarax I probably got it from the General Register Office Death Index which gives his date of birth (Walter Baxter died 1994 Q3 in Marlborough death registered in July 1994 and date of birth given as 17 May 1915) MilborneOne (talk) 17:35, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:38, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

A new user right for New Page Patrollers
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FYI
Hello, this is just to let you know that I had to undo your edit here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Air_transports_of_heads_of_state_and_government&diff=prev&oldid=750243006 I'm Romanian and I follow this subject, and as said, with all due respect, your edit was unsourced, and I know from the Romanian press that there is no such thing as an "official" / "presidential" aircraft. The prime-minister one year ago leased a private aircraft, but more recently he flew Tarom regular flights (even Ryanair) in normal class. Since Tarom recently retired the last two Airbus A310, this is indeed extremely problematic. Thanks! --Vlad|-> 15:58, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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Warning?
Kindly dont send me such messages for simply posting a word like lazy, different if I abused you or something. 139.190.175.128 (talk) 08:41, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Equipment of Singapore vandalism
Milb1, multiple IPs, presumably the same person, have been vandalizing these articles by adding fictional/hoaxish equipment: Equipment of the Republic of Singapore Air Force, Equipment of the Republic of Singapore Navy, and Equipment of the Singaporean Army. Some of it has apparently been happening for a month or more. Could you look at semi-protecting these articles for a few weeks? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 07:14, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 16:32, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

List of Mayday episodes
There is a user, Dkendel, making nonconstructive edits or edits there are no consensus for. Can you please have a word with them? Thanks....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:35, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I have seen you reported it to AN3, I will wait and see if somebody responds at that board rather than do someting while that is open. MilborneOne (talk) 20:05, 1 December 2016 (UTC)s


 * Nothing has happened at AN3. I also started an ANI thread here because there is more going on here than just edit warring....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 01:49, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

This is odd
See here. I dropped a good-faith note on his page, wondering if the account might have been hacked, but it was deleted without comment. It's evidently related to my comments Talk:South Vietnam Air Force. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Strange behaviour, watching. MilborneOne (talk) 20:10, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

List of active United States military aircraft
Milb1, could you look at semi-protecting List of active United States military aircraft for a few days? A user on multiple IPs keeps making changes, even after I provided a direct source for what he was changing. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 05:17, 7 December 2016 (UTC)


 * OK semi for a week to encourage discussion. MilborneOne (talk) 14:47, 7 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Just to note that the new Flight "World Air Forces 2017" is available to download this week. MilborneOne (talk) 14:47, 7 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I did cite WAF 2017 for my change, but I haven't gone through all the other aircraft yet. - BilCat (talk) 16:02, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
Happy Holidays text.png Hello MilborneOne: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 15:30, 18 December 2016 (UTC)


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Merry Christmas!
Happy Holidays text.png Hello MilborneOne: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers,  Class 455 ( Merry Christmas! ) 17:23, 18 December 2016 (UTC)


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List of active Indian military aircraft - moves
User:Yogesh D Churi has moved List of active Indian military aircraft to List of active Indian military aircraft with images and then List of active Indian military aircraft without images with some unpleasant edit summaries {"Their highness keep removing images citing their royal consensus.(to hell with views of indians like me)" - the article seems to need more admin attention.Nigel Ish (talk) 18:21, 18 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry I missed all that, I removed the protection in good faith as it was stopping other editors improving the article I didnt expect a tirade of abuse, clearly doesnt understand how we work. MilborneOne (talk) 08:35, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Kaman K-1125
Milb1, could you check this revert and the previous ones? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 05:13, 24 December 2016 (UTC)


 * OK noted, wait to see what they do next, I may need to explain although the facts are not copyrightable if they are in an iffy source we dont know if they are correct. MilborneOne (talk) 09:11, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!
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User:Theeasytarget and their comments while blocked
MilborneOne, don't you think this behaviour deserves an extension of the block? The user is blatantly sayig they will keep warring and disrupting Wikipedia after the block is over.--Jetstreamer $Talk$ 15:59, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes you are right as it is becoming clear that the user is not here to build an encyclopedia, I will have a look at extending the block. MilborneOne (talk) 16:46, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Indefinite not hear to build an encyclopedia block, clearly with the latest comments on the talk page the user does not want to discuss the issues but continues to call for disruption, they can appeal if they have a change of heart. Shame really all they needed to do is start a polite discussion on the Iran Air talk page and work through the issues with other editors. MilborneOne (talk) 16:58, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, MilborneOne!


Happy New Year! MilborneOne, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. TSRL (talk) 20:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)


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