User talk:Mindspillage/2005archive7

Soda Pop
Just curious, do you drink soda? If so, what's your favorite brand? Andrew P Lin 05:46, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Transwiki goof on Ronald Reagan article
I was sifting through the Wikiquote transwiki system when I found myself wondering whatever happened to the WP article "Reactions by world leaders to the death of Ronald Reagan" that looked like it was going to be transwikied over. Checking Votes for deletion/Reactions by world leaders to the death of Ronald Reagan, I found that it supposedly been transwikied, then deleted, with you signing the closure statement. But no transwiki log entry appeared on either WP or WQ, and there was no "Transwiki:Reactions by world leaders to the death of Ronald Reagan" article, or anything in transwiki space, on WQ. I had to do some digging to find that there is an article, "Tributes by world leaders on the death of Ronald Reagan", that appears to be the transwiki version of this article.

Do you know anything about how this happened? I have a real concern about this kind of stealth transwiki, which doesn't come close to following policy. (The only thing that appears to have been done correctly was the edit history, which even by policy is ambiguous, given the usual lack of timezone data and explicit user disambiguation.) I specifically said I'd be watching for this, so I could Wikiquotify it as it came over, but that whole step was bypassed. I realize that transwiki is a cumbersome process, but I don't see the point of having a policy if it's just going to be ignored. I'd like to understand how this happened so I know better what to do about it the next time it comes up. Thanks for any insight you can provide. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:08, 2 August 2005 (UTC)


 * … Should this come up in the future, a simple reminder of the error to the person at fault would suffice; such things are usually oversights rather than deliberate breach of policy. Thanks, Mindspillage (spill yours?) 23:45, 2 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Sorry about my brusqueness. I really didn't mean to bite your head off about it. Apparently the WP VfD&rarr;transwiki process is more complicated than I'd realized; I still don't know who is "at fault" here. Clearly just watching the log isn't sufficient, and I'll have to do more reading to find the places to watch. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:54, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

John Philip Sousa media
If I'm not mistaken you added the sound files to this article. The media links seem to be dead. Any clue what happened? Mirror Vax 22:06, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Neutral Wikipedia?
Dear Wikipedia administrator

I am writting you about the issue of Macedonia, Republic of Macedonia, Macedonian Slavs (like Wikipedia calls the Macedonians) and the problem between Macedonia and Greece about the term Macedonia. I am aware that this issue is largely discussed here, at Wikipedia, and Wikipedia claims that it is trying to take a neutral side. But, that is not the case. Wikipedia is everything except neutral in this question. In the following lines I will explain you why.

From the text in Wikipedia most of the people will conclude that Macedonian nation appeared during the World War 2 and Tito was the one who 'invented' us. The family of my wife (she is Mexican) read this and asked me is it truth. That was actually the first time I read what Wikipedia says about my nation, which was a direct reason for my reaction. My grandfather is born in 1911th. Yesterday I had a talk with him. He took a part in the strugle for independence since 1925th and he took a part in the 2nd world war. He is alive and personal prove that Wikipedia is full of bullshit and lies about our origin. He spent half of his life proving and fighting for that. He was shot 3 times, all 3 from the Bulgarians who wanted to ocupy Macedonia in the Balkan wars and in the WW1 and WW2. Just a 1 min with him will show you how many lies you suport in Wikipedia.

I tried to edit some of the text few days ago, but everithing I wrote was deleted. And all I wrote were facts. Fact 1. Macedonians (or Macedonian Slavs, like ONLY Wikipedia, Greece and Cyprus calls us) is the only nation of many living in the area concentrated inside the borders of the geographical region of Macedonia. This is a pure fact, something that you can even find on the CIA web page. Can you give any fact to deny my fact? If you can not, why you erased it from Wikipedia? Fact 2. Republic of Macedonia has diplomatic relations with about 150 countries in the world. Wikipedia says that "at least 20" countries recognize Macedonia under the name Macedonia. Guess what? That number is more than 100. And this is an officially confirmed by our ministery for foreighn affairs. Fact 3. Wikipedia says that my country Contraversialy calls itself Republic of Macedonia. This is a pure example of taking a side in the problem. Why you don't say that Greece contraversialy deny us the use of the name Macedonia? If you intended to be neutral, just write that we have the naming problem with Greece, but do not call my name "contraversial"!!! Fact 4. While explaining about the antient Macedonia, its kings etc. you highly support the claim for their Greek origin. I can give you 1000s of facts that that is not truth and I beleive that some Greek guy can give you 1000s facts that those claims are truth. That was 2400 years ago and there is no chanse for us to know the real situation. We can only guess. But, when you give the Greek suported version, why you ignore the version suported by the newaged Macedonians? In this moment I can give you 10 names of internationally respected scientist supporting our theory. If you are neutral, why you ignore it? Fact 5. Wikipedia says that the Turkish Empire were calling us Bulgarians. Strange, because the Turks were recognizing the uniqueness of our nation since the moment they occupied the teritory of Macedonia. Actually, the Turkish history archives are the biggest prove of our existance, history and culture. Did anyone of you ever read anything from those archives? Even on the birth certificate of Khemal Ataturk says that he is born in Bitola, Macedonia. And his autobiography is full of memories of his childhood spend with the Macedonians. Fact 6. Wikipedia ignores the egsodus of the Macedonian people from Greece and says they were running because they were supporters of the comunists. 1/3 of the Macedonians have origin from this part of Macedonia. They were runned away from there by force and you can find many historical proves for that. Again, big part of my family has origin from there. As a matter of fact, my grand-grand father was married to a Greek woman, my grand-grand mother. But, no matter of that, his house was burned and he was forced to run away for his life and the life of his family. How dare you deny this? Do you know that even today my grand father is not allowed to visit Greece, because he was a kid when his family runned away from there? Fact 7. There are about 500 000 Macedonians that live outside Macedonia, mostly in Canada, Australia, USA, Sweden etc. At least 1/3 moved there before 1930s. If we were a product of Tito, how can you explain that even they feel of Macedonian nationality? I have a family in USA which moved there in 1927th. Their ancestors (my cousins) do not even know how to talk Macedonian well. But, they still feel Macedonian. One of them is even one of the financiers of the party of the Macedonians in Bulgaria, trying to help their strugle to keep their national identity. I repeat, first time he visited Macedonia was in 1995th, far after Tito. And his family moved in USA in 1927th, far before Tito. Fact 8. Wikipedia claims that the book of Macedonian songs by Dimitar Miladinov is actually Bulgarian. Have you maybe seen a original copy of the book, printed in Croatia? IT says clearly "Macedonian". Not to mention that the same author wrote one of the most important books in the Macedonian history "For the Macedonian issues", again printed in Croatia, where it clearly talks about the Macedonian nation and non-Bulgarian origin.

All this was simply erased from the database. I didn't erase anything when editing these pages, I support the other side and I do not want to hide their facts. But why Wikipedia wants to hide our facts, which show that we are not a product of Tito's ambitions for the Aegean Sea. In Tito's time, the Yugoslav army was far superior in the region. If he wanted the Aegean Sea, he would get it very easily.

Many things in Wikipedia are very offensive for the nowdays Macedonians. Wikipedia simply ignores us, gives us a new name and supports the theories of denial of our existance, culture and history.

I will try to give you an example that includes with Mexico. I beleive that you know that the Maya civilisation was invaded by the Spanish kingdom. Spanish were ruling Mexico for centuries and millions of Spanish people moved at Mexican teritory. Later, after the liberation war, Mexicans formed its own country. Fact 1. Mayas were living in Mexico (same as Antique Macedonians). Fact 2. Spanish invaded them and great number of Spanish people moved to Mexico (The Slavs moved on the theritory of Macedonia and there was no reported fights or movements of people away from the teritory where the Slavs settled). Fact 3. Nowdays, everyone of the Mexican is aware that they are partly Spanish, but they still have Mayan origin (Wikipedia says that the people living in Republic of Macedonia are Slavs. When there was no reported resetling of the Antique Macedonians, how is possible they not to mix with the Slavs? It is a fact that the nowdays Macedonians are not same as the Antique Macedonians, but they certanly have a significant part of their genes. Same as I beleive that Greece has a part of their Genes, but they are definitly not their direct ancestors). Fact 4. Mexican speak Spanish. Reason: The Spanish culture was superior in that time. (The Antique Macedonians accepted the Helenic culture, including a variation of the Greek language. Reason: the Helenic culture was superior in that time. Everyone who knows at least little history will know that Hellenic and Greek are not synonims. Greek is nation, Hellenic is religion/culture. USA and England both speak English, both are mostly cristians, but they are SEPARATE nations. Aren't they? Same happens to Germany and Austria, or Serbia and Croatia, or Canada and France, or Brazil and Portugal, or the rest of Latin America and Spain)

And here is a comment about the claims of the Bulgarians, that the Macedonians are actually Bulgarians. If that is truth, I am going to kill myself. Bulgarians through the history made the worst for my nation. During the strugle of the Macedonian people for independence from the Turkish empire, at the end of the 19th and begginbing of the 20th century, the Bulgarians were the ones who killed the most of our revolutionaries, including 4 members of my close family which were members of the Macedonian revolutionary organization (VMRO). Whis is not something that I was told by Tito. My grandfather (the same grandfather from above) was in fact a member of the same organization. He personaly knew many of the revolutioners that Bulgarians claim are theirs, including 2 of the leaders: Goce Delcev and Gorce Petrov. They were Macedonians and they all gave their lives for free and independent Macedonia and they had nothing to do with Bulgaria. There was a part of them who were Bulgarians inserted in the organizations, who were actually the killers of the real Macedonian revolutioners, because it was in Bulgarian interest to weaken the organization, so they could take the lead in the organization and later put Macedonia in the hands of the Bulgarians. Thanks god, they did not succeed. Wikipedia claims that VMRO was pro-Bulgarian and the revolutioners were Bulgarian fighters. You suposed to see the face of my 94 year old grandfather when I told him your claims. Neurtal Wikipedia? I do not think so.

At the end I have to ask for Wikipedia NOT TO TAKE A SIDE IN THIS. I am not asking to remove the Greek and Bulgarian side of the story. But, why you ignore our claims, which are suported by many non-Greek and non-Bulgarian scientists and very largely through the web. There are just about 2-2.5 million Macedonians around the world. We do not have enought influence and strenght as Greece has, which is much more powerful and richer country than Macedonia. The Macedonian-Greek question is too hard and too complicated to solve. History can be interpreted in 1000 ways, especially on a teritory like the Balcany, where there are so many nations on so little space. Fortunately, DNA testings are getting more and more reliable and soon it will be possible to be used to acuratelly show the origin of our nations. I hope that then the denyal of me, my history, culture and existance will finaly stop. It is very disapointing that Wikipedia takes a part in all that.

With all the respect, Igor Šterbinski Skopje, Macedonia is@on.net.mk

kmccoy's RFA
Hi, mindspillage,

Thanks for your nomination and support on my RFA. I've left you a gift on your user page. :)

kmccoy (talk) 03:54, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Jtkiefer's RFA
Kat, thanks for your support of my RFA, even though it didn't succeed I'm not going to let this deter me from being the best editor I can be and eventually I will try again. Jtkiefer T - 05:07, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

vandalism
Hey, thx for reverting the vandalism to my user page; I'm so proud: it was the first, although it was a bit childish (but beats me, I'm not sure I would have noticed); so after deliberate attempts to throw semicola (that would be the plural form used in Germany) around...have a nice day ;) (and another one) Lectonar 11:03, 3 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the compliment (blushing right now), but as you might have noticed, they're almost exclusively roman languages; once you've got the grasp of two or more, the rest is kind of easy... Lectonar 13:27, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Hello, I just wanted to stop by and say thanks for devandalizing my userpage! Y0u (Y0ur talk page) (Y0ur contributions) 17:53, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

I live in DeLand Too
An irrelevant detail, I live in DeLand too. User:Yeltensic42.618 21:50 (ETS), 4 August, 2005

Revert
Thanks for the revert on my talk. Howabout1 Talk to me! 03:12, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
Thank you for supporting my recent RfA. I was surprised and humbled by the number of positives votes. I'll be monitoring RfA regularly from now on and will look for a chance to "pay it forward". Cheers, --MarkSweep 01:39, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

What do I do with this article?
Can you take a look at Desert planets and advise me what to do with it? It is interesting, but it is a mixture of fiction and speculation. I don't know whether to VFD it or wikify it. RJFJR 02:18, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Further question: Should it be moved to Desert planets in fiction ? RJFJR 13:50, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Someone put it up for VFD. It's being discussed. (FYI). RJFJR 00:58, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Rampant plagiarism
I'm stealing your Umberto Eco quote, not least because Foucault's Pendulum hit it so squarely on the head when it said 'when I grew up I found that all the books I was going to write had already been written.' You remind me of all the band girls and geeks I ever grew up with; as such I wish you all the best. - jowfair 7 august 2005

RfA
Thank you for supporting my RfA. I will do my best to serve the Wikipedia community as an administrator. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 20:35, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Ha, ha
But Mindspillage, he called me a sexy man, surely we can cut him some slack.... ;-) Func( t, c ) 02:37, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Dear Sir.
Please be my friend. I'm so lonely and sad. :'( Also, if my actions have made me a vandal, then I don't want to be the Holy Roman Empire! Good day to you, Sir!

Thank you!!
That is one weird edit immediately above. :) That having been said, how do I possibly begin to thank you for all your support?  Your support, your kindness and friendship mean more than I can express.  So, may I begin with a thoroughly inadequate "thank you?" - Lucky 6.9 04:05, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Func's RfA :)
Mindspillage, you have A Beautiful Mind. :) Thank you so much for your support, and an ever bigger thanks for your wiki-friendship, (and the biggest thanks for a conversation we had in irc).

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make. Thank you! :)

P.S. I can think of far worst things in life than being teased by you until the end of time! :)

Func( t, c, e, ) 17:56, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Doppelganger
I have a fan! Thanks for helping out in my absence. -- Francs2000 | Talk 20:36, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for the support on my adminship nomination. I considered adding a long, rambling footnote to the bottom, but then thought I wouldn't be able to get all the sentences sounding authentic. I'm honoured to join Wikipedia's Finest, and be sure to tell me if I ever am issuing anyone a case of the Howling Fantods. Cheers, Slac speak up!  22:03, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support on my recent RFA. Please let me know if I can help with any particular administrative responsibilities, or if you have any problems with the way I use the admin tools. Cheers. --BaronLarf 15:24, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

Nihelartikel
Wow, that's really interesting! I'd never heard about that, and I'll look it up as soon as I get home from work. It's my last day before a week of vacation ... planning to do some composing. Oh, and this may be a non-sequitur to anyone else reading this, but if heaven is anything like the traditional conception, can you imagine the torment of keeping all those harps in tune? And do they use equal temperament ... ? Antandrus  (talk) 15:16, 12 August 2005 (UTC)


 * AHA! That clarifies everything!  Read the article "Spoof" in the New-New Grove (online).  Hope you are having a great weekend!  Antandrus  (talk) 17:23, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
I appreciate your reversion of vandalism to my page...much appreciated...have a good one!--MONGO 03:17, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Also wanted to mention that I see you are a 1RR person..have you considered joining this: Harmonious editing club...not that you need to, but worth a look. Thanks again.--MONGO 04:50, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your message, guess I just couldn't stay away. :) Rje 23:57, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Fernando Rizo's RfA
Kat, thanks for lending me your support for my recent RfA. I'll do my best to earn it as an admin. Fernando Rizo T/C 19:06, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Featured Article!


WAAAAAAAA!!! Redwolf24 03:34, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
For the welcome, the compliment and the tips. I shall take all of them to heart. I'm learning the ropes pretty fast, but I've got a long way to go. The coding is a bit counterintuitive, since I am so used to html. Hobbes000 21:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I'd be happy to be a janitor!
Thanks for thinking of me. I've been wanting to clean up the backlog on WP:CP... JesseW 02:04, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Just showing off my new sig. JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:16, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Islam in India
Hey Kat, thank you for my flower! And for the kind words and the visit to my talk page. You must come more often. I'll make tea next time if you give me some notice. As for Islam in India, I left a (lonely) comment on the talk page about the external link, which seems okay to me, though not ideal. Let me know what you think. SlimVirgin (talk) 02:52, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

HappyCamper's RFA - Thanks for your support!
Hi Mindspillage! Thanks for your support on my recent RFA. I'm now an administrator, and I wanted to come by and thank you for your kind words - it was really nice to read someone write: Helpful, knowledgeable, has a good attitude - If you ever need a helping hand, let me know, and I'll do my best to help out. Thanks again for your support, and I'll see you around the Wiki! --HappyCamper 12:03, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Judi McLeod etc
An anonymous IP editor made the initial contribution to Paul Fromm. I imported that info to the CFP and Judi McLeod articles when I tried to rewrite them from the point-form contributions someone had made into genuine articles. I've tried to contact the original contributor and asked him/her to provide a source. If that isn't done then I agree the material shouldn't be included and, in fact, it has been removed pending verifiecation. Homey 13:11, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Want to be quoted in the Signpost?
You were part of the discussion for moving VfD to PfD. I would appreciate any comments that you might have about the process...if you're interested, please leave a note in the appropriate section on User:Ral315/Signpost. ral 315  01:02, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You
This is an archive of my talk page from August 2005. Please add new messages to my current page. This is an archive of my talk page from August 2005. To leave a new message, please use my current page.

And Congrats
Congratulations on Rebecca Clarke reaching the main page. I think that's going to be the only violist on the main page for the history of Wikipedia ;). Good job. Cheers, Bratsche talk  5 pillars 15:29, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza
Hello, I'm trying to show some people off my friends list a new society, somewhat similar to WP:KC, Esperanza. Its still in its early stages but nonetheless I'd appreciate it were you to join. R e  dwolf24  (talk) 06:27, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

message from Dave George
Hi. I'm not sure why the user decided to contact you instead of contacting me directly on my talk page. You may wish to point out to him that his IP address is recorded in the history of the article and is easily visible to all Wikipedia users. As I'm sure you know, it's generally considered impolite to leave unsigned messages on Wikipedia. If the user wishes more anonymity, perhaps he should consider registering for an account. Pburka 04:16, August 29, 2005 (UTC)hi my name is rachel nadas